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welcome back to how we're unboxed it is time for the final QA of the year obviously our December QA and yeah I'm already pretty much in holiday mode I headed off to Tim's this morning completely for that I actually had to appear on the main channel for the QA I thought we were just doing our live streams and I just throw on any old shirt and this is the shirt that everyone hates because it does that what's that effect called again I think it's the Morrie effect why I don't know anyway does some effect where I move around it's all very weird so everyone complains about that so I'm already messing up whatever we have plenty of good questions so hopefully that will make up for me wearing the wrong shirt okay first question are you ready for the first question I'm ready let's get into it we're ready when should a power user upgrade hard drives and SSDs if this space is not an issue okay so how often does she change that stuff 50 spaces and an issue how much faster a new ones versus models from three years ago so I assume we're talking about newer SSDs there so unv amazing that sort of stuff also when is long term reliability of those drives become a concern and warrant an upgrade okay that's a pretty good question I've sort of wondered that myself actually with SSDs join me to take that one or if you get some IDs so go ahead um well as for the hard drives it depends on how much you're using em and stuff like that but generally hard drives are pretty reliable especially when you're proven to be reliable up until this point so I probably wouldn't worry about hard drives too much as long as you backup the data that's on them then you know I just use hard drives till they die SSDs it's a little bit different because you can sort of get an indication of when they're wearing so Tim that you were saying to me earlier that hardware info gives you that kind of yeah I think hardware info gives you the total amount that you've written yeah the drive okay so then you can base that against your the insurance rating of the driver you have to sort of see how far into its life okay I think there's also maybe a percentage there that it gives you as well of you know how much life you've got left in okay so yeah that tends to be a good way to you know know when your SSD is going to die but usually the endurance ratings are so massive for a typical consumer it's very difficult to get there so yeah it's pretty difficult so I guess the thing that I sort of think with SSDs is that SATA drives so the more basic you know cheaper end of the scale tend to be fine in terms of performance for most tasks sure initial like really have a workload that's very storage intensive especially with random you know access yep you don't really mean and the speed advantage of nvme drives so I tend to think there's not a lot of reason to upgrade a drive that's not capacity related definitely for gamers and sort of general usage absolutely you talked about this in your thread refer video saying that you've upgraded to a pretty high performance nvme SSD yeah that's just as a scratch yes yeah for premiere now yeah that was you know obviously premiere when you've got those 4k videos is really hammering the drives at certain times so that's why the advantages to having that PCI you drive in there but yeah again I think for things like you know loading windows which is one of the you know learning apps like a silent drive is going to be fine so there's not as much incentive to say if you had a even know like an 860 Evo or something to go up to like a 970 Pro it's not for desktop users it's definitely a luxury item far from a necessity know you thought you say you stand inside our SSD plenty fast enough and you can just monitor the wear level the endurance how much you've used at this some pretty good standalone applications as well I think I don't know if this is its exact name but there was one I used years ago that think was called SSD life that was pretty good that you just recommended Malware now haven't you possibly possibly well if I have rewind so manufacturers such as Samsung they're obviously a popular maker Vestas days they have life the Samsung Magician which will give you a fairly basic condition whether it's good or whatever so that that's a pretty good indication I think they will go into some more detail there of like how many how much data has been written and all that sort of stuff and obviously the controllers now manage them pretty well so that they make sure that like one sells not just hammered peeps they yeah spread it out so yeah I mean I wouldn't worry too much about it as long as you backup your data then you just use it till they die I wouldn't change it prematurely yeah that's fair so okay apparently this one from Derby the name is suitable on this question massive adobe success cut that out don't cut that out I'm from YouTube well it's on all of them because this was heavily upload not it was yeah so this was heavily upvote I think people just like the controversy or I don't know how it is I'll write the question out do you think the new AMD GPU leaks are too good to be true if anyone has watched Tim's video on this that comment is hilarious anyway the RX 30 ad will perform around our TX 2070 our TX 2080 for half the price okay can we just cut the video here to enter or insert you're a bit on this and this move on oh I guess we could do that I mean yeah it's surprising that some people didn't see that video considering what was the most I'm going one of the most that voted YouTube yeah on our community