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well good awesome apparently we are live tim is just off to my side here making sure the stream is working hopefully we don't have any of the weird audio issues tim's have in the past when he's trying to do a live stream on the channel this is kind of weird because i've been doing this for a few years now with harbor unboxed and I've never actually been live on the channel so we just sort of realized that I do patreon live streams and stuff but I've never done a main channel live stream so this is pretty exciting we're also standing for this one which is kind of weird for Tim and I because we don't normally stand for videos either pennyweight we are standing and we are live and we are building so we'll just wait for a few people to join before we get on with it and start talking about what we're building and why and all that sort of stuff yeah does it seem like it's working Tim it seems so Tim thinks seems so we need the good thing is that we've done so many patreon live streams now that we've really nailed down the live streaming set don't say that do not so you're talking about the audio issues right yeah but the only thing I change is streaming to the main channel so yeah yeah broke I would have been so mad yeah how does it sound guys is it okay can we proceed no no I'm ticking I think people have had ran ticks or whatever he asked Tim is feeling bad I'm not a hundred percent but a lot better today than he was yesterday yeah it's been a bit rough I'm sort of if you've been following us on patreon a little bit in some of our discussion you would have seen some of this set is kind of disappearing because we're sort of a moving house at the moment so to get sick and moving house and have to make videos and we've got this live stream thing planned kind of not the best timing not the best timing so there I've kept them fed long term I've got plenty of power aid not a sponsor to keep me going throughout live throughout the stream so yeah it should be good so as you can see we have PC hardware and we've got basically the same stuff so Tim's build will be identical to my build or it should be as long as we go through it correctly and the reason we're building these computers there mini-itx really small for in fact in mini ITX build and we're doing that for Computex so last well last year Tim and I went to Computex that was the first time I had you as a full-time partner employee and we both attended Computex we used laptops and there are okay there were decent laptops but I think we were limited to 16gb of RAM in them I think mine was only a quad core and we already were bringing monitors with us that's right so we're kind of just limiting ourselves to the laptop form factor even though you brought a keyboard and mouse yeah I both brought big displays so we thought if we can just switch out the laptop for something there's bound to be more powerful with what I'm doing here that's right if you're already taking we took I think we took a 27-inch 1440p monitor each I took a mechanical keyboard a mouse and all that so we basically had all the makings of a desktop setup connected to a laptop and there were 1080p laptop screens which is why we took the bigger 1440p because you can't really edit in Premiere at 1080p it's a night yeah it's pretty difficult so the screens were a big success for us but we thought it'd be amazing if we could have like an 8 core desktop CPU because that just makes encoding the videos way faster so that's what we plan to do this year we're going to make something that'll fit into a backpack so we're gonna take it you know with a carry-on luggage and then for the plane just have like an ultrabook or whatever so I suppose we should probably go through the components we have for the builds and like I said it's basically a mirror of each other so as long as one of us doesn't screw up they both should work pretty well we're saying I'll probably be the one screwing up this so I'll start with I'll probably start with the most important well yeah the foundation is build so it is the the century 2.0 if you guys know much about this the doctors amber cases will probably well we'll have to put a link in the description later but it's IndieGoGo campaign I've got a few notes here basically it's a really small case it's cus it's a crowdfunded case so it's very custom I don't think there's anything quite as compact as this on the market I think it's a bit small and like the fractal node 202 but apparently that case has heat issues this one doesn't and then the Silverstone fortress is he or is it whatever you want to say that's another sort of comparable case but that's a bit bigger again I believe so this is it's a seven liter so it's like console types like your name cons it's like yeah it's like I've seen a few like console killer type videos done with that but anyway it's a very small case it is expensive it's 260 us or 371 or Z but they have met their campaign goal and I believe that means May 1st they will start shipping so if you are interested in getting one you can head over to their IndieGoGo page and yeah look at doing that anyway so we have the case and we have one each one is gray one is black I don't know what color you want well I'm happy for either we'll find and find out what's what whatever we get we get but yeah one is black one is gray I think it only comes in one of those two it's actually good sure the different cars because then we know which one yeah say we've got this which will take out of the box and have a look at in a moment and obviously we'll start building in it mini-itx obviously so we wanted to go well we wanted an 8 core processor or something that was going to encode at a reasonable speed so that sort of leaves us with 90 100 K or the 2,700 X the 1900 can savour Australia and basically doctors ever recommends not using the 99 or okay because it's such a hot bloody CPU so yeah not recommended for this case we could limit it to the 95 watt TDP which makes it run quite a bit cooler but the reason why we didn't go with the 99 or okay ultimately is because it's so damn expensive in Australia so we've gone with the risin 7:27 rx so what was that it was it's eight hundred and eighty Australian dollars for a 99er a case that was going to cost seventeen hundred and sixty dollars for two of them we can get the 2700 X's for four hundred and seventy dollars each so that's nine hundred and forty dollars so it's sixty dollars from being here then watch the price oh yeah we've got them there that's how tray samples come shipped in case you're wondering yep so in the tray yep oh um sort of deal so we should be able to run those hopefully at full spec we'll see what happens there and bridges and whatnot we won't be doing any of the testing or setting up the computers on this stream this will be purely building it we probably do a follow up video where we tell you how it actually goes because it's going to be quite long as it is just putting it together so motherboard p450 motherboard and I've gone with the MSI gaming plus Ostia plus AC so this was my top 5 best B for 15 minute X motherboard so it made sense to use that it's a really good value well priced think it's like a hundred and ninety dollars Australian cut quite remember but anyway it's good value good quality Mini ITX motherboard p450 chipset probably under droppers in - processor in there later in the year if you wanted to maybe maybe that'll be for next year stop drop I can't wait till we get out the CPUs is I'm gonna be sweating not dropping one of those things imagine bending all the pins on the live stream it's because we can't censor the thermal paste application this time if we do it well we only got the fixed camera on the tripod because we can't afford a camera man so well we're building we'll try and hold things up or explain what we're doing but yeah it is nice to be have a top-down camera but we weren't able to get that organized in time second whenever we come back on the channel we might get a few more cameras in Computex 2020 and yeah a lot of people are asking how I've been feeling thanks to all the messages about my sickness as you might be able to tell in just my voice it's definitely still a bit of congestion there yeah but feeling a bit better I was earlier in the week so I'll try and tell you the line by doing a lot of that yeah you hear talking you use some coughing throughout the video for sure maybe yeah well that's sort of that drinking of that stuff so fun times yep and then we have arrow ITX that is a gtx 1660 there video editing rigs so the graphics cards not super important I think this all do what we need it to do as long as it can accelerate a few effects here and there it's fine yep yep it's basically all we get in time this is actually eight mil longer than what they say will fit I think we can squeeze it in otherwise we'll be busting out the dremel we'll see what we can do but hopefully this fits because we don't I do have a back I've got some I've got the Nano Radio and nano so we can use those if we have to but that's the graphics card 750 watt SFX power