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announcement here on the channel because quite clearly the CPU is not a real product that will be coming to market in the form Intel showed it and we're more interested in stuff that you guys will actually be able to get your hands on but I think it's worth talking about this CPU and Intel's announcements because it quite clearly shows the difference between Intel and AMD 's current high-end desktop strategies one company is talking about actual consumer hardware at Computex 2018 while the other is demonstrating ridiculous garbage that to be honest really serves no purpose other than to generate headlines so let's go back to the initial reveal of Intel's 28 core 5 gigahertz CPU during their Computex 2018 keynote they showed this massive CPU running at 5 gigahertz on all twenty eight cores and then manage to get it running a Cinebench multi-threaded workload that produced an appropriately huge score a lot of people went crazy over this revelation and headlines were generated everywhere which is pretty much exactly what Intel wanted knowing full well that AMD would be overshadowing them the next day with the 32 core thread Ripper CPU but when this news hit Steve and I were immediately quite suspicious about how exactly Intel managed to get this 28 core CPU running all cores at 5 gigahertz it was quite clearly not a consumer product and not something that will ever be reaching the market in any real capacity at least at the frequencies Intel is running it out on stage Intel did say the CPUs shown is a prototype and will be released in quarter four but I'll get to that a bit later after in tilted their demonstration various youtubers like Paul from Paul's hardware went over to the gigabyte suite and exposed the Intel test system shown on stage and lo and behold the CPU in question is called using a massive air conditioning unit that's bringing the liquid cooling systems temperatures down to sub ambient levels that's red flag number one then you look at the motherboard they're using it's a massive enterprise board using the LGA 36:47 socket which is normally used for intel's top-end xeon processors and at the top of the board is an outrageous 28 phase or there abouts vrm solution with a huge heatsink and additional cooling clearly capable of delivering massive amounts of power to this prototype cpu and that's red flag number two now when you join the dots together here it's quite obvious what we're looking at as gamers nexus has discussed previously this is just an existing top-end xeon processor like the 28 quart Xeon Platinum 8180 tucked into a board capable of extreme power delivery attached to exotic cooling than overclock to the absolute maximum presumably the xeon chip was also been to a ridiculous degree such that a 5 gigahertz all core overclock could be achieved in fact just a few hours ago Intel confirmed to an and tech that the demonstration was indeed using an overclocked CPU and was intended as an overclocking demo not that the company mentioned that on stage overclocking chips like this using exotic cooling is fine and something we see enthusiasts doing all the time but it's pretty disingenuous to say the CPU is coming to the market in q4 there is absolutely no way we're getting a 5 gigahertz 28 core CPU as either a desktop part or as a server part maybe we'll get a 28 core CPU that hits 5 gigahertz as a single called turbo frequency but 5 gigahertz all core when the flagships zealand platinum 8180 tops out at 3.2 gigahertz all core yeah that's definitely not happening what Intel did at Computex is the equivalent of saying in i7 8700 k is a 7 gigahertz CPU yeah sure it can hit 7 gigahertz as an overclock part on an extremely high-end motherboard with exotic cooling like ln2 but no consumer is buying an 8700 K and hitting seven gigahertz in typical scenarios they will be able to overclock it above Intel's rated specifications but not the extremes possible with Chile's bolted onto the CPU and this is all in stark contrast to AMD's announcement for thread Ripper to their 32 core CPU is actually a real product and it's likely coming to market in August it will be available for consumers they will be able to put it in existing x99 boards and they'll be able to achieve the performance AMD showed on stage after all AMD's demo had their CPU clocked at 3 gigahertz base and a 3.4 gigahertz or core boost all running on air cooling with the wraith ripper we've shown off before that's a totally reasonable configuration for standard users of AMD's thread Ripper platform in fact a.m. these prototype thread Ripper 232 core CPU had a TDP of 250 watts while intel's 5 gigahertz 28 core CPU could easily have been 500 watts or even one kilowatt with the overclock they were using it's not even in the same ballpark Ami's thread Ripper to launch was a reflection of reality a real CPU with real specs that you'll actually be able to purchase Intel's 5 gigahertz 28 core CPU is a pure fantasy for most users and basically this is where things currently sit with Intel and Amy's HDD T platforms AMD quite easily had the capacity to push up to 32 cores with thread Ripper 2 on the exact same tr4 socket and X 399 platform after all they already have a 32 core epic CPU on the market so it wasn't exactly difficult for them to bring that technology over to h EDT they didn't need to reinvent anything they simply upped the number of active dies on thread Ripper from 2 to 4 and bam there's the 32 cord consumer desktop CPU Ami's brilliant multi die approach with the Infinity fabric interconnect makes this jump from 16 to 32 cores quite straightforward the development work on the Infinity fabric is now bearing fruit ripe for picking as incredibly high performance desktop CPUs Intel on the other hand practically has their hands tied as far as HDD TCPS are concerned their top-end core I 979 ATX e pushes 18 cores on the X 299 and LGA 2011 platform basically pushing that platform to the limits in terms of core count their server chips top out at just 28 cause a single massive dye with low yields on a completely different socket and platform at prices exceeding 8,000 US dollars to compete with thread Ripper - Intel is being forced to rip out their LGA 3647 socket from their Xeon server line and shove it into high-end desktop motherboards then they have to take their top-end Xeon 28 core chip that normally retails for $10,000 and possibly push clocks even higher than what that chip offers all while remaining competitive on pricing they're stuck in a very hard place and it's showing as desperation with their ridiculous and misleading 5 gear Hertz demo at Computex this year so I'm very interested to see exactly what Intel does with their HDD t line towards the end of the year and what their 5 gigahertz 28 core CPU actually becomes for consumers we know pretty well what thread reputable providers and actual chip consumers will be able to purchase but Intel CPU isn't going to come close to what they were showing off at Computex this year just needed to get my thoughts on the whole 28 core 5 gigahertz CPU out there let me know what you think about Intel's Computex announcements and thread Ripper 2 in the comments below big thanks to our Computex sponsors for 2018 in MSI and Corsair don't forget to subscribe for more Computex coverage and I'll catch you in the next one you