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you know what's weird apart from the fact that I didn't open with welcome back to harbor unboxed besides from that what's weird is every single video we've published over the last few weeks has had at least one comment asking for a Radeon seven retest doesn't really matter what the video is a review on a monitor from team or just any other unrelated content someone's jumped in and requested we revisit the Radeon seven and we've had hundreds upon hundreds of requests over the last few weeks I'm honestly not entirely sure why there's so much interest in a Radeon seven re test since release there hasn't really been any major driver improvements so nothing should have really changed there that said there have been a few new games release that do worker very well with radio and GPUs but again I'm not really convinced that'll change much anyway because so many of you have requested an update I thought why not give the people what they want so today we have a 38 game benchmark covering the 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at Nord VPN comm forward slash Harbor unboxed link is in the video description okay so hopefully you're now safely watching this video with Nord VPN and we can proceed so some quick backstory here the AMD Radeon seven was first released on February 7th and it really is the AMD Radeon 7 you can buy it with sapphire asrock XFX MSI or Sue's gigabyte or power color branding but they're all the same AMD designed Radeon 7 so it's kind of boring so yeah today there is no custom AIB model that straps on a big oversized cooler to bring down operating temperatures as well as the operating volume still the AMD reference design does look pretty good in fact I actually quite liked it but out of the box without any kind of tinkering it kind of sucks like it's really loud and I know you guys are king for me to unnerve alt Radeon 7 and do some benchmarking tuned up for better performance and all that but yeah I'll get to that soon for now I just wanted to get a baseline retest out of the way since for some reason this has been quite heavily requested as for the pricing the MSRP is $700 u.s. and nothing has changed here in the past three months the typical asking price is $700 u.s. and over here in Australia you can expect to pay around eleven hundred and fifty ozzie dollars alternatively there's the GeForce r-tx 2080 and it also has a $700 US MSRP and that's also the typical asking price though over here in Australia it's possible to snag one for 1,050 dollars so down under it's $100 cheaper than the Radeon seven no but I did my initial Radeon 7 mega benchmark video covering 33 games I found that on average it was 7% slower than the GeForce r-tx 2080 and of the 33 games tested the Vega 20 GP was faster by a 5 percent margin or greater in just 4 of the titles meanwhile the RT x 2080 was faster by 5% margin or greater in 23 of the games tested so not a great start for the Radeon 7 and it meant in all good conscience I just couldn't recommend viewers purchase AMD's new flagship gaming GPU and yes this thing has been absolutely pitched to us as a gaming products so let's not pretend that it's designed exclusively for content creators or whatever else people are coming up with apart from offering more consistent performance the RT x 2080 also consumed quite a bit less power and that's a nice bonus not a main selling point but is an eye bonus and then to cap it all off there's literally dozens upon dozens of custom AIB models to choose from and I have to say almost all of which are very good but it's no longer February 2019 its May 2019 apparently that means a retest is in order so I guess let's do that as usual go over the results for just a dozen of the newer or more interesting titles and then we'll do a head-to-head comparison with all 38 games for detailed information on the results for the other 26 games that we won't be analyzing closely please check our patreon page for all those graphs they will be made available for free as usual our course a GPU test rig built inside the crystal series 570 X has been used and inside we have a core I nine nine - okay clocked at five-year hits with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3400 memory representing the green team is the gigabyte our TX 20 80 horas extreme and for the red team well the AMD Radeon 7 the latest available drivers at the time of testing had been used and our results have been updated so I think that's about everything let's get into the good stuff first up we have Rage 2 and here the Radeon 7 and GeForce r-tx 20/80 are very evenly matched in fact we can safely call this one a tie traditionally you would have expected AMD to get the upper hand in a Vulcan exclusive title but with the improvements in videos made to the cheering architecture that is no longer the case moving on we have World War Z and this is another Vulcan title though this one also supports DirectX 11 but NVIDIA has also addressed their Vulcan performance in this tunnel so it's no longer an issue even so this is still a strong title for AMD and here the Radeon 7 was 18% faster at 1440p though interestingly that margin is reduced to just 6 percent at the 4k resolution we also saw recently that the Radeon RX 5 value enjoyed a slight performance advantage over the gtx 1066 gigabyte and apex legends however that's not the case for the radeon GPU in this comparison here the r-tx 20/80 smoked the Radeon 7 by a 24% margin at 1440p and almost 30% at 4k I should note though the margins in this total do vary quite a bit depending on where you test and the section I used for repeatability is admittedly not that demanding so like I said it favored in the RX 580 comparison that just not here against a churring GPU the division 2 also uses a low-level API this time DirectX 12 and again this is a title where the RX 5 are you smoked the GTX 1060 however this time we see again that Radeon 7 is struggling to keep pace with the r-tx 2080 and here the GeForce GPU was 10% faster at both the tested resolutions performance in shadow of the Tomb Raider is very competitive and although the RT X 2080 does offer