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GTX 1070 Ti or GTX 1070, Which Should You Buy & Should You Buy Now?

2017-12-17
welcome back to hardware unboxed now not that long ago I looked at which was the best value buy the new geforce gtx 1070 TI or the existing 1080i did this by comparing to MSI gaming models at their stock operating clock frequencies as well as a custom overclock which basically pushed both models as fast as they would go in short I found that if you don't plan to overclock both models do offer a similar level of value but for those of you that do plan to overclock you will get the most bang for your buck with the new 1070 TI this of course is assuming that both models are available at the MSRP $450 us for the 1070 TI on $500 us for the 1080 right now the gtx 1070 i can be had for 450 dollars u.s. at both Newegg and amazon while the 1080 is selling for 520 dollars at both locations pricing is yet to settle down for the 1070 TI in australia $680 it's not much cheaper than the 1080 s which self around seven hundred and twenty dollars so in the US the 1072 eye looks to me by far the best value option right now while fellow aziz will probably still up for the gtx 1080 anyway today's video is about the geforce gtx 1070 versus the 1070 TI i didn't overclock the vanilla 1070 in the previous video and this had many of you questioning if overclocking that model would in fact be the best value option so today we're going to find out before we do though I should just note that buying a geforce 10 series graphics card right now might not be the best movers we're likely just months away from the release of what will probably end up being called the geforce 20 series i will discuss there's a bit more at the end of the video but for now let's talk about these system specs and then we'll get into the results for testing i've once again used my core i7 87 eric a test system clocked at 5 gigahertz with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3000 memory the msi geforce gtx 1070 gaming ex was used for the testing and I've used other MSI gaming models for comparison the 1070 gaming X operated at 1949 megahertz out of the box with a memory speed of 8 point 1 gigabits per second overclocked I managed to raise the turbo boost 3.0 frequency to 2076 megahertz which is slightly higher than the 2050 megahertz I was able to run the 1070 Ti at the gddr5 memory frequency has also been increased to two thousand three hundred and fifty megahertz for a transfer rate of nine point four gigabits per second this means the overclocked 1070 1070 Ti and the 1080 or roughly overclocked to the same frequency that said whereas our overclock did boost the ten eighties operating frequency by 10% and the 1070 Ti by twelve percent the 1070 was only boosted by seven percent so it will see the smallest improvement of the three GPUs tested as it was already quite aggressively overclocked from factory first up we have Assassin's Creed origins and here overclocking the gtx 10:17 and it's just a few extra frames for a very mild 5% performance boost that said though we did see a decent 9% increase for the 1% low result perhaps the increased memory bandwidth helped you anyway once overclocked to the max that 1070 was still slower than the stock 1070 TI by a decent margin in fact the 1070 to I was 9% faster at stock clock speeds and 21% faster once overclocked so for overclock is the 1070 I was looking like the far more attractive product here here we see similar margins when testing with destiny to the 1070 became 6% faster once overclocked but even so with the overclock it's still trailed the stock 1070 Ti by a 4% margin then once we have a clock for 10 72 I that did become 14% faster than the max day out 1070 again the overclocked 1070 provided just 6% more frames this time an f1 2017 this minute was 6% slower than the 1070 TI and 17% slower once the TR model was overclocked another 6% gain can be seen in project cars - and overclocking the 1070 and this took the average frame rate to 87 fps this means overclocked in the 1070 - I produced 15% more performance as the average frame rate hit 100 FPS performance gains for the 1070 in quake champions were minimal just a 5 percent increase was Sene because of this the overclocked GTX 1072 I was 23% faster though you should keep in mind that it does pack 27% more CUDA cores so this kind of margin is certainly impossible this time when testing with shadow of war the 1070 was 7% faster once overclocked and came within a frame of the 1072 eye of course you can still overclock for 1070 TI and once we do this it does become 13% fastest so one of the smaller wins for the 1072 eye but a noteworthy margin all the same basically we see similar margins to those just seen when testing with shadow of war this time with Total War Warhammer 2 so there really isn't much else that needs to be said here and finally we have Wolfenstein 2 which unsurprisingly shows similar margins to the games previously tested so at this point it's pretty clear how these two GPUs compare out of the box and overclocked the arrival of the geforce gtx 1070 i didn't make the standard 1070 somewhat pointless least in my opinion which is why didn't bother overclocking in the previous comparison though i suppose that was a bit of an oversight as i had to create this video right now the cheapest gtx 1070 on Amazon and Newegg is 410 dollars u.s. though most are priced closer to four hundred and thirty dollars US since the gtx 1070 TI can easily be had for four hundred and fifty dollars u.s. on both of the websites just mentioned it's the obvious choice again the margins in australia are a bit out of whack with what we're seeing over in the US a typical 1070 TI cost six hundred eighty dollars australian while a typical 1070 cost five hundred and seventy dollars australian so while australians are paying about 19% more for the TI model americans are paying at just five percent more according to the MSRP that 1070 TI should cost twelve and a half percent more so this means us shoppers are actually overpaying for the standard 1070 right now while australian shoppers are overpaying for the 1070 TI so in summary US shoppers should be buying the 1072 i really no question about that and for the aussie viewers i'd probably wait till the 1072 eye drops down to or below $650 australian that said though should you even consider buying and you graphics card at all right now unless you're getting an amazing sale price I strongly recommend that you just wait at this point I realize when it comes to PC hardware there's always something better just around the corner so you're always tossing up between waiting or buying now this late in the product cycle though I'd suggest waiting the 1072 eye is an attractive option for those buying a new graphics card in time for Christmas I guess that's one in videos banking on as they try to flog their 18-month old Pascal architecture one more time anyway I hope that answers that one putting the small issue of whether or not you should buy a graphics card at all right now just push that aside I think it's safe to say the gtx 1070 TI seems like the best choice in the 400 to 500 dollar u.s. price range especially if you plan to overclock as you can achieve GT X 1080 light performance while saving enough money to purchase 4400 crystals think of all that glorious loop I'm your host Steve see you again next time
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