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welcome back to have one box of all Computex coverage today we're talking about AMD's new risin thread Ripper CPUs as well as intel's new core x-series but before we get to that a quick word about our sponsor MSI once again a big thanks to MSI for bringing me here this year I wouldn't be here without them if you're in the market for a new gaming desktop PC then check out msi high-end core i7 systems right now they're offering a free you play game key for Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon wildlands with select purchases link is in the video description as we all expected Intel revealed its new family of Clorox enthusiast grade processors at Computex while AMD revealed more details regarding thread Ripper so let's talk about the CPUs and make a few comparisons though before we get too far into it please note we don't have any official model names clock speeds or pricing info for the thread Ripper series while the clock speeds for intel's higher-end core i 9 series is yet to be revealed as well so for Intel sitting at the head of the family is their answer to AMD's 16 core 32 thread CPU the eye-watering core I 979 ATX II and I say I watering not because it boasts an incredible 18 cores and 36 threads but because it will set your back $2,000 us the price might seem extreme for the flagship model but Intel's also releasing a 4 6 8 10 12 14 and 16 core model in what looks to be an outright assault on AMD the Zen architecture has clearly a fire under Intel and all this competition is good news for us for the consumer the brand new core x-series includes CPUs based on not just the sky like X architecture but also the KB like X architecture as well all CPUs that have a core count of anywhere from 6 to 18 cores are based on Scylla X while the quad cores use the cable 8x architecture AMD's already fired the first shots with their four core six core and eight core models and we're of course expecting the 10 12 14 and 16 core versions very soon now not wanting to simply just match Ami's core count intel's going one step four other with the core i 9 79 80 XE by hitting 18 cause of course this is essentially a Titan XP of the CPU world so I'm not really sure how relevant it will end up being anyway for those with money to burn is the 18 core model even worth whatever premium ends up costing over thread Ripper and what does all that moolah land you well Intel says the I 979 ATX e is the first-ever teraflop desktop PC processor so I guess there's that you also get a CPU with a truly massive 18 megabytes of level 2 cache so that's 1 megabyte per core and then there's a shared twenty four point seven five megabyte level three cache at this point the operating frequency information isn't known at least the base clock frequency anyway using turbo boost max 3.0 technology a core or two should be able to hit around 4.5 gigahertz but again this hasn't been confirmed for such a monstrous processor you might be expecting a thermal design rating in excess of 200 watts well the good news is the TDP rating has been set and it's just 165 watts which is quite impressive and although that should make Fillmore's quite manageable Intel is still selling its own liquid cooler design for the 165 watt TDP and 140 watt TDP chips the cooler has an estimated retail price of somewhere between 80 and 100 dollars u.s. and it works with some of the previous generation CPUs as well for those of you who can't justify dropping 2k on a CPU there is the core I 979 60 X for the much more wallet-friendly $1,700 u.s. and yeah I kid of course what's interesting here is that this model boasts the same coil count as Intel's upcoming flagship the Red River CPU rumored to be called the horizon 9 1998 X we now know that all AMD Rison thread Ripper CPUs will have quad-channel ddr4 memory support as well as an incredible 64 PCI Express gen3 lanes that's 20 more lanes that Intel's highest end skylake x core I 9 processes and incredibly 40 more lanes than its eight core and six core Core i7 models so it seems AMD certainly has Intel against the ropes when it comes to PCI Express Lanes and I'm pretty sure those X 399 motherboards are going to be quite incredible and well we'll take a look at some of those in a moment so with the eight core Verizon 7 1800 X currently priced at $500 us and the 1700 model which is essentially the same thing costing just three hundred and ten dollars us how much can the 16 core rise in CPU really cost well as I said earlier I don't actually know the price of any of the thread Ripper CPUs but it would have to be over or well over double the price of the most expensive eight core model being the 1800 X to come even close to the core I 970 960 X so that's something to ponder anyway the core I 970 960 X will feature a 16 megabyte level 2 cache which is quite large and again that's one megabyte per core as well as 22 megabytes of level 3 memory supports the same for all skylight X processor so that means we get quad-channel ddr4 2666 memory the TDP is also locked in at 165 watts and again for now the base clock of this model is yet to be announced Intel claims that when compared to Broadway lead ships such as the $1700 10 core Core i7 69 50 X the new 10 core model offers 15% faster single thread performance and is up to 10% faster when it comes to multi-threaded tasks so naturally for multi-threaded workloads the 79 60 X is going to crush the 69 50 X albeit for the same ludicrous price anyone want to buy my 69 50 X any takers dropping down to the low low price of $1400 u.s. we find the core I 979 40 X a 14 core model with a 14 megabyte level 2 cache and a 19 point 2 5 megabyte level 3 cache again you get quad-channel ddr4 memory support and the same 165 watt TDP then we have the 12 core core I 979 20x which comes in at $1,200 us and now we're starting to nudge towards that original extreme price of $1,000 with this