supply more than enough and we have the h75 course a all-in-one liquid cool that we're gonna try and cram in there apparently the fans won't fit so we have some low profile fans RGB fans from silverstone so i just bought those last minute hopefully that gets us out of trouble we have 32 gigabytes of ddr4 33,000 memory so DDO you have 32 gigabytes of 32 32 is really the minimum for the 4k footage when we reading on 16 on the laptops it was pretty choked up Freddie choked up yeah thirty twos definitely yeah it works with 16 it's just a lot of swapping back and forth and it takes a lot longer to encode and you can't do anything else that you can't even make a thumbnail because the rest of the system doesn't operate 480 gigabyte nvme SSD so obviously we've got a lot of corsair and msi stuff both of those companies are sponsoring us to go to Computex there are a primary and secondary sponsor because we can't afford to pay for flights and accommodation ourselves so that's just how it works but yeah we have some sponsors for competition that's great they sponsored us last year and that allows us to go and cover products from AMD Intel and NVIDIA so that's pretty much I think everything that you need to know I'm not sure how we're gonna go about this build neither of us have obviously built in these cases before I have no idea what the procedure is but because I've done you have you done any mini ITX I've never done mini idea I haven't done any PC building this year okay because I've done I've got a bit of experience with these little ring so I know how painful they can be no idea what this is gonna be a lot like I said but I thought I might try and do like a kind of speed build and then Tim would do a sensible read the manual approach and we'll see what we end up with so yeah I'm just gonna wing it and we'll see what happens I might make some dumb mistakes but whatever it's just gonna be a bit of fun there's no point it's both building the same computer the same way that's not a whole lot of fun if you guys watching so yeah I'll leave all the speed stuff to you go nice and careful I want this to actually work Oh get there in the end I might have to rebuild it four times yeah we good so yeah we'll probably just start getting into probably stop here and there address a few comments and things questions and yeah so we'll start now basically we'll get all this off the table and we'll just start with the case what do I recommend this question from the super chat we've got carnival BSA I use an RX 5 64 gigabyte in the editing rate is it worth upgrading like it depends on sort of your editing workflow it's really hard it's always good on the CPU side you always just say more cores more frequencies gonna make anything life easier but with the GPU really depends how often you use GPU accelerated effects yeah and it can depend as well between are using like DaVinci are using premiere premiers more CPU intensive from what I understand you know different use a bit more GPU intensive yep so it just depends I mean I find for the big game editing videos that at a 1080 Ti or the Titan exercise using before wasn't fast enough okay a GPU is getting GPU limited sometimes where's the 20 ATT I and my current rig is fine so that workflow obviously big GPU is needed but you you end up with Lauren arcs 5 and 80 or so I use Vega 56 56 and I've been using Vega 56 for well since Vega 58 came out and it's been on works really really well so I don't have a lot of experience using a whole lot of different GPUs it sounds like Tim has more experience than I do yeah Vega 56 works a treat all the 4k 60fps footage I even play back at full res no no problems at all so and that's a thread Ripper 2950 X from a 1950 ex that works fine so yeah we'll move this stuff aside so we've got some room I'm just gonna put mine on the ground here okay and we have our doctor's amber century 2 case so I'm gonna see what color I into that with I don't know if it says on the box it probably was I think this is the black one so I was ready to see you guys standing is this the first ever video where we're standing on yeah yeah yeah well it's a it's a few first so for me this is my first time ever live-streaming on the harbor unbox channel which is kind of weird I can't believe that but that that's what it is well it's mostly your internet mostly waves in yeah and stable my Internet's probably fine now but just the opportunity doesn't come up we're probably going to do some live streams next month from my place for the patreon members at least so Tim and I catch up once every month for the QA and the patreon livestream and we're doing the patreon livestream later tonight for any patreon members that are currently watching anyway you get this cool little bag so pretty neat bag and inside is the case and as you can see very slim case trying not to drop anything you know and Tim's got the the grey version so in the bottom of the box here we have all our accessories and things I'll probably describe them out yeah it's very similar in size to my old before I got the new Foxtel cable box for those who knit in Australia yes it's very slim sort of a bit bigger than a ps4 pro I'd say sort of height wise in a bit bit longer this way okay but very compact like to fit this in a piece of luggage like along with all our camera gear like the laptop itself is I mean obviously this is thicker than a laptop but well not much thicker than bonds we were using well that's what I was thinking like it's a laptop is a bit wider as well because to fit in this screen as well so yeah this is gonna be great for fitting inside fitting inside luggage I'm not sure having to fit all that in here so that'll be interesting yeah so that's why there is a screw on either side if we undo the screw it slides apart some we'll find at the moment I haven't watched any build videos I saw poles finish product on his video but I didn't actually watch the build process I think I've got that ups damn maybe okay there we go well that's quite heavy so outside as you go up on you'll work it out I'm not helping you so what's going on so quite obviously the motherboard goes here I think the power supply goes there graphics card would go here and we're gonna try and pick the graphics card here with the 120 millimeter radiator there so okay that's that's going to be interesting so yeah I'll get on with that in a moment nothing better than watching Harbor box at 5:00 a.m. sleeping could be potentially better anyway grab this guy so I have my MSI motherboard beginning + AC looks like Tim's caught up I'm a little bit sick so sir motherboard excellent I think I will start by putting the i/o shield in that's usually a pretty good place to start is you first I always put any right front with the motherboard Ian you put it in after motherboards in I just well I can't forget it if I put it in first that's got to go in so I'll Bend that little tab up so as we said with the one camera you can't really see what we're doing that well so I'll try and show each stage as best we can it's good little board though probably not in focus but you know we'll give it a shot yeah I think the focal points about here yeah I think it was okay that clicked in pretty easily I Oh shield installed hmm where is the yeah so don't know when it makes sense to put the power it's cable extension in and we got some stuffing here you don't use any IGP you encode incorrect yeah that's right we're not using a GPU well we don't have one that's it yeah just what to work super well this sort of the Intel acceleration in Premiere there's at least what we encode with and do yeah it's not it hasn't quite come to the compatibility that we need yet it works for a lot of stuff but just not quite what we do I just saw a comment there saying have we got our Swiss Army knife we we don't actually have a Swiss Army knife so hopefully we'll be ok I do somewhere have one yeah we're just gonna use a screwdriver we have a desk though we've got a desk so I think we've got pretty much the most important things I asked him if we had cable ties Tim said he doesn't have cable ties because he's packed up so that's the other thing too I don't even have any I don't own any cable sucks embarrassing Tim's currently moving house so a lot of these sets already packed up we don't have that much hardware available so easy I packed up a lot of these stuff and some of the hardware stuff is still available over there but oh yeah and if you're a patreon but there'll be a few more behind the scenes videos when we sort of take down this setup in the new place so another reason to sign up I guess yeah when we build Tim's new set we might do that on the main channel so if you're interested in seeing us build a set then let us know more yeah we can make that video happen so I now have a power button so this has to run around sort of this way right this power down that channel I I think so maybe obviously here we've got a hole at the top here for the power connector and then it has to go around that way or probably something like this or this or something like that we know we're doing I think it matters which way around