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welcome back to harbor unboxed today for you I have another in-depth gaming benchmark comparison this time between the risin 5 2600 and the core i7 7800 X now I did recently compare these two processes or a very similar version it was the 2600 X and the 700 X anyway I compared those you know sort of an IPC type benchmark where both CPUs will lock 4 gigahertz using the same memory spec and I found it for the gaming performance that it was actually quite mixed between these two processes though more often than not I would say rise and did come out on top given those somewhat interesting results I've decided to add these 7800 X to the results gathered in the past few weeks comparing the risin 5 2600 and core i5 8400 I of course drops the 8400 to make way for the 700 X which has been tested in a stock and overclock configuration before we get into the nitty-gritty of it though I would like to just thank Nord VPN for sponsoring this massive benchmark video right now Nord VPNs offering my 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with an external override voltage this is the total voltage going into the CPU set to one point nine volt then for the risin five 2600 there soos ROG crosshair seven hero was used but the same performance can be achieved with a budget x4 70 board or even a be 350 board for that matter anyway two configurations have again been tested a stock out of the box configuration using the g.skill flare xcl 14 memory clocked at 29 33 and for this configuration the CPU is cooled using the rate stealth box cooler then we have a 4.2 gigahertz or core overclock using aggressively tuned g.skill sniper X ddr4 3400 memory with Titan sub timings and the cooler has been upgraded to the course at H 115 I pro but again I should note that you can achieve this overclock with a basic air cooler then finally we have 37 games on the menu each of which has been tested at 720p 1080p and 1440p using the GeForce GTX 280 I last time I did forget Rainbow six siege so ivory added that to the long list of games I'm testing with so let's get into it getting the benchmarking session started is Ark survival evolved and here things look very competitive overclocking the risin 5 2600 offers no real performance advantage in this title and for the most part the same is true for these 7800 X a small gain for the core i7 processor can be seen at 720p but beyond that we are mostly GPU bound ok so previously when comparing the risin 5 2600 to the core i5 8400 and ARMA 3 I found that stop they both do virtually identical performance that being the case I found these results quite shocking but having rechecked to the settings and then the benchmark results themselves I can confirm this isn't the case for the core i7 17 800 X even overclocked the centre header X struggles to match the stock horizon 520 600 which admittedly doesn't seem right I'm not sure why the Scarlet X processor is so slow in this title even at 4.6 gigahertz with ddr4 3,200 memory and these results are intriguing and I'll continue to look into them it would be great to get some feedback from any sky like X owners out there that happen to play ARMA 3 moving on we have ashes of the singularity and here the core i7 700 X was clearly fast in the risin 5 process we're testing at 720p under stock conditions the 7800 X was 7% faster on average and once both CPUs were overclocked that margin grew to 12% though the Intel CPU was just 6% faster for the frame time result as we moved to tear DP things start to become mostly GPU bound and here Intel was never more than 5% faster and that margin structured is 4 percent or less at 1440p like the core i5 8400 tested previously the 700 X easily beats the Rison 5 2600 and Assassin's Creed origins and this is particularly evident at 720p as the GPU isn't limiting performance as heavily here as we move to 10 DP the margins close up dramatically and then at 1440p the same experience is had with either CPU battlefield 1 throws up some mixed results starting at 720p we see that the 2600 was faster out of the box with 9% more frames on average though the frame time performance was much closer however once overclocked the 700 X is now up to 5% faster and we see similar performance trends at turn EP as well it's not until the 1440p resolution is reached that the margins really close up and although the overclocked i5 2600 was a few frames faster these results are within the margin of error ok so I've had a heap of fun with Star Wars Battlefront 2 over the past few days and that is indeed sarcasm in the previous Rison 5 2600 vs. Core i5 8400 comparison the rise in CPU got whipped for the stock configuration and I couldn't work out why it was so slow at the time I did take the time to retest multiple times and the exact same results but even so I knew they didn't make sense especially given that the overclock configuration was up to 40 percent faster and I mentioned at the time that the results didn't make sense when testing these 7800 X I saw great performance at 720p but then the framerate dropped right down at 1080p to the same level of performance seen at 1440p and this made no sense either at this point I knew something was wrong with the game I just didn't know what so I began to investigate for this I switch back over to the AMD arisin test system and started to mess around over and over again I'll sing around 110 to 120 fps at 720p and it wasn't until I alt tabbed to the Windows desktop to check out a few things and then load back into the game that I noticed something quite odd jumping back into the game the framerate was now boosted by at least 30% to around 160 fps now this wasn't a one-off