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welcome back to our unboxed this is Tim yeah apparently I never say in the videos but Steve's just told you all how I am so welcome back to the part 2 of our was it now February QA yeah I think we've just squeezed in here at the end with with the Q&A series so make sure you go back and watch part 1 before part 2 lots of good questions in there lots good questions to come up so yeah let's get into it ok an interesting question here that was heavily uploaded I believe I had a look at the comments thread and I think this one was near the top do you recall yeah I think so I think this was very very heavily uploaded the question goes is it weird that those are reviews that have tested the radion 7 with the 2,700 X have better results than the majority room tested with the no no okay I haven't seen that so I'm going to take your word for it I obviously tested with the night oh okay but that's interesting I'm actually really intrigued to look into that like I said I know nothing of it we've found in the past that Radeon I sorry Rison CPUs perform better with Radio and GPUs than they do with GeForce GPUs but AMD GPUs performing better on AMD CPUs opposed to Intel CPUs is a new one for me I haven't come across that before so potentially weird I'll have to look into that and get back to you guys and see if I'd love if you could point out if anyone's actually done testing to actually just occurring to me now that I may have the answer for this question it could just be that the 2700 X is bottlenecking yeah I was gonna suggest that the GPUs yeah I didn't really want to say that the 2700 bottleneck base cards because very unlikely that would but if he's trying to compare to a 20 atti at 1080p it likely will though no I the Radeon 7 would be compared to the RT X 2080 yeah and there's no way you're testing those cards at 720p I imagine the reviews would be looking at forty or forty P to make any difference there that's right yeah so that's a bit strange I'd have to see this settings they're using in the games they're testing with it doesn't really make sense to me at all and the only scenario where I could say that would be the cases of 2700 X's bottlenecking the r-tx 2080 but if it's very very strange because they deliver the same performance anyway yeah but I'll look into it all right Steve yeah what's been your favorite game to benchmark benchmark that's a weird one it's kind of strange when you've played the same game in the same spot for 60 seconds thousands of times over I don't think it really matters too much they're all kind of similar in that regard you just do your pass and that's it so my favorite you get I don't know if I couldn't really say a favorite one because like I said they're all pretty much the same except my favorites would be the games that don't have a million splash screens don't take forever and a day to load so I can just click the icon the game loads up in a reasonable amount of time I can get to where I need to test it has save points that helps that helps a lot it has say multiple saved game points you can make multiple files and run your testing that way because games where there's like a checkpoint every buddy 20 seconds is a nightmare and then like Rainbow six siege takes forever to open absolutely it takes so long to load on any CPU it's like an internet thing or something gonna know but yeah games load quick question for Steve I guess I'll take care of that I thought an AMD getting sued for their definition of a CPU core and regards that FX processors it's all a bit silly isn't it really I don't really know what to say on that one too much did you touch on that in news corner ah maybe a while back yeah it's it's I mean it's it's really hard to even get into it's kind of like the whole what we were talking about with the RT X stuff like my opinion if I'm evaluating RT X now on its own it's very different to how critical I would have been having evaluated on the promise of a month long pre-order that this is going to be amazing if you get what I mean so it's like if you saw like was there even a pre-order period for FX processes so there was you could easily research them and see how they performed in your workload and who cares how many calls it has you really just like it if I told you the nice to hear ok had 30 cause but then you check to the performance of it and you're like well it performs like what I expect out of an ant call process no then I know it's all just a bit silly all of it silly I think yeah probably don't need to bash the FX processes this QA let's try and break that alright fair enough I think there's another question here for me could you explain the differences between greater gray response times and input latency and his grade response time any way related to refresh rate so the input latency is how long it takes from the signal from your GPU to go well it doesn't really count the cable but once it hits the start of the monitor so once it comes out of the cable into the monitor and then when it starts to transition on to your screen that is the input latency is how long it takes for it to take the input and then start delivering you the image that simple latency the greater grow response time is how quickly the pixels themselves can do the change so after the input has been processed it's ready to be displayed how long can the crystals physically change in the display so that's why you normally see a curve like this because it's a that's just basically at work so yeah the Griego response knows how long it takes for the pixels to change the input main sees how long it takes to process and yes great a gray response time someone's at the door maybe delivering me a parcel yes greater gray response times are related to the refresh rate they tend to be slower at lower refresh rates alright another question do you think it's a monitor question I'm gonna minute guys how do you recline these things again Tim Andy's monitors let me know you go to your weight net when you're done I'm sure you could input on this one do you think that 21:9 