it goes so yeah was that oh okay goes through this way yep no don't don't try no I'm doing okay I reckon they would be these angular of connectors well it looks like it's a camera sunk screw no I'm not reading the manual vote so we're gonna wing it is there a menu actually I don't think they're in the manual there it's online probably they've got some really good digital documentation there's also on their IndieGoGo page there's a really cool which is the only thing I've used a really cool compatibility thing so you can put in what configuration of hardware you want to use and then if you ops use a 120-millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler then it will limit the length of the graphics card to 170 millimeters but we've got a hundred and seventy eight millimeter graphics cards so hopefully they fit we'll find out soon enough I'm just gonna use these screws we'll see what happens is that thread work I'll let you test it so the black ones look to be working there just don't over time because you'll crack the plastic good luck fitting everything in that case it's very tired well pretty much all mm Mini ITX builds are so I'm expecting it to be quite challenging comes down to like every cable makes a massive difference I wonder if this ground cable just goes under the motherboard and one of the okay there's actually a standoff a separate standoff just below it I reckon that's probably what's in this one just there yeah yeah is that what you were saying I was thinking maybe just if this hole hooked onto this little okay speed but probe tip I reckon it's easier to probably screw that in first then do it the way I've done so yeah already made one thing harder for myself so I'm just I'm just basically whatever you say you made a mistake like oh yeah I'm not gonna do that for myself yeah I'll do where's the wireless anti-static Benjy a good point we need those Wireless ones obviously the ribs strong bracelets yeah yeah super important yeah come on Tim's getting ahead of me already this is no good that's in so we now have a grounded power cable which is good and that is connected okay so I might do a bit of a drive fit like what you do when you're tiling so I'll just see how things fit okay oh you put your cape around the wrong way that's falling it's fine there we go so there's the motherboard that's where that all sit I think one of the more challenging things he might be the probably gonna be the liquid cooler but I'll get the power supply yeah where's the m2 slot on that motherboard on the backside is it yes it is so reckon putting the m2 SSD in first or help speed things up so I might do that I shouldn't have told Tim that thing right there wait till you got all them up off that's memory that's not named up to SSD this is an m2 SSD okay you keep up with the comments I'm sorry taking a look here and see this we might have you guys nice so we have the mp5 10 so I think we I test out the MP 500 quite some time ago it's 400 a gigabyte SSD so it'll be fine as a boot drive it'll be very good as a boot drive in fact but we'll probably add some more storage if we can later on anyway this will be fine for the build where is my m2 screwed got it use use the tornado bags it's a tie a little screw so we're going to need to find a tiny little screwdriver so the small ones are the top almost stab you there that's done me easy way to get fired good reviews though okay that is done up I'll leave that for you MDOT to SSD installed on the back of my Mini ITX motherboard so we should be good there I'll sit that back in there for now and I'll get back to my 750 watt power supply okay I've been stunned by that one more than once or at least once anyway yeah it's very frustrating you think you're finished then you got to put the storage in go undo any of this you'd probably have to take a lot out as well it's not just the one component yeah I've seen a few questions at the time here um good to see there's a lot of you us viewers out there with your sort of after dinner late night type times is just about to take over 1 p.m. here so it's still 50 6 p.m. neither of us have had lunch no but we're we're we're going to be hungry for some Nando's I think encouraging me to work quickly you us guys will be like what the hell is Nando's never heard of this but it's like a it's a great chicken joint found here and also I think in the UK maybe there's one or two joints in in the US but Steve you love it I love it to be a bit of a talking point among the the patreon members in our discord chat a lot is about about Steve's love for Nando's will be I think I've worked out how the power supply goes in so far just none of that screwed in but I think that's how it's going to look those power cables in reasonably what are we going to need in terms of power cables well when you put the riser into sort of angle thingummy - yeah I should be right you're right no worries okay yeah is it like KFC I think Oh KFC is definitely more your fast food joint Nando's it's it's still sighs I think it's a big chain restaurant but I Nando's yeah sorry like KFC no not at all okay power while you're figuring out all the layout I'm just going to go straight in try to sing for you in because if you figure out the way out I don't need to I might not tell ya yeah might be easier just it's a good thing I don't have eyes you won't work it out okay 24-pin ATX power connector pretty obvious we need one of those we need an eight pin CPU power connector that's a PCI Express do we need any 4-pin molex for this build I don't think so all these fans got chili networks nah don't do four pin yep I would have thought we might need a solder for the pump I'm not sure making it potentially amazingly we're hooking up the RGB and stuff like this sometimes that needs it as well there's no real need to hook up the RGB mostly because you can't see it in this build really I mean you get a glow I suppose okay so let's plug that in there and so as promised we've got our rise in 720 700 X beautiful the exact one that we wanted and it has actually been doing do not do not drop that no that'd be bad there's 50 on 50th anniversary editions of these right now as well right like you can get one that's signed by Oasis ooh they officially announced those I think as well as the 50th anniversary Radeon 7mn they're not much more expensive than the regular ones so I don't like you have to pay a big premium just to get a signature yeah I mean if if that's something you're into then sure that's fine okay I'm just gonna plug a soldering because if I can squeeze a two and a half inch driving at some point I would like to you're not sure how usually though how easy that will be to do anyway okay yeah you pick up it just falls out that would be embarrassing yep okay continue my standard build method and plus the memory mixed okay and thank you for the super chat for lunch later appreciate my beauty liking to chickens now we'll get around to that thank you very much the harbor box ways kind of you just feed in lunch wherever no set times no the works done always after benchmarking yeah okay well I think I'm gonna screw the power supply in because I think that's I want I think I think it's all set up nicely a vengeance don't PFC as usual well low profile memory yes yeah okay so we've got to use the proper threaded screws I'm just not paying attention oh I've got tweezers the stream is saved awesome excellent and a sticker okay cowboy Corsair it's kind of powered by AMD but it's partly powered by Corsair they're taking a bit too much credit they're good we could have fit much more powerful graphics cards in these builds but as we said it's for editing so there's probably not much point yep that said if MSI had have had like an RT X 27 or something like that we would have happily taken it yeah okay for those of you who just joined the stream now I'll have him didn't see when we went over all the components this is the GP that we are using here yes MSI Aero r-tx gtx 1660 as Steve was saying we're not quite sure where this will fit it seems like it might be a few millimeters too long but we have a dremel so that's fine we'll make it fit oh yeah we don't want to go to the backup cards that's just that's copying out right yeah we'll make it work power tools may get involved that's right ready to go in okay no the arrow is not a blower card I think it is it a while to fan I'm not sure I've actually never used one so this will be at first it looks like it's a single fan but that's fine in this case because there's a lot of ventilation on that top section that will doesn't really require the blower should be able to yeah the hot the whole GPU section I think it's basically ventilated nicely okay we've got a guy giving us some more super chat so thanks to that thank you very much she's from Canada yeah I'd like to go to Canada one day yeah like I've been to the US but not Canada just yet there's no tech events held in Canada is there no I don't think so I think Canadians right get screwed on pricing like we do here even though they're right next to the US which is kind of disappointing yep okay so I think power cord goes