situation either this was repeatable over and over again when using both AMD and Intel hardware and after the alt-tab I was seen the kind of performance margins you'd expect to see however making the issue a little more confusing to diagnose especially when I was benchmarking originally the bug doesn't always seem to be present sometimes when you load into the game you do get maximum performance while other times you see that large drop in performance and this bug isn't just affecting me either Tim was able to replicate my findings on his own test systems and we were also called on our patreon members to help investigate as well and they found the exact same bug with the low resolution testing so apologies for the misinformation regarding the battlefront two numbers in the previous video I will update those results and include them in a pinned comment below I should have dropped the title from a list of games tested until I'd worked out what the issue was but part of me didn't want to drop a game just because AMD was seen to be doing poorly in it but in hindsight I was wrong to include those results again very sorry about the mistake but I am glad we were able to work out the issue by using this workaround to avoid the performance bug here is how the 7800 X and 2600 stack up this time we see at 720p that the overclocked arising configuration was 21% faster and we see a 29% boost for these 7800 X out of the box the 700 X was able to provide a similar average for right with a stronger 1% low result then with both CPUs overclocked the 7800 X was up to 8% faster this margin is heavily reduced at 1080p and 1440p as performance is now GPU limited at least we're looking at the overclocked results moving on we have csgo and some more mixture results and to me at least the 1440p results don't make any sense that being the case I went back and retested twice to try and work out what was going on here this didn't help me understand the results any better but I was able to further validate them so at least that's something although the semi 100x smashes the 2600 for the average framerate at 720p and 1080p it mysteriously drops down to 464 FPS at 1440p and that's not much faster than the stock configuration normally I'd say this is due to GPU limitations but that's clearly not the case as the 2600 pushed the GTX 280 out of 529 FPS and the core i5 8400 was good for around 500 FPS as well it's also interesting to note that the 2600 was up to 27 percent faster than the 7800 x4 the frame time performance even at 1440p very strange results indeed but I can assure you they are accurate Deus Ex mankind divided provides some very competitive results here the semi 100x was never more than a few percent faster and for the most part we saw comparable performance overclocking proved somewhat beneficial at 1080p with the GTX 280 I but even this mighty GPU couldn't justify the overclock at 1440p dirt 4 is a risin friendly title and it shows at 720p the 2600 was up to 13 percent faster than semi 100x once both CPUs were overclocked that's an impressive result given the Rison 5 processor is clocked to 9 percent or lower the 2600 maintained a lead at 1080p and interestingly still offered much better frame ton performance once overclocked at 1440p moving on to f1 2017 here we see the horizon 5 packin a serious punch out of the box as it delivered 12 percent more frames an average when compared to the 7800 X that said with both CPU is overclocked the performance was much the same at all 3 tested resolutions still out of the box the 2600 was much more punchy in this title the far cry 5 results are also quite mixed and very interesting the box the 2600 did dominate at 720p and 1080p but then at 1440p well the average frame rate was much higher we saw a slightly lower frame time result granted it was within the margin of error but it is strange that I only matched the 7800 X here then when overclocked we see at the 7800 X really catches up and even surpasses the 2600 for the average framerate but it was much slower when comparing the 1% low results at all resolutions tested Far Cry primal is an odd title and here we see that it is primarily CPU bound and out of the box the 2600 wipes the floor with the 70 100x but once both CPUs are overclocked the performance is much the same and we see them limiting the GTX 1080i to around 88 to 90 fps firaon is not at all heavy on the CPU and these are primarily GPU bound title and we see this with the 2600 and 700 X which are able to get the most out the GTX 1080i that said the risin 5 processor did at times deliver better frame time performance now just quickly please note that these fortnight numbers aren't comparable with the results from the 8400 versus 2600 benchmark as I've had to use an updated replay doodle recent game patch this new pass is a little more CPU demanding it seems I ran into a few more players at once this time around anyway there isin 5 2600 still does very well out of the box and it crushes the 7 100x at all three resolutions even at 1440p it was still up to 18 percent faster overclocked the 2600 still enjoys commanding leads at 720p and 1080p very by the time we hit 1440p both CPUs GPU limited still overall an exceptional result for AMD in this title using the stock hardware settings the Rison 5 2600 delivered a much better frame time result when testing with frost Punk and this was true for all three resolutions of course the 2600 is paired with memory clocked 22% higher but the Intel spec only calls for 2400 memory so take that up with Intel anyway once overclocked both were able to max out the gtx 1080i so nothing really in it here moving on to grand theft auto 5 and here the Rison 5 2600 does very well