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welcome back to hard Rome boxed yesterday Steve I guess he sacrificed as much to give you all an ITX 2070 review on the embargo deadline mammoth effort to get that one out on time considering we only got our samples a few days ago if you haven't checked it out yet go back give his video of you and even a thumbs up because if we don't get enough engagement on that video Steve is probably facing a divorce anyway towards the end of yesterday's video Steve discussed a bit about graphics card pricing and how everything is shaping up today with the inclusion of the RT X 2070 in this video I'll be diving a bit deep into GPU pricing towards again find the best value cards on the market as well as to explore how GPU prices have changed since we last looked at them in July so a quick bit of backstory before we get into the numbers graphics card prices have come down significantly since the start of the year when the mining craze was in full swing it was around May that everything started to settle and then by July most GPUs were at their MSRP something that hadn't been the case for almost nine months we're now in October and graphics card manufacturers are facing a different challenge that could affect pricing at least in the United States the import tariffs implemented by Donald Trump the first set of 10% tariffs were implemented on October 1st and that's set to rise to 25% on January 1st 2019 we're now at October 17th so we've had just over two weeks of the tariffs being in place and the good news is the GPU market hasn't been affected yet I've been keeping a close eye on GPU prices around the tariff introduction date and so far the price of graphics cards has stayed pretty much the same or even gone down in some case so there hasn't been a 10% price includes anything like that just yet I say yet because we're only two weeks into the tafs and most manufacturers would have imported and stored plenty of stock before the tariffs came into effect certainly enough to last two weeks I'm still expecting prices to rise before the end of 2018 that's something we'll keep looking into over the coming weeks but at least right now the tariffs have had no in okay so let's take a look at how GPUs are priced right now starting with mid-range offerings unlike in previous videos where we've used typical sales pricing all the data you see here is for the lowest available GPU price on nuoc so the cheapest available card in May the cheapest in July and the cheapest in October typical pricing ranges from this minimum value to around twenty or thirty dollars more in most cases so keep that in mind lower mid-range cards like the 1050 Ti and rx 560 are still sitting well above the MSRP and that's largely down to higher memory prices compared to when these cards were released the 1050 Ti is 21% more expensive and the rx 560 40% more expensive although the rx 560 has come down in price slightly compared to July neither of these cards will be seen at their MSRP again so what we're seeing today is likely the cheapest they'll get as for AMD and NVIDIA is most popular GPUs the GTX 1066 gigabyte is finally back down to the MSRP having dropped in price by 14% compared to July while the 1063 gigabyte is a bit inflated still in July we've recommended the 1063 gigabyte as the best value mid-range card on the market so perhaps consumers have noticed this value and are continuing to buy that card meanwhile on the AMD front the rx 570 is an absolute steal at the moment retailing for just a hundred and sixty US dollars lower than its launch price having dropped 33% in price since July the RX 580 has also come down by 11 percent now retailing for only slightly above its launch price moving into the higher end cards and what we have today are three more cards at their MSRP the gtx 1070 down 5% from its July price the GTX 10 atti down 3% and Vega 56 down a huge 17 percent but the even better news is the rest of the non r-tx cards which are all selling below their MSRP at the moment the biggest discount is the gtx 1070 TI which is currently available 13% below its MSRP and just $10 more than the gtx 1070 the gtx 1080 is also sitting 10% below its MSRP both cards were sitting at MSRP and July but with an oversupply and r-tx cards now on the market prices are looking pretty good for these cheap use and then on the AMD site Vegas 64 has seen a huge 17 percent drop in price since joy now sitting four percent below the MSRP for the cheapest model and when you look at the prices for some of these cards in May there have been massive price cuts Vegas 64 and the GTX 10 atti were both selling for $200 over the MSRP just five months ago while AMD's mid-range cards like the rx 580 were still suffering from the tail end of the mining Crace today it's a much more attractive market for PC builders of course then recently released our TX cards are still selling for well over the MSRP and the r-tx 20 atti in particular is out of stock I wonder how long it will take for these GPUs to hit their aib MSRP s which are a hundred to two hundred dollars less than their current prices with most manufacturers choosing to use Founders edition pricing right now instead and while pricing does look okay at the moment compared to previous months for a lot of these graphics cards it's still worth mentioning that most of these products have been on the market for at least a year or in some cases more than two years for a GPU like the GTX 1080 the fact that some of these cards are only now selling for below their launch price is pretty crazy they should be well under the MSRP at this point but the market has been so horrendous and competitions so lackluster that we've been stuck with high prices for a fairly long time now so with all that pricing in mind let's explore which cards are the best value