in something like that bit of excess to try and tuck away so the question is should I bother reading the important information yeah probably what important stuff is in here okay electric shock hazard oh that's it we're really strong bracelet I'll put my CPU in do not drop it CPU is in so Dodge double they're dropping that now why is this not screwed in is this so I might just put a screw in it because I keep bending it right is yours the same yeah obviously you meant to screw it in when you put this stand or something else in last I've been this side section area yeah I'm just gonna put once and wives I kept bending it out front panel should I do the front panel stuff now probably here's the front panel stuff on this board yep it is a few USBs here I'm gonna guess what's what so we'll see yeah okay yes you need to add in the front USB separately yep this cable just this two on this front edge just popped out the there's two USB Coliseum you've got this cable you need to then run through the system around the power supply is anyone in the comments telling us that we're doing something in the wrong order yet it's good good point people just going over endgame spoilers actually I don't I'm going to see that movie with my wife tomorrow night no now you're gonna get extra space I've already seen it ban anyone that's putting spoilers in there I am already good so there's no point I've seen it well I can no longer read the chaplain oh this is your no that's my sister he's my memory can't wait for the cable management I can't wait for the cable management either that is going to be painful so anyway well this keyboard cross that bridge when we come to it we stop the street so I'm glad this 2014 table what for calcified definitely comes with screws yep mind you anyway was it a nice big bad might have been there I have no I just ripped it all apart didn't pay too much attention so I'm going to leave that there eight ping bring that around honor they've included with the zip ties I've got the cables out the tweezers get it wrapped in sorry using the wrong terminology okay this is not reaching very easily this eight in some I'll just connect it and then see what I can do with it hmm it doesn't really reach around very well okay we'll leave that as it is for now looking very cable managed what am i up to now what would be the next thing to do what's the next logical step probably probably the all-in-one liquid cooler depends on the screws I have a GPU in there yeah here's the little riser PCI Express times sixty an adapter I'll just stick that in there for now you might have to take that out put the card in not sure and the front panel USB three that'll be easy to put in later so I rush that probably the all-in-one liquid cool off his next move all right I think we're doing well we're pretty much done the easy part so far though so I won't celebrate just yet how's the chat going so good I think have I missed any people just shut it looks themselves seems like a good you guys keep doing that well we are trying to concentrate I've only go to sit in there time left before I died from illness yeah Tim is on borrowed time okay so this is the corset h75 all-in-one liquid cooler I've never ever used this model or seen this model before but pretty similar to their bigger units but obviously you've got a 120 millimeter radiator it's fairly compact there's no bulging bits that'll take up room unnecessarily bending the hoses and whatnot will be interesting it'll be interesting that's for sure and that does not seem fun I'm not sure the best way I might put the 6 pin PCI power connector back for now and I'll work out whether how that goes later I don't actually know where the 2.5 inch drives are going this either so I might just pass the SATA cables back and is that either 2.5 inch no but I just put the cable in because I probably want to add one of them if we have room the ability if there is any room anywhere yep so are you gonna read the instructions on how to how to fit this sucker in so there's instructions on how to fit that exact CPU cooler in this well you know a liquid cooler so the cables have to go and okay so they come out right in a PSU so I probably have take the PSU app to get that I don't know I have no idea what we're about find out it's good and a confirm that I have no idea yeah screwdriver I don't know why put these screws you know what I was doing in my house pretty certa now we're coming back out we pull the tree along thank you for the super chat Trin Gilly much appreciated I'll go towards that Nando's wondeful over oh you know end up with a pretty big lunch the way away goin we really need to get nanos to sponsor us the amount of Troy as we talk about stop talking about them I know the chickens good but I've unscrewed the power supply and it doesn't want to come out now it is stuck okay do some cpu cooler testing before I plug in any of the cables I may have read I may regret putting the power button in first as well here I think we should get a counter going for how many times we have to re undo things yeah so that would probably go in man this is going to be tight boy oh boy is that going to be tight so redo the power switch back up I think we could have done our first ever live stream build on the main channel with life just a really standard big tail ATX case or something no we've gone full on hard mode okay Tim's first ever Mini ITX build pretty much there we go power supplies behind of back in I know it's kind of this looks really wrong to me but I don't see any other way for it to fit hopefully that's right I'm not breaking anything yeah try and get the power switch cable back down there but you're right I shouldn't screw in the power supply you shouldn't screw in anything it feels like there's something stuck under the power supply it's a it's a power cable once I sort that out okay yep all going smoothly so let's connect the IR to the CPU maybe take a look at how whether you need to screw in the fan don't give me tips Tim we're not on the same team here ah we're building enemies Tim family friendly show of course yep I just have to call you stuff like a dingus family friendly work yeah absolutely okay so I'm not sure the best way place this for maximum cable squishing well let's go with that okay so we'll have the brackets for connecting that pin here it's pretty cool here in Australia at the moment on a nuts 20 low 20 degrees probably in Tim's garage I get your phone call during a stream how about this come on Tim you meant to get professional I put my phone on silent okay what is going on in the chat right and I think anyone's screaming at us that we're doing it wrong yet so not that you guys can see that well so maybe this having this one fixed camera works to our advantage they can't see us crops as easily I did see a comment saying not enough they're more paste so for those of you wondering Tim might show you in a minute it has factory applied thermal compound so which is about as good as you can get because it's consistent and it's thin so it's pretty good now I have pushed my mounting plate around the wrong way like a complete Degas can you believe that Tim biggest dingus yeah I gotta pay more attention to many too many too much reading of the comments SATA where in Australia are you guys based we are in Victoria except we're at opposite sides of Victoria Tim and I that's why we only catch up once a month it's about two hours drive from my place to Tim's or vice versa obviously so yeah that might work better it's not with this field it's not about what looks the best it's about what Matt you know maximizes space or minimizes how much space you're taking up one of these four cables okay so my CPU cooler he's installed and my cable management so far he's on point and how we gonna get that part in I have no idea I yeah no idea where I'm at here they're not huge connectors on on the you've just got to try to flatten them as much as you can without actually pinching them so it's a delicate game yep so radiator there are pretty sure you screw that in through the grille now we bought some slim fans hit mine so this is a Silverstone fw1 2 for a GB we don't need that anymore actually I can probably get rid of that I do have the I only have one of the nock to a fan so we'll leave that up there that was $10 more than these these we're I think 29 oz eh and that one was 39 something like that anyway I'm not even trying to bother with the RGB to be honest with you I particularly want RG a it's more cables as well if you can't really can we minimize Gables I might even just cut it off right normally I would put it this way to maximize a length okay well that fits I might screw that on to the radiator only problem is I don't have screws to screw that on to the radiator they're all too long so hmm do you have an assortment of screws Tim no I know you you're gonna be bucket of your place about ten big buckets so here is the screw that normally goes through these fans so just a wee bit pokes out except the fan I'm using is only 12 mil thick I believe it is so that is going to go through the fins and that's not really ideal so