tab anyway but yeah I guess all of our thoughts are in in that view I mean yeah our tix are not actually access it via rx 3080 performing around our tix 2070 for half the price I could see that happening if it was released much later in the year around when Nvidia releases their 7 nanometre procs because then there'll be a lot of competition but I can't see them releasing mercy at CES or in the no future when they're just competing with new videos cards and you know I'd love you to be wrong yeah cannibalizing their rx 590 so later in the year definite possibility but sooner than that can't see it happening ok next question and I'm gonna hand this one off to Tim so we'll get this out of the way I wonder you can see that minimum specs for a second PC used only for streaming turnip a 60 FPS on Twitch go for it um so I think 1080p 60fps isn't particularly interior thought so I think if you already have a high-end system like rise to 720 700 X or you know high in Intel a 700 K you should be able to play the game and stream on the same PC reasonable quality if you're after that second PC then you'll be sort of looking at you sort of encoding medium or slow next to 64 presets which you might not be able to do on the same PC in which case a lot of CPUs really have the capability to do that I mean something like a risin 5 2600 is going to be fine for like medium 1080p 60 encoding certainly this PC we use for streaming here for our live streams has a 2700 X in it and so that's our high in CP has used it like 30 percent 40 percent utilization when encoding 1080p 60fps using the medium preset so you don't really need anything super high-end interesting look into though together yeah also wonder how many people do have that set up of a second stream PC because I would think that not many a second PC for streaming is really a sort of you're more into your streaming you're sure more potentially professional and in which case do you make that second PC also an editing rig for everything say highlight clips for YouTube or something in which case then you know a 2600 might be fine for streaming yeah but you might want something like even if the red ripper 2950 x4 videos if this is ask on their behalf of someone who is getting into twitch and want to take it go fairly seriously and I want frame drops and things like that and stuttering then yeah I think an older even as old as maybe Sandy Bridge like yeah lock system overclocked has well any of those sort of older quad core systems probably would work like I said I'm good to actually do some proper benchmarking on that and see yeah I imagine that would be fine just for the encouraging part yep all right next one is from Nick discord server I've heard from several sources now that the 2070 and 2080 are not selling well and what do you guys think the chances are of a rebate bundled games or MSRP a price drop to encourage those important sales now in their next quarterly financial report um well we've also heard that they're not selling well I haven't seen any concrete evidence that's the case yes they well the 2070 dropped down to the MSRP for a lot of cards the base price quite quickly so that somewhat suggests that they're not selling like hotcakes and the 2080 is now there though it did take a little bit longer so read into that what you will yeah I think the thing I sort of see with the 27 to 28 is that I imagined that they didn't sell particularly well to begin with not just for the reason of offering you know similar price to the previous gen and similar performance but also a lot of people were just buying Pascal cards like if you're really waiting until Nvidia r-tx came out so that you could see what it's like as we recommend at the start you know at 1080 TI of 1080 at 1070 TI are all sort of better value propositions but now that the 1080 and 1080i are pretty much gone from the market the prices are inflated because stock levels have dropped massively I wouldn't be surprised to see those sales pick up a bit because there's no other competition if you if you're right now wanting to buy a high end GPU your options are RTX 2080 or at 6:28 TI and then with the RT x 2070 it's competing with Vegas 64 which is a similar price it's around at $500 mark and depending on the game now let's be honest even before that it was still Pascal we were mostly recommending so I'm still in video basically don't address the question I don't think there'll be any rebates any I mean bundled game now and go there's a battlefield fire fund the MSRP will definitely not drop about I shouldn't say definitely but I'm certain it won't yeah until AMD pull their thumb out and have a go pretty much competition creates price drops infatuation war GPU was say we need to get them going again alright now the popular question on YouTube do you think game developers get less creative like just rebranding their old stuff so it was just Changez and then selling it for a high price once again yes and no I mean it's hard to generalize and say they all do it but there's definitely evidence of that like we've had while fallout was probably one that comes to mind yeah I haven't given that any chance I think the word so rebranding gives it a sort of negative spin because we always talk about you know rebranding graphics cars it's like nothing exciting I think there's definitely sort of multiple ways that game developers rebrand their stuff because I think of a a great example is Assassin's Creed obviously that game is a lot of the artwork and assets and everything's very similar to origins yeah and all of the systems are very similar but