today we're going to start by looking at assassin's creed Odyssey which is the game we have most recently benchmarked all these GPUs in so we can get some really nice data here we're using 1440p very high preset data here if you're interested in the full performance breakdown check out that performance review that we've previously put up on the channel because in this video we'll only be discussing value graphs so when you look at the cost per frame breakdown it's no surprise seeing more mid-range cards at the top of the charts the RX 570 is the standard value champion here followed by the gtx 1066 gigabyte just a little bit behind as far as 1440p class cards are concerned the gtx 1070 TI is the champ here just edging out the gtx 1070 and both are better value than vega 56 in this title if you want to play at 4k your options are limited to the 1080i or poor value RTX cards the other title we've recently benchmarked is Forte's a horizon 4 which is much better optimized across a range of GPUs and runs better on AMD cards here the standout value champion is again the rx 570 though the RX 580 is also excellent for playing at 1440p with ultra settings we're also seeing vega 56 beat the gtx 1070 to 1080 in terms of value while again the 1080 Ti is the best option for 4k high refresh gaming it's an interesting turn of events because back in July we were talking about the RX 5 ad being roughly level with the GTX 1063 gigabyte in terms of value with the gtx 1066 gigabyte not far behind and the RX 570 definitely not as competitive but today as far as these mid-range cards are concerned the Arc's 570 is the clear value champion at just 160 dollars while the gtx 1066 gigabyte is better value than the 3 gig model and it trades blows with the RX 580 let's focus in more on the higher end of the market with cards suited to 1440p gaming and up here we can switch to using a 20 game average because we happen to have that data on hand over the up end cards you can thank the r-tx launch for that one if you're interested in the exact 20 games we used and the performance breakdown of each card check out our RT x 2070 review we're using the same games from that review in steve's review of the RT x 2070 here used typical retail prices when discussing value but we're going to dial down here and discuss minimum pricing as we've been doing so far because we're assuming you guys are bargain hunters or something like that using minimums does change the conversation slightly so let's take a look at the data using current pricing and our twenty game average at 1440p we see a number of cards provide very competitive value the gtx 1070 TI with its current price 13% below MSRP just manages to beat the 1070 1080 and vega 56 which are all evenly matched with current prices really all our goodbyes for 1440p builds but the 1070 TI in particular with its price so close to the 1070 is the best value having these four cards deliver near equivalent value is also great for those with slightly different budgets on the lower end you can grab a 1070 TI for three hundred and ninety dollars or you could spend $60 more for the ten eighty knowing you're getting a performance increase in line with the price increase and those who would rather go team red for free sync or other reasons can now safely buy Vega 56 knowing it's not horrible value like it was several months ago despite Vega 64 selling at four percent below its MSRP it's not a great buy right now compared to these similarly priced GT X 1080 and it's no surprise to see invidious new RTX cards fail miserably in terms of value the RT X 2070 is definitely not worth buying compared to the 1080 right now and the 2080 can't match the 1080 Ti the 2080 ti is the worst value but it offers unequaled performance so it's really only suitable for those with cash to throw around flicking back to July it's easy to see how things have changed back then the gtx 1070 was the best value buy with AMD pretty uncompetitive with vega back then vega 56 was roughly on par with the 1080 TI 4 value now vega 56 is one of the best value buyers on the market for higher-end cards what about if cards were priced at their MSRP well it's here that invidious r-tx cards in particular the RT x 27 t become better value the gtx 1070 and vega 56 would still be the outright value champions while the RT x 2080 would be a better buy than the gtx 1080 TI and here's an interesting thought experiment what would the market look like if all overpriced cards fell to their MSRP and all cards currently selling for below the MSRP remained at their current price well would be in a situation where the gtx 1070 TI would still be the best value card on the market and the GT x 1080 would be a slightly better buy than the RT x 2017 unless the 1080 falls in price the 28 he would also be a slightly better buy though not astonishing value by any means so that's where at as far as graphics card value is concerned and videos new RT x cards well there might not be anything special when it comes to price to performance especially at the moment when none can be found at the MSRP but there are still good value products out there the rx 570 is the best value at spending ages the 1066 gigabyte and rx 580 are highly competitive and the gtx 1070 TI sewing for well below its MSRP provides decent value for gamers that want to play at 1440p I think that just about does it for this one if you're interested in checking out the current prices for any of these cards let's say you've clicked on this video a few weeks after we've published it links to all of them are in the description below also subscribe to catch our core o $9.99 hundred K in just a few days time you won't want to miss it and of course you can support us on patreon to get access to our exclusive discord chat and monthly live streams I'll catch you in the next one you