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welcome back to harbor on box don't you're all having a nice relaxing weekend by myself having a fairly relaxed weekend although I just couldn't help myself I thought we haven't done a build for a while so be 450 boards coming out next week probably a good time to do a build video actually speaking of the be 450 motherboards they weren't meant to be available to the public till the 31st of July but for some reason some retailers started selling them last week so not sure what's going on there has to be said quite an odd release from AMD this one so while you could technically buy one right now and test it out for yourself and we are bound by multiple NDA's and can't show you a single benchmark I can't talk about vrm thermals or anything like that so this is mostly just a build video that said I'll be using the arisin 720 700 on MSI's newbie 450 tomahawk motherboard and we'll be calling it with the new deep cool Castle 240 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler and I will provide some CPU thermal results so it won't be just a system build also along for the riders MSI's new Radeon rx 580 MEK 2 8 gigabyte OC graphics card so we can also check out how that performs in terms of thermals as well all this new hardware will be going inside the new MSI magpie lon ATX case and yes this is a very MSI themed build but no it hasn't been sponsored by MSI if I had sponsored this video we would certainly make that clear accompanying all the new MSI hardware is aiders xpg spectryx d41 RGB memory and we have for 8 gigabyte ddr4 3600 sticks then for the boot drive we have the a data xpg gamax s11 480 gigabyte nvme SSD so some seriously nice hardware there from a data finally powering everything is the C Sonic focus gold 650 watt power supply which will provide this build with more than enough juice ok so enough chitchat I reckon it's about time to you're a smooth tune and get building okay so that'll went very smoothly MSI's pylons very easy to work with and I think with that a data xpg memory and the deep cool castle all in one liquid cooler in there I think were those two it looks a bit special but what about the temperatures you say well the msi pollen does leave a little to be desired when it comes to thermals now thankfully with some minor tweaks that you may have noticed already and you can improve things quite dramatically which I suppose is both good and very disappointing at the same time but we'll get to that in a moment for testing I left everything pretty much as a sort in the video but I did replace the two fans here with the two that I put up here because they're meant to go on the castle 240 millimeter radiator so those fans were then put up here so the top and the rear so that's all I did there so we could actually test the castle with the intended fans this did create a bit of a mismatch with the fans on the further case which didn't look particularly nice so I've changed that back and it didn't actually impact performance much anyway you can adjust the rpm of all these fans so overall it was very similar anyway with this configuration be Verizon 7 and 2700 hit 63 degrees under full load in our our along a blender stress test which is pretty similar to what we see with the box cool on an open testbed so it wasn't particularly impressed with those results having said that though the castle isn't to blame here as you'll see you soon yeah not the only one liquid coolers fault then playing battlefield one we saw the CPU hit 49 degrees which isn't actually too bad and the msi radeon RX 580 mac - that peaked at 81 degrees which is pretty warm even for an RX 580 so you know a great temperature there for the graphics card though I should note the operating volume wasn't that bad unfortunately I can't give you any scientific measurements because it's the weekend and it's not particularly quiet in my house anyway those temperatures didn't impress me at all I was honestly expecting much better results out of this system I remember the rise in seven 2700 processor isn't even overclocked something I know just straight away when I unboxed the pile on PC and then again when I was building in it was the very limited gap that was here you can see it's been slightly modified now compared to the footage you probably saw earlier though it might be difficult to see it from this angle anyway the gap at the front was extremely small and very restrictive and basically when you have such a small gap on a solid front panel pushed up right against three 120 millimeter fans they don't like that it completely kills their efficiency and limits their ability to draw cool air into the case to then cool down everything in there now if I haven't mentioned it yet the gap was just six millimeters so I couldn't even fit my pinky finger in the gap as it was out of the box that being the case I decided to retest do everything all over again but this time with the glass front panel completely removed so we just had the dust filter on the front of the case and I was expecting to see some noteworthy gains I mean we've got three 120 millimeter fans I was expecting to see the operating temperatures of the CPU and GPU dropped a bit I wasn't expecting them to drop by quite as much as they did and the idle temperature alone that was dropped by seven degrees which is that's a fairly decent drop right there but it was nothing like what we saw under load the horizon 720 700 in the hour long blender workload saw the peak temperature dropped by 22 degrees so 22 degrees knocked off the low temperature in a room with an ambient air temperature of 21 degrees in battlefield one the CPU temperature was also reduced by 19 degrees this time and the RX 580 saw a 6 degree drop taking it down to a much more reasonable 75 degrees these are obviously exceptional gains and if I owned the pylon I saw this information I would probably just decide to run it without the glass front panel on it all because I can't imagine why you want your CPU to run 22 or 20 degrees hotter than it actually needs to anyway the good news is you don't actually have to ditch the nice glass panel you just have to increase the clearance so do a little bit of modding so I dug out some old CPU cooling gear I had a couple of standoffs that are a bit taller so I screwed them in add some rubber washers and then put these giant thumb screw thing on the front which I wouldn't recommend going with for sort of a permanent setup but for the purposes of doing this test and extending that six millimeter gap to 18 millimeters they serve the purpose just fine regardless of whether my little modification makes the case look worse or not it's not really important here what is important is that it didn't make the thermals any worse in fact it dramatically improved things incredibly when compared to having no glass front panel at all so the the improved results that we just spoke of so no glass panel at all adding the glass panel back but increasing they get with my modification so the CPU load temperature in the blender our long workload increased by just four degrees and then the Radeon rx 580 that increased by just a single degree again over not having the glass panel at all so yeah with my modification just a single degree was added to the graphics card so impressive stuff there and it means my dinky little modification that took me about I don't know 30 seconds maybe 60 seconds to what the longest part was firing the bits anyway that reduced the CPU load temperature by almost 30% and it reduced the load temperature of the GPU by about 6 percent so the pylon was now cooler and quieter so well worth tripling the size of the gap at the front of the case here whether it looks better or worse in my opinion it really doesn't make much difference at all it's a bit disappointing that MSI dropped the ball so badly here it would have been an innovative feature or something and that you don't really see that often if they had a thought to add some different sized standoffs and various sizes maybe you could go six millimeters which was the stand and 12 millimeters 18 maybe over 20 I don't know or maybe adjustable standoff so just one set of stand ups that can slide the glass panel in and out that'll be pretty cool and it'll be something that I don't think anyone else offers so you'd be able to customize the look and the amount of airflow that you can get in the case depending on what component Chevy now if you have a really low end system six millimeters would be fine but for a rise in seven processor 22 degree reduction by tripling the gap there so I think it's well worth it anybody that would a unique feature that would be well worth adding to the pylon - as for the MEC - yeah pretty decent rx 580 graphics card I haven't done a huge amount of testing the thermals weren't overly impressive but once we opened up the case 75 degrees that's not too bad for an Rx 580 if you guys want to see a teardown a detailed review I can certainly make that happen so let me know in the comments section below and that's going to do it for this one I hope you enjoyed the video if you did leave a like again comments below do all that good stuff subscribe for more content and if you appreciate what we do to have our box then maybe you consider supporting us on patreon you can get access to our discord chat and monthly livestream that's a labor fun hey that is gonna do it for this one I'm Harry Steve see you next time I made it too far away