they actually did do pretty significant changes to things like the narrative structure you know the things you can do in the game the combat system and that makes it quite a different game and it makes it a better game whereas then you think of fallout 76 which is very similar to fallout 4 but it's like terrible so I think we're seeing more of you know game developers putting so much effort into these big triple-a titles that they want to get as much out as possible DLCs been one way to do that and now in other ways just to sort of create as another similar game uses as much of their old stuff as possible yeah you can make refresh as exciting I'm not saying yes refreshes but I'm saying the term refresh you can make a refresh product exciting but you can refresh a graphics card and charge a lot less and it's a new exciting fact and in the case of these games yogur if what you're saying like another example would be Just Cause for yeah now I didn't need that game to be visually improved from Just Cause 3 I just needed it to be not downgraded in certain areas some areas it is better for sure but other areas it's not and then the performance downgrade is massive yeah so if it looked the same and performed at the same but it was a whole new exciting adventure then I think that would be acceptable yeah and I think there's there's another game that we've just recently been looking at his hitman 2 for exam is very similar to hitman 1 yeah except every area is different in you and if you bought hitman one that's including the game of hitman two the only disappointing thing with that one is that they've seemed to have downgraded which is really bizarre I still don't know we've got an answer this why is it no directx12 was one of the few games that worked awesome with DirectX 12 didn't know initially but by the end of the you know the patching four and it got to a really good place and then they've just script yeah so but I thinking in that in that game that's a good way to sort of sure not have to do too much but you're giving new content and there's enough new content in that game to make it warrant it is not just a DLC because that's kind of some people say like for that 76 should have just been a DLC for Fallout 4 yeah I mean it's a final Idol of their f1 games every year like you get if there's a new few new tracks on the calendar will they model those and add them to the game and then you get some new cars and then sometimes they try to add a few new game modes and things and the way the cars handle so it is a new game it's not just new skins yeah like I think there's some games obviously that don't fall into that like Shadow the tomb Raider's obviously quite improved in every way yeah for to horizon for as well major changes compared but they were they were successful exciting games of the year yeah so what does that tell me an assassin's creed obviously was also very popular so there's yeah well it wasn't terrible it was we were just hoping it would be a little less clunky than the previous yeah I mean that was the issue with that again not necessarily their bare specs but yep yeah okay we'll get through this one a bit quicker than we did the last question this one is considering how much you guys spend benchmarking how much actual time do you get to play games for fun and not for benchmarking purposes I feel like we answer this question probably every second QA I don't know that's true yeah I feel like I've done a few times I play it depends it goes I think for me gaming is a cycle thing so in winter when there's not much else to do I generally game in the free time I have with friends that's a good time of the year to catch up with friends have a few drinks relax play some games it's very much just a social thing for me now rather than I don't play single-player or anything like that but right now we're in summer and I don't really game at all it's like any free time I get I'm usually outside doing things out there and then back on the computer benchmarking so yeah play matches Tommy yeah I'm pretty consistent throughout the year of playing regularly but I would say that I play lots of games they're not baby maybe an hour or two here and there you know when there's some free time into the night or something and that's usually when but yeah certainly not as much as I used to well yeah same here I used to gain quite a lot but I think most young guys do especially when you move out of home for the first time and yeah you've got your own place and that and it's good to catch up with mates and play games but yeah unfortunately those days don't last forever yeah okay another question from our discord chat what is the most disappointing game you've ever played we had a bit of discussion yeah I always get caught out with these game ones because I feel like disappointing games again that really disappoints you well some of them they cut your deep and you remember for a long time I disappointed where some of them he's like yeah and you move on quickly and I think for me I did play it a lot with friends and we did enjoy it but we we suffered through it you know in a way and that would have been Red Alert 3 so huge command & Conquer fan which some of you guys are probably aware of and yeah I enjoyed Red Alert 3 probably a lot of people didn't but where it was disappointing was the game wasn't nearly as polished as it could have been the netcode or whatever their online system was was horrible it took forever to get a game they were often laggy and you know it's just a bit of a nightmare so it was kind of it was letdown other thing it was so