will ever officially replace 69 the same way 69 overtook for 3 movies have been using 29 for a long time no more games were officially supporting more opportunity as a is the domination of 21:9 inevitable what was a question sir very professional maybe I don't think it's right for everyone because it is quite wide so I guess it just depends on the use case I think 16:9 overtook 4:3 simply because made a lot more sense for some types of content was I don't think 21 is a clear cut makes more sense / 69 is the military helicopters coming we've been battling with this Q&A yeah the Melbourne airshow is on the on the weekend that right yeah that's right so military helicopters they're delivering the military helicopters to the airshow right over my head yes very very loud yes it's for you knowing so well we'll come back to this question in a moment helicopters overhead get in the chopper all right back to normal business the helicopters been delivered to the airfield 21 9 over 69 gear yeah I just think that it's not gonna be suitable for everyone's use case oh thank you I'm just advocating for 16 10 to combat 16 10 16 10 so yeah I just think it depends on the amount of space you have what you're looking for words yeah 4 3 seem to die pretty quick one once people realize that wider and that regard is better but yes oh I don't think it'll become as widespread but will still be an option for a long time all right question I'm sorry again one of our longtime discord members what are your thoughts on rendering features like dynamic resolution scaling and temporary construction tech like checkerboard rendering that the consoles make use of and do you think both should become industry standard options across most if not all games on PC as well why don't any reason not to include features like this there's you know it doesn't do anything wrong you can choose to enable it or disable it so yeah there's definitely no reason not to experiment with things like this I think for PCs those features need to be better than they are for consoles simply because with a PC you're viewing your lorem too close you're more likely to notice artifacts the console gaming you're mostly on a couch sit back from your TV it's harder to spot some of the issues with those technologies I think they're coming a long way though and they certainly could make their way to pieces I've reasonably assumed without much of a quality loss so I think it's something that should be explored and yeah there's no real no real negative to including them ok question here why do you think AMD screwed up the Radeon 7 launch did I say they've screwed it up wasn't a particularly exciting or great launch I think they screwed it up or maybe they did with the availability which is the next part so the card is not available mm-hmm there are a lot of problems at launch too expensive at the moment like 800 plus dollars where I live power consumption and noise to handle manually I think you means you have to sort of manually adjust those things to get them under control so manual fan curve under volt if you can and don't forget the no UEFI support why is aim D unable to properly launch something like this a lot of these issues seem so obvious to fix to you and I do you have any hope for Navi well I don't think they screwed up the launch it wasn't a smooth launch they certainly could have done better and yeah I mean they would have been a lot better off delaying the car by a week or two to get the press driver sorted out the press driver was an absolute I can't use that language it was a mess no it was an absolute mess and it was bad in all games the second I started testing I ran into troubles I reached that state from gamers Nexus and he said I haven't started testing yet I'll let you know if I run into any problems he said I'll be testing in about an hour about an hour later he gets back to me this is a nightmare so I don't know what kind of level of testing they did to validate that driver ready for press but it's kind of a big deal that you get press a working stable reliable driver that performs as it should so yeah I mean that's where they screwed up that it would have been our review would have been good if we didn't have to include all that nonsense but thankfully the public driver was perfectly fine so I suppose that's equally important if not more so then the things like the noise that's annoying I would have rather yeah they made the card run five degrees hotter and be a bit quieter that probably would've been a better balance there the fan curve could have definitely done with some basic tweaking so I agree with you there that's something that I think all of us will agree on as for the power consumption I'm not sure there's too much they can do there again we talked about those problems in a previous comment earlier question yeah then the UAF is that stuff that was a an unfortunate oversight but yeah I think I think to say why you know is that AMD unable to launch things like this properly is a little bit unfair considering the juggernauts that they're up against I think for the most part they do do a pretty good job that makes my choices at times but you know who knows how these companies think yeah I I don't think I don't think I overall it was a total screwup I think the Radeon 7 is okay it just fails to really excite the current price I think that's pretty much end of it another question from our discord chat here so I've just been watching the big benchmark video for the 16 60 TI if the graph versus the 1070 we can see the 16 60 TI falling behind the 1070 in roughly 50% of the games do you have any theories about why this is the case is it the sixth gigabyte frame buffer already showing its limitations oh okay no definitely not that I talked about that oh i looted - it probably didn't get into it that clearly but the main reason is there's a big difference in critical count there so if they both have the same amount of criticals so if they both had nineteen hundred and twenty criticals they would both deliver well worst case the Turing GPU would be this would deliver the