a small performance bump over the Radeon 7 for the most part the experience was much the same that's it I again have to make note this was yet another title with the rx 580 smoked the GTX 1060 but no such luck for Radeon 7 in its battle with churring the Assassin's Creed Odyssey results are also quite competitive though once again the RT X 2080 does manage to edge out the Radeon 7 this time offering 7% more performance at 1440p and 9% more a at 4k Resident Evil 2 is yet another title where the rx 580 destroyed of the GTX 1060 but here we see the Radeon 7 playing second fiddle to the RT X 2080 to be fair the radeon GPU wasn't much slower but in this comparison it was indeed slower fortnight was actually one of the few tiles where the rx 580 did get blitzed by the GTX 1060 so that doesn't bode particularly well for the Radeon 7 in its battle with the RT X 2080 and as you can see here the GeForce GPU was 26% faster at both the tested resolutions so I guess then as expected a rather poor result for AMD in this title metro Exodus isn't in via sponsored title but even so the rx 580 did beat the GTX 1060 in this one here though the Radeon 7 can't keep up with the RT X 2080 and it's another comfortable win for the green team traditionally AMD has done very well in Rainbow six siege but here the Radeon 7 gets smoked once again by the RT X 2080 as the GeForce GPU was 17% faster at 1440p and 21% faster at 4k and that extra performance at 4k really does make quite a big difference one title where Radeon 7 does get the better of the RT X 2080 is battlefield 5 and no DXi isn't enabled here the radeon GPU was 11% faster at both test of resolution so a good result for AMD Radeon seven also manages to eke out a win in Far Cry new dawn beating the RT X 2080 by a slim margin at both tested resolutions generally though I deem anything less than a 5% margin to be a tie so fair to say they are pretty well tied in this title okay so I have to say that didn't seem overly positive for the Radeon seven but it was just a dozen of the 38 games tested so let's grab all 38 games compare these two GPUs head-to-head in a single graph so we can get a clearer picture of what's going on well then not a lot has changed here three months ago we found the Radeon seven to be 7% slower at 1440p and today it's 8 percent slower despite a few new titles added to the mix World War Z has been a good addition for AMD but beyond that title such as Rage 2 anthem dirt rally to the division 2 apex Legends generation 0 and in particular Ace Combat 7 Skye's unknown have not been so positive you might hear arguments that try to leverage the radio and sevens massive 16 gigabyte vm buffer suggesting that because of the extra memory it's a superior choice for 4k gaming however the evidence that we have here strongly contradicts that argument at 4k the Radeon 7 fell slightly further behind the RCX 2080 and now there's just a single example where it's fast about a 5% margin or greater so at least for now 4k is not the savior of the Radeon 7 let's rewind a little bit here I concluded my initial mega Radeon 7 benchmark video by saying the following as for the Radeon 7.2 much more needs to be said at this point really if you felt our day 1 review was too harsh well upon reflection I don't we reviewed it exclusively as a gaming product as we always do with graphics cards and frankly they're under delivered if it happened to be more efficient than the RT X 2080 and ran really quiet I deem it a worthy alternative but let's not sugarcoat this I'll beat around the bush it's not as efficient it's loud and for the most part it's slower only a little slower but it is slower and if for some reason you think we're Nvidia shells or something crazy like that I would urge you to go back and watch our day one RTX 2080 and 2070 coverage because it was not favorable but the radion seven has managed to make the r-tx 2080 look pretty good in today's climate now three months later what's changed well as you just saw not much really we've had multiple driver releases availability of the radio and sevens pretty decent now but ultimately nothing's really changed so I completely stand by my initial comments made in my Radeon seven review in the mega benchmark video and unless something like under vaulting can deliver well I think it's fair to say deliver unexpected and almost impossible improvements then I'm not recommending the Radeon seven and let's be honest this thing you'd need at least a twenty percent improvement in performance with a substantial reduction in power consumption and a pretty epic improvement in operating volume to justify the need for such tinker II and then let's not forget you can also tweak or tune the RT X 2080 and without much issue you can squeeze about another 10% out of that and it doesn't really have much impact on power draw or operating volume and well that's pretty good given that the AIB models are virtually silent to begin with and I think that's really gonna do it for this one and other guys who are big fans of Radeon GPUs and AMD in general which is always a bit foolish in my opinion they're just companies trying to make as much money as they can but I know the guys that have been wanting me to push the radio in seven won't be too happy with this video but well we always strive to be as honest as possible and give you guys the most accurate information as possible and I just can't in good conscience recommend this over the RT X 2080 for all the reasons we just come and anyway if you do appreciate us being as honest as we possibly can then hit the like button you can subscribe for more honesty and you can also support us directly on our patreon page and that will give you access to our discord chat where you can pick our brain or just chat to us in general and you'll also get access to our monthly live stream that tune myself do together anyway thank you for watching may be an under vault video with this coming in the near future I'm not gonna squeeze that in before Computex but if you guys still think that's worth doing then I'll do it but I'm not expecting any miracles right yeah thanks for watching I'm your host Steve see again next time