close to being a really fun great real time strategy game and then the other one is that the one you're gonna bring yeah the one that I was gonna go so this is an equal for me definitely the remake of Sim City and that came out recently like the most recent Sim City game I think then that was nowhere near as good as the older ones i pre-ordered that yeah I know because I'm a big SimCity fan at heart like so SimCity 2000 basically as what got me into computers that and the original DOS version of command & Conquer so those two games I loved to bits and for me the SimCity games never really captured I think was at 3,000 that came after 2000 I mean that would make sense if it was at the time line maybe it was just straight to fall but I'm not sure I can't remember there was a follow-up SimCity that wasn't as good as 2000 it was still pretty good I enjoyed it I enjoyed a lot of SimCity 4 yeah I didn't really get into it after that and then you know the latest one came out it looked awesome I was high up I was like this is gonna be great and it was clunky around like crap the maps were really small yeah they got real like so much stuff so much done could do yeah I did yeah so that was a huge year lucky have city skylines now she's sort of filled that gap a bit okay next question is from net Walker from our discord chat can I get a question for the next QA no sorry moving on next net Walker's question is who decides what you actually I like this question who decides what you guys do and how do you work out what that is so I believe the question is how do we work out what content we're doing what products by covering or you know why are we covering them or if I decide if I decide to do a big benchmark video or whatever it may be why do we decide to do the content that we do it in the order that we do what I suppose yep is that one trying to start with that or you're missin no go ahead huh so if you don't understand that it's a really good question I still thought it through each each of us comes up with our own sort of content that we want to cover it's not like you tell me what to do yeah yeah it's kind we just have our own projects so each of the videos that you see on the channel you know Steve's benchmark videos you all the work that videos I do I do all the work for that so yeah just things that interest us you know important your product won't choose things that you guys mentioned in the comments that might be interesting yeah it's a combination classics yep so yeah each content piece will have a bit of everything or just one thing like some of it may be pressing news so that's pretty obvious we do that because it's pressing news and it's worth covering it's you know relates to what we do on the channel some of its you like Tim said interesting products for a product launch so yeah we half of that stuff I think for the most part it's just stuff that interests us yeah because all of this kind of tech stuff interests us and you guys are interested in channel cuz that reason so it's good it works for everyone the big benchmark videos sometimes they requested if they were a request and I had no interest in doing it I didn't want to do it then I probably wouldn't do unless it was massively requested and I suppose I'd suffer through it for you guys but generally like I said if there's something I want to do like I don't know the 9700 K versus the 8700 K and a heap of games because you guys are tossing it which one to buy I'm seeing a lot of that request at the moment actually then yeah that's something I will do so yeah it's just stuff that interests us mostly I we really shy away from content that we don't enjoy there has to be a serious a slob to do it's a slob you know and it makes that it makes a bad job what makes the job a job is end up being something that you're really passionate about and enjoy so we really try to avoid that as much as possible so you know not a lot of sponsored content or stuff you're getting paid to make we don't really do that because yeah that's again not stuff we want to do so yeah so there won't be too many vacuum cleaner reviews and things and I Steve from gamers Nexus will be disappointed in us alright got another question here from a discord chat what Triple A titles expected in 2019 at games you can't wait to get your hands on for personal enjoyment not for benchmarking I always hate these questions not fence just because like I don't have any really way of answering them and it sounds like I am NOT a gamer or don't enjoy gaming when that's not entirely true I do enjoy gaming but I don't know why I suppose I've sort of lost interest in the new upcoming game so I sort of like them just to arrive and then if they're good if they don't need like a million patches on day away if that broken in some way then I can just enjoy them it's like a brush of a brush a breath of fresh air can't even say nothing that happens that regularly you know I was looking for to just calls for alone yeah that's still a fun game but I was a little bit let down by how bad the visuals are the water and stuff like that Assassin's Creed Odyssey as well that was a bit of a slog initially I think they fixed that in a few ways I'm enjoying playing I'm like 30 hours you know I enjoy I unpack yeah so yeah I mean yeah I just sound like a negative Nancy when it comes to these questions what have you got team Boris um I mean I'm in a similar position in there I guess back back a couple years back I was much more interested in sort of you know what's the release schedule looking like for you know the rest of the year what's the cool stuff