we could either get the Dremel out and cut or I could find something to use as a spacer hey I don't know about that anyway I'll just gently put one in for now please stop hogging the screwdriver to me so I'll just gently put those in just to hold the fan in place and we'll deal with that problem later so you at least the fan can't fall out now I'm just going to flip this over and mush it down and work out how I want to mount this radiator I wanted us close to that back wall as I can possibly get it it's not the angled connector looks like it has to go in there so that's what I mean thankfully these screws work because I don't want to use large screws you know they don't work the thread is true fine so I'm going to have to use do we have any extra screws anyway not PC suitable screws there's no hmm okay would you need no that's all right I think will be our idea I should have brought extra screws damn it I was trying to make sure we had all the hardware we need anyway that's fine I'll just use these screws for now they're definitely not ideal try not to drag them on your table here cuz it'll scuff them up pretty badly okay I should probably screw the power supply back in but I think I think I'm done with that laughs damn it okay I'm just nipping one screwing I think your motherboard and use the hex head ones or the gray ones I use those top screws they will find the standoff sir yeah for the finer thread okay well I'm going to plug my power supply back in just because and this is still looking like a pretty big mess but I'm getting close to fitting everything in and then we'll do a cable management last yeah we'll do that last error I checked graphics card now this is going to be interesting cuz I don't know if this is gonna fit technically it shouldn't fit it'll be extremely close I'm just praying it fits yeah we'll see oddly this card is longer than the MSI r-tx 27 t arrow by a couple of millimeters yeah at least it was on the MSI website on their spec page so that's a bit of a strange choice so we could probably shave about three mil off the card if we were to cut the plastic there see the plastic around you hmm that's only heatsink though isn't it on the back as well you could shave the aluminum heatsink that starts to make a big mess though you're still gonna take the counter part when you start cutting steel like we can butcher the plastic well yeah but if you start cutting metal you've really gonna take the cooler off so well I put fits it's gonna be extremely talking we kind of knew that ah so this piece off catching up Tim not really you're ahead of me look at this yeah I'm flying look at that mess look at my spaghetti messy it does that did you take yours fully off teacher yeah it comes fully off I'm just gonna leave my uh we only were hinged teams I'm huge do everybody yes I went why I kind of square well that's not in yet that's just kind of butchered in but no no that if you remove the plastic shroud that will probably or might be bending the plastic a little yes oh I think I do have to take this off it's not minty it's not going to do what I do that holds in the GPU a little bit okay well it's kind of going but yeah they'll be some bending in there that looks like it seemed kind of kind of flexi there's some flex in the face baby don't think that's advisable but anyway like my cards um it's got whatever the opposite to GPU saggy yep that doesn't look good at all but at least I can change that fan easily yeah the the PCBs bent quite violently they may pretend that didn't happen hopefully it still works moving on it would be wise to definitely trim the end of that that card off that does not fit correctly at all I won't do that when I get to that part you're gonna get the dremel a tire or dribble down love it love it a little bit of modding so hopefully mine turns on and works okay I didn't hear any cracking so we should be good that's my rule as long as nothing makes a cracking noise you're all good no idea I'm gonna get that PCI Express power connector in but I'll just put one screw in each end and we'll we'll work that out later okay so there's my super straight not bent to buggery gtx 1660 I wish it was a 1650 I wouldn't mind punishing one of those anyway it is what it is and it is bent yeah well moving on a plant doesn't have a back plate would have been a lot harder to bend it so I do do need sila power is suspected connected um I'm just about finished so somehow I have to get this into the top of the graphics card yeah to the top yeah well if it's on the back we're really screwed so tops the only option I'm not sure the best way to reroute this cable though over the back of the graphics card wouldn't block as much air flow it won't look pretty but it won't block air flow something like that and then I'm gonna take this back off cuz they're right no it's gonna be so bent so bent only this car can be bent so many ways that won't know what's going on anyway sometimes yep these tables in place someone said that is very small any real airflow well the beauty of this case is it uses the components cool themselves like the graphics card just draws air in straight from there sure exhausting that air may be difficult the AI oh it's got a pretty pretty good set up you could open up the backside of the case there to let the air out a bit better but it should be okay should be okay okay what's not going to be okay is what I'm about to do that's definitely not gonna be okay hmm these cables are a bit of a liver mess all right no idea how this is gonna work somehow I've got to get this in here which will be the easy part so that's in there now I have to bend the cables back in limbs back on themselves pretty much right away that's how it appears to better get this on I might just like this bracket do the bending for me see how you did you have the cables cutting at the top have I got this around the wrong way okay why is it not going back in for me oh okay there we go this is not going to be easy no nothing's lining up anymore okay yep I'm glad that's open that's the best I can do there okay well it's not pretty but it's in there hopefully it works okay so I'm pretty much up to sorting all these cables out and you know I think Wes I'm forgetting something which is quite possible well I can't do much about the PCI Express power cable that's just that's that I'm just having it permanently just hanging out I don't know what I honestly don't know what to do about it so really doesn't look like it nothing at the moment so the 24 pin cable I'm gonna try and deal with that first tip and I can just sort of push that down around the power supply so good luck instruction manual time so that presses down there fairly well not really that well but it does I'm just gonna rerun the 8 pin through there okay the eight pins causing me the most trouble but I think I've just about got it mmm I can't quite get it around the top of the memory so that's okay to be a little cramming oh yeah mmm I wish there was somewhere I could cram this SATA cable in but there isn't really so that all of a liquid cool has kind of taken care of itself I have no idea I'm gonna get the case back on I'm kind of thinking that'll be a challenge [Laughter] we just need to put this into a fan hit up any do at this point is just for monitoring okay connected that up where's the pump header on this floor I don't know if it has one well it doesn't actually matter cuz it's got the 17 power so this is my fan connect that up to the CPU fan head up connected uh-huh that cables about five times longer than I need it to be I'm not going to bother with the RGB I don't think especially since I kind of am a fan correctly drew though not having the right screws on hand so we'll just shove that in under all the power cables and forget about it and we'll do that with the same with this excess here so how is it looking I really don't like the six pin cable but my cable tie all that stuff in but that's kind of where I'm at so it's looking okay might bust out a few tweezers here and see if I okay it'll tie down this do we have a monitor so we can actually see if they power on before the stream ends lg1 over yet okay cool I can't wait till Tim puts his graphics card in tell me awesome well I'm just got a CPU cooler on so I'm unhappy with myself at this point do you have any army pliers or pointy nose really no cuz cutting cable ties with that's dicey as you're gonna hack a cable in half anyway well I'm just gonna see if that works I think let's see if I can get though the case that's where I'm at normally I'd spend a bit more time but I just might see if it works here it is this is what I'm looking for I'm interested to see how that graphics cards getting on so this is a massive problem getting that the top of the graphics card you know if there's a solution for that but I don't think I'm gonna get the case over that I don't think there's anything we can do about it don't know if anyway in the comments knows what I can do about that but yeah that's not that's my problem the cards too tall is there taller than normal yeah it is yeah it is stupidly maybe enough to give a backup card no