both stock and overclocked using the stock settings the 2600 crushed the semi 100x and even once overclocked the 700 take a similar beating although the frame time performance was comparable at 1440p the average frame rate was still 9% higher with the 2600 moving on the Hitman we see that the stock settings saw these 7800 X and 2600 deliver similar performance and thus every hour X was a few frames faster for the average while the 2600 was ahead for the frame time result though both were within or extremely close to the margin of error overclocking did favor Intel this time around and now the semi 100x was up to 10 percent faster and this extremely CPU bound title Just Cause 3 provides what are probably the most competitive results we've seen so far basically the 700 X and 2600 deliver the same performance when stock and then the same performance once overclocked although in an unlikely scenario for a CPU limited title it was bound to happen sooner or later Kingdom Come deliverance is up next and the 70 odd heretics struggled to keep pace with the 2600 in this title even when overclocked it still lagged behind until we ran into the GPU limited 1440p results this is a poorly optimized total in my opinion but even so it did play quite well in the 2600 Mass Effect Andromeda provided very competitive results and we see a bit of back and forth between the two CPUs overall though before us was much the same so there's really no clear winner here next up we have the overwatch bot match and here the 2600 offered better frame time performance out of the box however once both CPUs were overclocked they maxed out the GTX 1082 I deliver the same GPU limited performance here we can see when testing with pray that the 2600 has the 1700 X's number out of the box 720p and 1080p as we often find by the time we hit 1440p though we do reach a GPU limit so there's really no chance for either CPU to make a note where the difference here then once overclocked both CPUs deliver comparable performance even at the low resolutions Intel's Core i7 7800 X struggles and project curves - and here the horizon 5 processor was faster both stock and overclocked even at 1440 pay the 2600 was up to 11% faster when stock and still 6% faster with both CPUs overclocked I'd say the lower frequency ddr4 memory really kills us every 100x in pub G and we see that once paired with ddr4 3400 memory and clocked it was able to add your head of the 2600 our overall competitive performance as you might have expected when overclocked the performance is limited at 1440p by the GPU Intel enjoys the performance advantage in quake champions we're not GPU limited at 720p and 1080p there at no point did it enjoy double-digit gains with frame rates well over 100 FPS at all times both CPUs led for very player performance but at the lower resolutions the semi 100x was able to push a little harder okay so very sorry I forgot to include Rainbow six siege last time out the good news is I didn't make the same mistake twice so let's go over the results we're mostly GPU limited at 1080p and 1440p so let's focus on the 720p numbers here we were a CPU limited for these stock results but once overclocked the 2600 was able to push the GTX 1080i a little harder allowing for up to 5% more performance not a big win by any means but the rise and 5 processor was consistently faster although shadow of what is a mostly GPU bound title we did see stronger framerate performance from the 2600 at 720p and TP so solid performance from AMD 6 core CPU here but overall we were GPU limited so both process has delivered similar results next up we have Sniper Elite 4 and healer Aizen 5 2600 was up to 13% faster out of the box and quite shockingly remained 12% faster for the frame time performance at 720p once both CPUs were overclocked even at the more GPU limited 1440p resolution the 2600 maintained noticeably stronger frame time performance and when overclocked was still 10% faster to my surprise when testing with Starcraft 2 for the first time in a long time in the previous video comparing the 8400 and 2600 I found the rise in 526 hundred to be very impressive in this title here we see that it again stacks up very well this sum against the 7800 X and offers greater performance out of the box and once overclocked moving on we have the division and this title almost always provides us with GPU limited results we're testing with mid-range to high-end CPUs here we see that overclocking the 2600 offer little to no benefit as the gtx 1080i is pushed to the max by the stock rising processor the stock 700 X isn't able to maximize the GTX 1080 eyes performance even at 14 pay which is quite shocking that said the ddr4 2400 memory is likely limiting performance here overclock though the 700 X gets up to speed and is now to match the 2600 when testing the core i5 8400 previously we saw really weak frame time before it's when compared to the 2600 and we again see that when testing the 700 X although the average framerate is much the same the frame time performance is well down until we hit the GPU limited 1440p results that the 7800 X is able to catch up I'll just quickly touch on the titanfall 2 performance as we are 100% GPU limited in this game and then at 720p and 1080p we run into a 144 FPS frame cap which at least to my knowledge still can't be removed so that being the case there's not really much to report here so let's move right along to vermintide - a recently released title that plays exceptionally well with the horizon processes both stock and overclocked both stock and overclocked the 2600 dominates the 7rx in this title consistently delivering stronger frame time and average framerate performance this is a seriously