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welcome back to harbor unbox today we are revisiting the battle between the horizon 7 2700 x and core i7 87 ok with the geforce r-tx 28 ET i now later this week I will be reviewing the Koro 9 900k and 97 ok for the first time but before we check out those new 8 core coffee-like refresh parts I wanted to do a refresh out with the 87 ok and 2700 X now you might think this video is a bit poorly timed but there are a few things I wanted to explore before we jump into testing the 9th gen core series processors today all of our CPU data has been collected with the GeForce GTX today's UI which is a all good and well but with the 9th gen processes we will be moving on to testing exclusively with the RT X xx atti as that is now the fastest gaming GPU available and we always test CPU gaming performance with the fastest GPU available I've already invested quite a bit of time and effort into this testing having said that though you may be a little surprised to learn that we are only testing with 10 games in this video and for our initial ninth gen coverage of course I will no doubt add more titles to the format in the coming weeks but for a day one review just going over ten titles a little own testing them is a big job and I don't think too many people want to sit through 30 minute video of game breakdowns and I some of you Harbor are box fans will bat for the day one review I want to cover things other than just games so 10 games is more than enough anyway for this battle between the 8700 K and 2700 X we have 10 games that we've selected for the upcoming 9900 K and 97 hurricane review although I'm using the mighty RT X xx atti I'll be showing scaling performance by testing at 1080p 1440p and 4k this will give you a good idea of how these CPUs compare under realistic gaming conditions as well as non GPU limited scenarios also please note for this test I'm not using tuned secondary timings for the 2,700 X instead both processors have been tested using Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ddr4 30 hundreds l14 memory with the XMP loaded the cooler of choice is the corsair hydro series h 100 i pro and for now we are just looking at stock cpu results for the most part we've found overclocking leads to similar performance gains for each cpu so don't expect any noteworthy changes there especially when going beyond 1080p other than that everything else is up to date the games the data Windows 10 display and system drivers I think that's about everything so let's jump into the results first up we have Assassin's Creed origins and in a moment we will check out the more recently released Odyssey so here we see the 87 or okay allowed for 12% more frames than average at 1080p 13% at 1440p and then 8% at 4k I was quite shocked to see a measurable performance difference at 4k that said origins has always run a bit unusually on the rise and processors this time when testing with Assassin's Creed Odyssey we are using the harbour unboxed optimized quality settings for a full breakdown of the settings used please watch Tim's guide here we find slightly different performance trends here the 87 RK was 21% faster an average at 1080p but just 6% faster when comparing the frame time performance so although the Intel CPU provided a much higher average frame rate the overall experience ended up looking and feeling much the same the margin did close up to just six percent at 1440p there oddly this time the one percent low result was 14% greater with the 8700 K then finally at 4k as we'd normally expect to find there's no real differences between the two CPUs moving on a battlefield 1 and here the 87 era K was 12% faster on average at 1080p and 1440p while we again see no difference in performance at the 4k resolution previously we found the 87 era came to be 8 % faster at 1080p using the gtx 1080i so the margins have only increased ever so slightly with the RT x 20 atti it appears that the 2700 X and even the 8700 K are limiting the RT X 20 80 TI at TP so it will be very interesting to see how much more headroom there is an offer here with the 99er ok of course we can still overclock but at the stock speeds the current gen parts need to be tested at 1440p to avoid limiting GPU performance f1 2018 is a reasonably CPU intensive title although the 87 are okay allowed for 10% more frames on average and a 12% boost to the 1% low result with the 2,700 X we were able to keep frame rates well over 100 FPS at all times so it wasn't exactly easy to spot the difference between these two CPUs then at 1440p there's no differentiating between the two as the 87 our cake was just 4% faster once again by the time we reached the 4k resolution both CPUs are enabling the same level of performance with the r-tx 20 atti which saw over 100 FPS at all times now testing with project cars 2 shows very CPU limited results at 1080p and we also see much the same at 1440p here the 87 henrique enabled slightly higher average framerate performance while the 2,700 X enabled slightly better frame time performance moving to 4k any difference in CPU performance is completely removed from the equation and now we see the same frame time and average frame rate results performance in Star Wars Battlefront 2 was very competitive here the 87 era came off at 8% and more performance at 1080p and just 4% at 1440p then at 4k we see exactly the same 76 FPS on average provided by both configurations next up we have Rainbow six siege and here we again find competitive results the 87 era cake was just 7% faster today AP and 5% faster at 1440p very was 9% fast during comparing the frame time data of course as we've seen time and time again for those playing at 4k there appears to be no real performance difference between these two CPUs the shadow of the Tomb Raider results are quite interesting the 87 or K runs away with it for the average framerate at 1080p alone for 26% more frames on average and yet despite that the frame time performance was just 9% higher the