I want it to work what can we do here yeah the cases are very expensive two hundred and sixty us or three hundred and seventy Australian so yeah expensive hmm how am I gonna get this case back on so yeah the graphics card the MSI car we've got for whatever reason MSI is made their their Mini ITX cards taller than what standard by about ten mil that's causing us major issues and there's not really anything we can do about it there's not a lot I can do there's just no way that's going to go on so that is the problem with these Mini ITX builds they can be a bit difficult there's just no way I'm going to squeeze that on there do we just apply a bit of violence and see where we end up super long long boys yeah we could cut a hole in the case there man that graphics card is getting so bent it's crazy that is that's no good definitely not gonna happen so I either hack the case or I get a different graphics card how frustrating yeah that's that's pressed down as much as you can possibly like that's solid as a rock now you can't press these cables down anymore it's about three mil yeah two or three mil and nothing how easily you guys can see that on the camera but that is my roadblock right there so hmm the other question is can you shave the connector as in like the connectors preventing the cables from bending further so I can because the connectors only plugged into like you know we don't really need all this shrouding there how much can we shave around the edges of that connector that won't work you'd have to modify it you have to put the character on the back of the card or something probably not worth the time and effort I don't mean I'm in the plug it goes yeah you've got it you'd have to shave the end of the plug and the connectors off and then the rim around the top to make like a low profile it's not yeah well we're just turning on the top bit but obviously you still want to go further into the socket as well so you guys shorten the pin length as well there's two hmm well I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and change the graphics card is that's it one do I have in here these aren't the correct boxes for so that is a gtx 1053 gigabyte so Tim can have that and this is a nano so the connectors in the back of that but the cards so short and I think it'll matter let's have a look yeah that'll be fine that's way smaller all right well that sucks but ultimately for an editing rate it's not really going to make any difference but it would have been good to use the cards MSI supplied so this is the fun of building mini ITX systems if you if we had a bit more time to gather the parts and whatever I would have done a bit more research into the graphics cards I have no idea these cards were taller I sort of just had to go with whatever MSI could get us in time and this is all they could get unfortunately it doesn't pick me over trying it this bent thing back here oh yeah this card is so relieved to be out of there it looks like the bend was not permanent that does have a little bit of a wave in it but that could just be from the cooler so time for the do-over got this little sucker so we'll put that in there cables go in the rear of this card rather than the top don't know why the cables such a mess here but anyway and Tim's is power cable loose so that's good because it's only a 1050 actually I can run the cables through here now because that cards so much shorter so the Nano is very mini ITX friendly I was designed for yep getting the sniffles mate yeah a little bit appreciating your narration job so I don't have to do yeah I'm doing my best to just talk crap the whole way through this stream so so my voice doesn't it yeah crap it on me well we're still going to do a Q&A at least a two-part Q&A after this then at least an hour-long patreon livestream and Tim will do a favour talking for the patreon livestream so we've got a lot of work to do today yeah it's pretty crazy but we'll get it done alright I've managed to somehow get that through yep that is through okay still an absolute mess but it is through what's going on in the comments I need to make a short rx 570 yeah basically we just needed to do a bit more research on the graphics card you know this you know like do you want to do a live stream build I'm like yes then I got sick and but I don't have to do any other work yes yes all right well I think that's in that fit really easily so big win there for the radeon GPU it fits by a mile too much free space now we haven't sacrificed anything in the vram department so they weren't TI's were though they were just 1660s all right there we go so plenty and we've got probably 20 or probably 25 mil of clearance at the top there now because the cable comes out the back it kind of goes over the fan but I reckon I can probably bend it I've never used the word Bend so many times in a PC build before it's not the sort of thing you don't usually associate that with PC building but in this instance we definitely do so there we go look at that that's all right there's my dodgy fan without the right screws but if that was screwed in wait how are you not able to get the screws in because they're for 25 mil thick fans not 12 so you'll go into the fins you'll verge the crap out of your radiator don't do that mmm we'd have to take this whole live stream down if you did that now this is definitely not a build guide people do not do not build how we're building take more care okay if you have to use the word Bend more than more than once or possibly even once then you're probably doing it wrong so that goes that'll way okay all right gonna get the liquid cooler hose away from the top of the power supply probably should you use the tweezer there I think I'm at work okay the case squishing things down is part of my cable management strategy if you haven't noticed in there has a gown Tim yeah I'm so glad you didn't put those screws through the fins they are the rad all right where are all my screws there we go with your screwed did you screw into that yeah you screw into the second knot you managed to get into that very back row screws that's good they're all talking amongst themselves our plan has worked nine nano in 2019 for gaming it's well it depends it the GPU is more it outweighs the vrm buffer so if you tweak the quality settings and whatnot it's still pretty good but if you want to use ultra and stuff and like games like shut off the Tomb Raider or as it's known in that game highest quality preset you won't run into problems the the stack together the standard screws work just fine oh yeah so I'll do that up a little bit Tyler so this case is a bit like me it's got a slight bulge on each side no dramas we get by well there you go mine's done it's a heavy little sucker very heavier which isn't surprising given what we got in there so I'm glad I brought those spare graphics cards because this would have been a bit of a disaster without the Nano so I you didn't mean these screws you meant yeah I use them oh no sorry I didn't nice I used the power I borrowed two from the power supply yeah so don't put it down and drag it on the desk cause it'll leave a good mark so there's mine no idea if it works no idea if the power button is even in the right spot because I guessed yes yeah it might work it might not that's that's part of the fun oh I forgot the USBs you're right damn it does it well let's see if it works first before I take it all apart so to actually grab the monitor yeah yeah I'll do that because I'm pretty certain this thing's coming back apart not just for the USBs stupid USBs I knew I'd forget them so am I using this tiny little Marty here 32-inch okay is that in shot yep that's in shot okay I need a palpable wooden some power cables few power boards rather place do we have a DVI or well either I'm sorry DisplayPort or HDMI DVI oh there might be is there an issue my living room I've got to be super careful not to unplug the screaming system here that idea I pushed in that would've been embarrassing we're still up and running yep no usb3 hitters not don't need front panel USB three I did that deliberately because there's there's four on the back of the board that's all I need it's fine Tim just ran away left me by myself um yeah so hopefully this works hopefully but yeah the graphics part was a bit of a shame if it was a bit shorter or standard size it would have fit real easy lengthwise it wasn't great but it did fit but yeah definitely 170 mil no dramas but I was 178 mil so that extra 8 mil made it difficult but as I said ultimately it was the height of the card so as you can see the standard height would see the card end there so it's a good 20 properly mil taller than it should be which is kind of a kind of a bizarre decision there by MSI because they could have that well the reason they've done it is their heat pipes come out the top of the heatsink and come back yeah but they could have easily done it underneath because there's you can't really see it with this thing apart okay so there's the card and you can see the extra PCB on top and you can see that the connector is very close to the top of the card if they