to to play but my backlog of games I want to play is so large now because I don't have as much time to play them that's right it's not like I'm waiting for the next game it's that you know I can when I finished Assassin's Creed Odyssey there's another like I want to play hitman I want to play a bit of battlefield won't do all these other games so it's not not as much waiting for the future is just playing what we'll have access to now I mean there's games like your metro coming out next year that was I really enjoyed those previous games yeah I'm going to check that I'm interested to see how anthem is because and EA will absolutely stuff that up in some way and I'm just waiting to see see there we are cheery again that was an obsidian game that was just recently teased that looks pretty good I like obsidian the past oh yeah that's sort of thing but again like for the foreseeable future they'll always be something my backlog that I can just pick up well yeah we're next wanna play something yeah so I'm always excited by like you Starcraft type games command & Conquer the real time strategies but like what's on the horizon for those it's kind of a dead John route the moment isn't it those games tend to just come out of nowhere it's like they're just very quickly announced they're out there yeah them yeah and yeah there's lot of interesting stuff like more indie sort of niche strategy tiles these days man yeah so probably Starcraft three in ten years for me yep I'm looking forward to okay another question from our discord with high refresh VA panels does adaptive sync eliminate ghosting or is it simply a pixel refresh issue for that technology that adaptive simply can't eliminate oh yeah so adaptive sync and response times ghosting that sort of thing are basically completely unrelated I think there was a lot of this confusion comes from a report Oh a long time ago back around the launch of this technology I think someone did some dodgy test testing and I think they eventually said that they hadn't done it correctly to begin with that sort of was comparing I think free sync with g-sync and showing free sync monitor to have worst ghosting but actually is like a different panel they see respect I think it was PC perspectives that do and then they admitted their mistake later in colleges but I think I remember that story yeah so I think a lot of people sort of read that report and then didn't see the follow up content they sort of disprove that yeah so yeah I think that's where this link this real link between things comes from the reality is that the response times have simply dictated by the panel and the technology that goes into it so VA it's one of the slowest of the panel types it's just the way that they create the crystals and everything that goes into that panel makes it quite slow to transition and adaptive sync is a completely different part of the display you know I guess pipeline it's kind of like that's the that's integrated to the scaler and not into the panel itself so integrating adaptive sink really has no impact on our response times okay one from Bruce bellend have you considered benchmarking the impact of de novo on games performance so this is sort of a DRM type thing I don't know if there's any possible way of doing that do you know yeah because I'm pretty sure that games that get cracked to remove de nouveaux just fool it well yeah it doesn't remove and it just tricks it into hearing that it's authenticating I was finding interesting when people say that a game like Assassin's Creed origins runs better when it's cracked because deliver actually isn't removed from that game no not crack it yeah so that's not one I can give too much insight on the software side of how all that stuff works is definitely not my forte but as far as I know you can't really strip it out of games to then benchmark them without it unless there's a game out there that has been cracked and it's been successfully removed if there is feel free let me know all right Steve do you think Intel will move on from the i3 i5 i7 + i9 naming scheme with their successor to the sky like refreshes any ideas and a hundred and nine ninety K surely not I have to think they sure when I go with that so this is the coffee like we're talking about isn't it yes for their next products yeah surely they keep the core i3 in there something yeah well I would have thought Core i3 i5 I yeah whatever that will stick around because they've sort of made that look like kind of well it's a brand everyone recognizes when you can buy a laptop or whatever you know that an i5 is better than i3 and so on and so forth and they just introduced I nines they've got that huge family now of varying products as for the actual model names though of what goes after the iron iron part hmm I've got nothing yeah they're gonna have to come up with something because they can't use ten ten nineteen ninety K or whatever nine hundred ninety K yeah that's wrong that's no good yeah 1099 yeah okay we'll stop there we'll hit pause and we'll pick up part two probably tomorrow on the channel so stick around for that and yeah hopefully you guys enjoyed well what's the first half of the last Q&A of the year I get that right that's right yep so yeah Merry Christmas in advance but will probably say that again in tomorrow's video and yeah if you enjoyed this video hit the like button subscribe for more content usually not Q&A is but we do that once a month and yeah that is going to do it for this one thank you for watching I'm your host Steve I'm use to my kiss see you next time we'll work this out one day