margin of course closes up at 1440p and now we see just a 5 percent performance advantage in favor of the Intel CPU and then we see the exact same performance at the 4k resolution so fair to say under realistic gaming conditions you can expect to find very similar performance from both these CPUs with the RT X xx atti here we see when testing hit man with the preferred DX 12 API that the 2700 X limits performance to around 80 FPS whereas the 87 okay allowed the RT X 20 atti to push up to around 100 FPS and this can be seen at both 1080p and 1440p even at 4k the 87 RK enjoyed a 6% performance advantage when looking at the average framerate so I'll Verizon does okay here the core i7 processor is clearly superior in this title finally we have Forza horizon for which isn't a particularly CPU demanding title it has to be said but I've included a nonetheless to show the kind of performance margins you can expect to see in a well-made modern title that's mostly GPU bound as you can see nothing particularly exciting here on the CPU front the 2700 X match the 87 okay or at least roughly matched it at all three resolutions okay so here's the 10 game average the 87 Eric 8 was 10% faster TEP 8 percent faster 1440p and just 2 percent faster at 4k basically anything within a 5 percent margin really is too close to call anyway as we're all well aware at this point the 87 ok is the superior gaming CPU it's just not necessarily superior in terms of value I was really expecting Intel to run away with it more than they did in this comparison with the GeForce r-tx 20 atti of course this is a limited sample and while I do plan to create one of those 30-plus game comparisons now between not just these CPUs but also the upcoming 9th gen models and hopefully I'll get that done within the next month or so I think that will only extend the margin by a few extra percent because you know older games or less optimized games let's say as such a csgo pubsey and GTA 5 just to name a few but there'll be a few other ones they tend to favor the blue team a little bit more than what we've seen on average here I'm assuming a good 99% of all RT X 28 ETI owners will be gaming at no less than 1440p with most targeting 4k that being the case at the same price I'd probably grab the core i7 80s or okay every time it's unquestionably the better gaming CPU right now and will likely remain so for the next few years however right now it costs roughly 370 is $390 us depending on where you shop here in Australia it's more like 590 meanwhile the 2700 X cost just $295 us or four hundred and seventy dollars Ozzy and that makes it 20% cheaper motherboard prices are quite similar you're looking at around a hundred and forty dollars u.s. for the exceptionally good MSI B 450 gaming Pro carbon while a similar qualities and 370 board will cost around 150 to 170 dollars u.s. then there's also the matter of the cooler the wraith prism is a decent box cooler certainly better than anything I can recall Intel shipping with their CPUs and you will see similar performance to what was shown in this video when using the wraith prism the 2700 reacts only runs about a hundred megahertz faster with a better cooler like the corsair hydro series edge 100 i pro that we used in this video a cheap air cooler for the 87 or okay will cost around $30 u.s. so you're looking at spending about a hundred and thirty dollars us more on the intel build which frankly overall really isn't a huge price difference but then it has to be said you're also really seeing no performance increase for that extra investment the extra cause of the rise and cpu generally make it better for heavy productivity tasks but that's not always the case so make sure you check out performance in the applications you'll be mostly using overall again it's a close battle with the RT x 2080 TI and the result isn't that different to what we saw with the 1080i back in july at the time i compared both cpus in 35 games using the TI and at the end of it I admitted that I was torn on which way I'd go noting that at the time they're both very appealing so I guess it's somewhat of a high-class problem at the time I didn't feel for gaming that the two extra cause of the 2700 X would see it nod your head of the 87 okay at least within the next few years and since then I have done a few benchmarks to explore this and that certainly does seem to be the case I did also say though that the Ulua of that glorious 5 gigahertz 87 hurricane overclock would probably suck me in I also know at the time that it really is a tough choice picking between these two CPUs purely for gaming performance but if you are just gaming at the time I I suggested that I would lean towards the core i7 processor my opinion hasn't changed too much but today with increased icing for the 8,700 cage you to supply shortages and whatever other reasons but yeah due to those increased prices I'd probably leaned more towards the Rison 720 700 X now still a close one but yeah I don't know if I'd spend the extra money on the 8700 K now it was always more expensive now it's just a fair bit more expensive now that being said though let me know which cpu you choose and why as always I look forward to discussing this with you guys in the comment section below and that is going to do it for this one at least for now I'm keen to pick this up again when we get the 900 K and the 9700 K and a few other ninth gen core processors later in the week if you did enjoy this video be sure hit the like button subscribe for more content and if you appreciate the way we're doing our box then consider supporting us on patreon you will gain access to our private discord chat where you can ask Tim and I questions directly at any time of the day and we usually get onto them pretty quickly we're also in there just generally chatting with communities it's really great stuff and we also do a monthly live stream actually we do two monthly live streams now and there are also a lot of fun 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