same level of performance that would be worst case but best case it would be much faster so I think it's 1536 sounds about right yep CUDA calls for the gtx 660ti so yeah it's got quite there is quite a difference there in critical count so the fact that it overall delivers the same performance is yeah speaks to the improvements they've made with deterring architecture alright next question here I think this one's a bit of a news cornerguy question but I'll just sort of read between the lines on this one Intel's now starting to promote their new or their upcoming first ever discreet grandpa's connection it's not the first direction and said that but anyway they're starting to promote a new one their new graphics card when do you guys think or your sources say sources that's funny when would it be a reasonable launch window for this new product when will the cards be targeting market arrival i yeah no idea no I'd you're on that one I should this was a heavily up very comment which is why yeah I mean it's kind of seems like 2020 still yeah we don't really have any what tier who knows yeah I mean it's way too early for any of this stuff to be discussed in any detail we just don't know yeah I mean we would definitely expect Intel to be promoting this stuff from well out because you know this is a new segment for them starting to get to be aware that they're actually doing this aware so that when they eventually launch the people I'm just like oh wow look at that you know that people can be hyped about it but certainly I wouldn't be expecting anytime soon yes so we don't speak to Intel too much directly there's not really much representation for them in Australia where they talk to the media and then board partners haven't said a thing so yep not nothing to go on there alright cheesy game from YouTube is asking us all the most important questions here ah a hard brush next how many times did X give it to you while playing Resident Evil 2 I didn't play enough for president fire I planted oh yeah yeah he gave it to me a few times that's for sure alright another quick question here is it better to have 16 gigabytes of memory in single channel or a gigabytes in dual channel for gaming especially if you got Rison that's truly until I would rather have 8 gigabytes in dual channel rather than 16 gigabytes in single channel so you thinking about single channel would be a pretty weird unusual configuration you'd have to have hmm it's more common than you think on laptops though oh that's that's true you know there's big big performance boosts from dual channel there wasn't once upon a time but there really is now so I would rather have less memory but have it in dual channel with more bandwidth okay with more developers embracing DirectX 12 DirectX technology well yeah we'll get to that a moment do you think we're gonna see a return of dual GPU cards in the next two years definitely not no they're dead no general GPU cards are dead SLI is dead costs five dead they're all people get a few people get really upset when I say that but yeah I don't know anyways the issue with DirectX 12 is that it's actually harder to him to implement dual GPU support with sure it's on the developers they can do whatever they want with the dual GPUs they can do all sorts of crazy techniques but it's it's less straightforward because with with DirectX 11 it was just you just use the standard what was it called multi frame rendering technique or whatever was used for yeah yeah DirectX 11 basically that was a driver level feature you could just enable it yeah some games it obviously didn't work but it was a lot simpler to enable that feature for DirectX 11 was DirectX 12 putting on the developers they have to do their own coding it the lack of jewell GPU rigs it's just yeah it's just not gonna happen it was very promising and looked great with ashes of the singularity they did some phenomenal work there with even better use GeForce a Radeon GPUs combining them it was really cool but yeah those guys did some impressive work with the game engine that we just six then two other games all right final question and we didn't actually mention his q and A's but we're going through another another heat wave in Melbourne what is going on every time we do a QA there's another heat wave so it was like low 20s yesterday and it's now that messes yeah getting into the high 30s Celsius and there's no aircon in here so yeah I'm starting to stick to the desk so thankfully we're on the last question but yeah we've been going through a lot of water in between questions and this is another really important question that we've definitely never answered before in the Q&A series what car do you drive daily it's really weird that you guys asked is what cars we drive because we're youtubers so it's obvious yeah I've got a Lamborghini yeah so Tim's only been doing YouTube for a year now so a years not enough to get a Lamborghini but he's got a high-end hour and then two years is the Lamborghini yeah I'm thinking it'll land beginning for the track yeah then making it out he just my daily driver yeah I think it's a sensible way of going about the car thing yep so yeah I've been using mine on the road some not very fuel-efficient and yeah wrap up the miles on my Lambo but seriously I Drive a very exciting diesel Passat so I don't have a master seek so it's not much more exciting so that's what we drive yeah thanks for watching all right and that's it for the February Q&A series two parts make sure you've watched all of them because both of them are pretty good I reckon lots of fantastic questions that you guys asked us both our discord which by the way you get access to our discord if you sign up to our patreon so that's a nice little coke there but also on the YouTube community tab as well some good stuff there on YouTube don't forget to subscribe so I guess that's it we'll be back for another Q&A next month until then I guess we'll see you next time who you bomb Tim again probably the fourth tire I've mentioned this in the in the Q&A series so far and I'm your host Steve see you next time