phone you get 12 megabytes of level 2 cache and 16 and a half mega lots of level three cache the TDP has now been lowered to 140 watts for this model but you still get quad-channel ddr4 2666 memory support and all 44 PCI Express Lanes stepping in from a 1650 X is the core I 970 100x the new 10 core 20 thread model this processor comes in at the same price as the earlier Extreme Edition models such as the core i7 965 Extreme Edition so $1000 we know this model will operate all cores at a base frequency of 3.3 gigahertz and that's a nice little 10% boost over the 69 50 X that said the new 70 100x does only support a 13 point 75 mega byte level 3 cache and that's almost half that of the 69 50 X however whereas the 69 50 X only has a two and a half mega byte level to cache this 70 100x has a huge 10 megabyte level 2 cache by comparison the level 2 cache is considerably faster than the level 3 so having more should really help Bruce performance quite substantially but we won't know until we test the processes for ourselves finally the 10 core model has been given the same 140 watt TDP rating as a 12 core model we get quad-channel ddr4 memory and 44 PCIe lanes ok so this is where it gets really interesting the eight core 16 thread core i7 78 20x featuring an MSRP of $600 that means we're seeing a massive 40 percent reduction in price when compared to the 10 core model and of course we are seeing just a 20% reduction in core assets this means that 78 20x will come in 20% more expensive than AMD's Rison 7 1800 X and awkwardly almost twice the price as the 1700 model so it could look like a reasonable deal next to the 1800 X but it's unlikely to look too good next to the 1700 it comes clocked at 3.6 gigahertz for all calls but can boost as high as 4 point 5 gigahertz so that is a higher clock speed than rising can currently achieve but whether it'll be enough to justify the price increase is yet to be determined this is another 140 watt part but I should point out that the PCI lanes have been reduced to just 28 though this is still enough for most our users still as noted earlier this is a massive 56% reduction in lanes when compared to even the base model AMD risin thread Ripper CPU now for the 6 chord 12 thread model and Intel has a lot riding here as you probably know the horizon 5 1600 X is considered to be the golden chip of the entire Rison lineup and at just 220 dollars u.s. it's pretty hard to beat that being the case it seems like Intel's not really even going to try bothering as their six core Core i7 7800 X is set to come in at three hundred ninety dollars u.s. that's not really a significant saving over the current six core Broadway leadership which I kind of consider to be irrelevant at its current price so at just 10% cheaper than the 6800 okay I'm not really sure how popular Intel's new 6th core parts going to be any way out of the box this model can boost as high as 4 gigahertz and it has a base operating frequency of 3.5 gigahertz it also packs 6 megabytes as level 2 cache and 8.25 megabytes of level 3 cache again it is 140 watt model with 28 PCI Express Lanes with the six core models still coming in at almost $400 that leaves some room for lower tier models so Intel is offering some quad cores on the X 299 platform the fastest of which is the core i7 7740 X priced at $240 it comes in at the same price as the core i7 7700 ok I think most will agree with me though when I say I don't really get what the point of this model is it's not a great deal cheaper than the 6 core model and yet it only features dual channel memory support and a mere 16 PCI Express Lanes so I guess my question is why offer such a measly CPU on a flagship platform that will no doubt be dominated by super expensive motherboards it's almost a joke that the entry-level thread Ripper CPU will support three times more PCI Express Lanes perhaps even more puzzling is the 240 dollar Core i5 77 40 X which is another quad core part that lacks hyper-threading support so just four threads are on offer here so for $20 more than the Rison 5 1600 Intel's giving us a traditional core i5 I won't bother reading out the specs for this one I'm pretty sure it's going to be a waste of your time kind of like another core i3 73 50 K situation I'll pretty much simply tell you guys don't buy it before wrapping things up I checked out 2x3 99 motherboards over at the Azeroth booth the first of which is the X 399 Taichi and this board does a pretty good job of trying to tackle those PCI Express Lanes with 4 PCIe x 16 slots and 3 M 2 slots as you can see that massive tr4 socket occupies a huge amount of space on the board as do the egg DIMM slots asrock also had their x3 99 professional gaming on display and the core specifications are quite similar to the Taichi board though you do get creative audio on this one and 10 Gigabit Ethernet which is very cool as I live in the asrock booth I also spotted this little sucker a mini ITX X $2.99 motherboard so it looks like you'll be able to create an 18 core core o.9 rig in a shoebox size PC if you want to do that kind of thing this tiny board wasn't light on features either offering six SATA ports 3m 2 ports I know three on a mini ITX board it's pretty incredible there was also a load of USB 3 ports numerous networking options and support for quad channel memory via for laptops tile DIMM slots impressive stuff and I'm very keen to check out these new asrock boards soon so to recap Intel's new core X series certainly looks very interesting and perhaps even a bit confusing they're clearly feeling the heat from Rison and going with an all-out assault by the way the release date for the first wave of chips is the 19th of June and on-hand for testing I will have the 10 core core I 970 100 X and 4 core Core i7 7740 X lastly please let me know what you guys think about Intel's new core X lineup and your take on the prices I'm your host Steve see you again soon guys