good result family and I wonder if we're going to start seeing more and more new titles delivering these kinds of results moving on to total war Warhammer 2 and here it's worth noting that the overclocked 700 X is only able to deliver performance that's similar to this stock Core i5 8400 as a result the 2600 was faster both out of the box and overclocked it's not until we hit the GPU limited 1440p resolution that 700 X is able to match the 2600 watchdogs 2 is a very CPU intensive title but given that it predates the release of Verizon is better optimized for Intel hardware and we see the result of that here even out of the box the 700 X was superior and extends its lead at 720p and 1080p once overclocked even at 1440p the 700 X beats out the 2600 so not a great showing from AMD here the second last game tested is Ghost Recon wildlands and here we see a mostly GPU limited scenario particularly at 1080p and 1440p dropping down to 720p does allow for some separation and once overclock the 700 X is the more powerful CPU on this title though of course under most normal conditions this difference might be realized finally we have World of Tanks and here find some very competitive performance both stock and overclocked these are CPU limited results and despite that both the 2600 and semi 100x are very evenly matched okay so if you made it this far well done we've now looked at how the core i7 CRX and risin 520 600 compare in 37 games both stock and overclocked at three resolutions to make summarizing these results a bit easier here's the average performance across all the games tested as you might have expected the overall picture looks quite even at 720p the rise in v 2600 was up to 9% faster out of the box but the default Intel and AMD memory specs say the 2600 pair of ddr4 memory clocked 22% higher so a big advantage to AMD there once both CPUs are overclocked to a realistic maximum frequency with fine screen memory sub timings and the mesh overclocked for the 700 X we find very similar performance the frame time result was a few percent better with the 2600 but the average frame rate was a few percent higher with the similar X so again pretty similar performance those margins are also seen at 1080p there at 1440p the rise of 520 600 did a little better overall with stronger frame time performance still though there wasn't a great deal in it sorry there you have it in terms of gaming performance the Rison 5 2600 and core i7 7800 X are very similar once both CPUs are fine-tuned for maximum performance I imagine if we bumped up the stock configuration for the 7800 X up to ddr4 29:33 we would see identical performance out of the box as well but by doing that we are technically overclocking the memory in any case both CPUs are able to deliver exceptional gaming performance so you might be wondering why I haven't mitad - not liking the core i7 70 our X in the past most recently in my top 5 worst CPUs video to be clear the 7800 X isn't a bad CPU as you've just seen performance when overclocked is excellent the issue is the price the 700 X comes in at an MSRP of 390 dollars u.s. making it more expensive than the much faster core i7 8700 K and significantly more expensive than the $190 u.s. Rison 520 600 essentially what this means is that the 2600 is offering the same level of gaming performance for half the price it gets even worse when you factor in the platform cost the cheapest X $2.99 boards are priced $200 us while the X 470 boards start at 140 dollars u.s. though it is possible to achieve a similar level of performance on an ultra affordable $80.00 USB 350 board you also need to purchase twice as many ddr4 memory modules if you want to take advantage of the 70 100 X's quad-channel memory support the 70 X also requires some seriously beefy cooling at 4.6 gigahertz whereas the 2600 is good with a basic air cooler for our 4.2 you Hertz overclock so and their very least you're looking at having to spend 80% more on the 700 X and X 2 9 combo opposed to the 2600 and X 470 combo how you could buy to Rison 526 hundred protesters and to be 350 motherboards for the price of a single 17 her X processor and board this right here is why I don't like the Scarlett X series it has nothing to do with the CPUs being bad because they're anything but again what's bad here is Intel's insane prices I'd say the days of massive profit margins for Intel are coming to an end for example we're surely going to see fewer and fewer end-users coughing up an 80% premium for the core i 9 79 6 DX over the incoming thread ripper 29 50 X when they deliver the same level of performance anyway I'm not hiding on Intel here I'm merely noting that we have some serious competition in the CPU space now and Intel really does need to react to that by lowering the prices of their high-end desktop parts of course they won't feel the need to reduce prices until they see a decline in sales but that's surely going to happen is AMD continues to become more and more competitive with each release finally don't forget to check out Nord VPN using the link in the video description they're offering a risk-free 30 day money back guarantee so start protecting your internet experience today with 77% off a three year plan using code Harbor unboxed at Nord VPN comm forward slash Harbor unboxed it really is a fantastic service that I do use myself so I'm sure you won't be disappointed and I honestly do highly recommend Nord VPN and that is going to do it for this one if you did enjoy the video be sure to hit the like button subscribe for more content if you appreciate the work we do in our inbox then consider supporting us on patreon thanks watching on me hey Steve and I'll see again next time