had of offset that up a bit further down it would have fit we would have got away with it basically if it was another 10 mil down and looking at the PCB design they could have easily done that but as I said for most cases this will fit no dramas so can I go too hard on him aside for that one here's the cooler and you can see this big single six mil copper heat pipe could have easily come out the bottom of the card run along there and gone up that way and it would have made the what would even that would be about the same length but you could have made this shorter and then they could have made it a more compact car instead of making it taller so I've noticed MSI's sort of go tendency to make cards triple slot that really shouldn't be triple-triple slot or cards like this Toula and they really need to be anyway probably should have done a bit more research so ultimately that's my fault where did you put that display Paul you gave it to me yeah you put on top of the screws did you flip the PSU switch before closing the case ah where is it yeah I did it looks like it's flipped from factory at least that is the tin did you flip your switch turned on about the LED and everything right excellent guesswork looks like it's posted what's going on did everything pop up on the screen I didn't say no signal mmm well that is disappointing but it did something do you come up yeah I think it was just the I'm just saying if there's any clues in chat ah that is so embarrassing what nothing I definitely didn't plug it into the motherboard and not the graphics card I'm trying to a debate team here otherwise you could take me another hour to get this working okay I think I think we're in business now that I've got the cables and the right holes come on yes Safa team i won now all I need is a keyboard so I can see if it's idling at 80 degrees or something crazy like that but yeah I think I think we're good it's just cycling new by us we're all good all good I'm gonna keyboard laying around anyway No Oh found some replacements for our power supply screws on the outside but fewer yep actually I might sit around this side for a brief moment just I can see what you're doing so as it turns out I've just got to take this apart to put in my front USB that's it yeah I'm kind of annoyed we are in the bought ups that's what do you want don't like how do we get rid of that message cpu type 29 that seems pretty good for idle that's probably a cup probably 23 also degrades in this room um cool it was is there an easy way to get rid this message Jim which one I'll just press the there's a direct I'll just do it there's a direction yeah how's the fan noise I don't know how all the guys can be a bit so far it's very quiet but it's only an idle of course Betty bybel that's almost silent it's good very very quiet cool possibly need to update the BIOS on this thing not sure 780 yeah I'll configure that later main thing is it turns on its you're all happy I'm pretty happy yes sir I'm smashing the Nek you're right Jared I was going for the Nek like my life depended on it why what's the clicking the clicking was the mechanical keyboard which has blue switches by the sounds of it or a look of it yeah I think the idle temperatures fine but yeah at a later date we'll do a follow-up video where we stress both systems and see what temperature's we get and all that sort of stuff we won't be doing any overclocking on these motherboards because mostly it doesn't really make sense to do you pay for your monitor testing equipment and software um the Hardware year the software there's an agreement that we have with Kalman who or spectra Cal food makes Cal man and yes so don't end up having to pay for that which is good because the software cost thousands of dollars about the hardware year yeah I used to the GTX 1050 how powerful so this is a CL 15 kit so if we back the timings off a little bit we should be able to get the frequency up if it's worth doing mr. power connector Louis okay that's one extra cable I can get rid of from here PCI pivot GPU you don't eat it oh yeah you don't I you could probably well you can is it hard to get back enough you pull it up not really let's find them I do need well I just hit that memory it's a 3200 and it's at least it's got into the bass don't know how stable it is but it works at 3200 CL 15 pretty good pretty good it's not super high end memory or anything like that but yeah I think it's pretty affordable actually though it is a 32 gigabyte kit so it's 2 16 gigabyte modules do liking everything in at this point we that all how you dealing with screw are you just leaving this I'm just leaving low for now I'll get some proper screws later because I don't want to screw them in any further yeah and I cheated I'm not done yet we mean I haven't put the front of these cables don't make my mistake hopefully after I plug these and still powers on have one of those three bottles on the background looks like protein stuff yeah it's Tim's protein shakes it's a it's Powerade Tim reckons it helps him when he's feeling sick so whatever works Tim whatever works I'm glad Tim was able to do this stream today because it wasn't looking good yesterday we had planned this for Monday yeah no one would be sick for but yeah Tim has been the sink so that didn't happen I might take a timely cable tie some stuff as well while I've got it open okay so this goes in here I'm actually got a bit of spare space over this side of the case you have to do this last because I don't know how well you guys can see this but there's the power cord into the power supply and this sits right behind it so once you put this in you can't get the power cord out of the power supply more you have to take this out so make sense to leave that to last you just screwed in my power supply whatever sure is blocking the path yeah it is okay there we go now I've just gotta try and hide this cable a bit better I'm gonna wrap it around this area because it goes in just here at least it's in a convenient spot on the motherboard the USB 3 ever and I gotta try and Bend that cave with that break and the connector seems convenient the cable is pretty long the cables far too long but there you go that wasn't too much effort done so now I get the lid back on test out those ports work or at least gives power to a thumb drive or something I was gonna I was going to tweezer those so let's do that now I don't have anything safe to cut them with Jimmy scissors or anything I really want to use their new around here and they got any scissors screw up a point for okay we're getting there guys how do you install should I probably look at these what oh okay this can be installed oh yeah well yeah just click seeing right and then you can tighten it I don't know I think so does it ever school in the other side no it doesn't it's just a pin someone is having some car troubles at the front ot misplace yeah I'm gonna go with that that'll work it makes sense if I had to reinstall this about six times forget it right yeah Tim's getting there I've got to do tables now that's it everything's okay to some degree what am I looking for where are those little screws go on you know I'm saved a little bit of actually I'm actually a decent amount of space in between hearing between the cooler and this graphics card so I can yours look sweets feed some cables up there for need some need some management space in there benefit of having this slope GPU in here my case door went on bed up the second time I think I've compacted everything in nicely now everything knows where it belongs all right there we go we've got our feet on we've got a USBs I've put them down the bottom you could put this either way really graphics card a top it's looking pretty good I think think I am done I might clean up a bit of this mess and then I'll read some questions or comments yeah this is my new personal laptop okay I kept from tech showdowns in here how's it going care hope you're doing well and he's busy with his new channel cool I'll just put all of this stuff in this so now there is a bracket for the graphics cards announced a bit better but yeah there's only two phase four isn't it yeah there's probably one down there under that expansion okay so I'll go over a few things just quickly for some other guys that wondered why we're using the 2700 X and not the 99 or okay and I'll rewind back to the stats these are going to be editing rigs for Computex the last few years I've taken a big huge workstation laptop it's been so big that it hasn't really been practical to use on the plane so I've taken my razor stealth thing cuz that's much better for watching movies and doing whatever you do on the plane so I've had to take two laptops anyway Tim and I take a 27-inch monitor because it's nice big has a 1440p or 4k resolution the laptops were usually only 1080p and 4k or whatever on a tiny screens not great so last year we took a mechanical keyboard a mouse a 27-inch screen and then a big workstation laptop and I thought it'd be and the Lapp my laptop was only a quad-core with 16 gig of ram so it was pretty crap for video editing pretty crap for encoding and I said to Tim last year I'm gonna build a mini ITX rig next year with like a 8 core rise and or something and bring that then these cases arrived and I thought I'll do that and then I was tossing up do I get a 9900 K or 2700 X basically they don't recommend using a nineteen are okay in this case because it runs so hot of course you can limit it to the 95 watt TDP and then it should be okay but you're sacrificing a lot of performance there in the end it was like do we go 2700 X or do we go nighty-night okay and for us the ultimate deciding factor there was the fact that we could basically get to 2700 X chips for the price of one 1900 K so it was like $60 extra for the 2700 X's over a single night diner okay so we just went with the 2700 processors because if we have to limit the 1900 to the 95 watt TDP these are going to be as fast or faster anyway and when it comes to encoding and all that basically when they're both fully Unleashed performance is very similar so it was going to cost us seventeen hundred and sixty Australian dollars for two nights not hurricanes or 940 for a pair of 2700 X's so we went with the AMD CPU and probably going to be a smarter choice for this system anyway we also get the B 450 motherboard so if we keep these for Computex next year we could probably put as n 2 processor on there and get a bit more performance so that's why we went with the AMD processor no other reasons really so that's that any questions or comments about that alright so here you put them in the correct way Jessie right correct way guessing I think I still know what they were yes Pier one how dare you be budget conscious I'm a really good probably an even more sensible combo if this if you're only doing a live video editing would be something like a rise in 5 2600 X or even a 2600 for the 65 watt TDP that would be really good as well but we thought just going the 2700 X why not get those two extra cores and there will it will speed up those 4k renders that's for sure what is the next unboxing boxes I don't have one scheduled at the moment because I have nothing in one box so unboxing boxes is one of those things that really obviously need things to unbox and the last one I left too long and I had too much to unbox but right now I haven't really had nothing interesting come in so yeah I mean it could happen in the next few weeks if I get a heap of stuff come in or it could be a month or so but I'll do it as soon as I can because I have fun making that series and a pretty slow period at the moment it's very slow enough to to compute X yeah so that's yeah it's it's hard to do an episode when I don't have things to take out of boxes ah gee the comments are coming in pretty quick wait for rise in 3000 yeah at this point if you were paying for all this stuff and you didn't have to build it for Computex and it makes sense to wait till after Computex to see what gets announced and and then obviously wait for reviews to see what what's what basically in a few months time it's almost certain you'll be able to get something much better for similar money Steve what do you think of the 2600 x4 1080p video editing the 2600 X will be fine for 4k the the editing part doesn't matter so much it's more how long it takes to render encourage the video but for video editing it's perfectly fine it's pretty much identical of the 2700 X as far as I'm aware unless you do a lot of maybe warp stabilisation kind of stuff the extra cores will probably allow you to do a few other things while that's taking place what else we got here I'm not actually sure where we would fit maybe you could like do some sort of mod here or something or maybe they've got something planned actually you can screw in a two and a half inch drive over the back of the graphics card there so we might better get a two terabyte SSD on the back of the graphics card for four videos what else we got here yeah I am for socket that's AMD have said that the am for socket they said this when they first released the original horizon series the horizon 7 1800 X and in 1700 they said they're committed to the a.m. for soccer until at least 2020 I believe they'll keep using that socket till ddr5 comes along so yeah and I know there's been a bit of controversy with support for the upcoming Zen to process on existing 300 400 series boards but really there's no reason why they shouldn't so I think we will see and I think most of the biases from a soos and gigabyte and I think even as Rockets started rolling out so support there shouldn't be a problem man you guys are so great thanks for spending time with us hey you're welcome you guys are so great for watching us so I think it's more on you guys but anyway we're more than happy to do it it's a lot of fun gtx 1650 is garbage because of the price yeah I mean well yeah garbage is a bit harsh but it just doesn't make sense at $150 u.s. it doesn't make sense for the argument people make for using it and OAM systems and whatever a hundred dollars it's a to be a great product that's a 33% discount basically to be a good product yeah yeah a company replaces for you don't think I have any that's fine it works mine's done so I'll change those screws later we don't have to give it 100% just prove it works are you gonna take this after this what my system your system my system why yeah well if you're gonna change the screws I don't have any so yeah I can take it and I'll bring it back are we doing another live patreon livestream before we go to Computex we would be wouldn't we I think so yeah I was gonna put this on it I think I'm done all right all right fillet it works ah there we go you still like the be 450 gaming Pro Cathy I missed that comment and I can't scroll back up but yeah I still like the MSI be 450 boards if that's what the question was they're still pretty much the best going around what else we got here I'm trying to keep up you guys are typing too much stuff Steve was correctly harsh on the 1650 yeah I mean I didn't want to bash it for no reason but just price to performance it doesn't make sense and I think the main takeaway there is if you're building a new computer or you're upgrading a relatively new computer then it just doesn't make sense to get one it's it's that simple really and as I said if you're coming to market with a product to replace a three year old product it kinda has to be better in more areas than just one especially if that area is just power consumption I actually have an under vaulting rx 570 piece coming up so yeah I could get pretty close to the efficiency of the 1650 with that three old card that was pretty shocking but I'll have that on the channel probably next week yeah Tim's in the process of moving as we sort of said a lot of these sets packed up he'll be packing up pretty much the rest of it the next day or so and then Tim will be getting out content as he can but of course he's moving house rebuilding a set so that's gonna slow Tim down a bit so the channel probably won't be doing a video every day for a while yep reviews that the only one Steve brought up to tested pay so you've got a review of that coming mm-hmm by request of you guys by this Kay said what type of GPU we're going to put me Steve well we were putting GTX 1660s in them the 1660 is a good value GPU I'd quite like it no problem with that one we were using it mostly because that's all MSI had available for us in the region so we thought yeah beggars can't be choosers but yeah the card turned out to be too tall so as sort of a makeshift make-do situation at the moment tim has a three gigabyte 1050 and I have a Radeon r9 nano so the system works with those and it probably won't make too much difference to what we're doing but before we go to Computex we'll probably give these cards back to MSI and see if they've got something better for us and we'll go from there and we'll do an updated video on how these systems handle with the new graphics cards maybe we'll get the same model we'll probably try and get two different models and see Andy a video I reckon yeah we'll work something out but that should make for an interesting video on the channel in the next few weeks yeah so I think I'll give I'll be giving this to you so you can sort all that stuff out yeah well I'll take care of a team oh yeah my final system you can see my cable management here is is that fantastic as you can see the I like the this spaghetti section here I'm a big fan of this spaghetti just connectors flying around the place that that's all fine obviously and then yeah just gonna try and try to do the usual squish method yeah yeah after getting the trick is to get those around so you want a cable tie then there if you can't makes getting the case on the cable ties obviously yeah tweezers yeah yeah yeah sorry get your toys as going yeah Tim's cable management is better yes it's better look when you see a nice bowl of noodles this is what I was going for here I want the noodle look go when we put this we'll have to do a comparison the mine's definitely better than that of the moment I've got the 24 pin cable stuff down there yours is just over the seat I'm genuinely upset about that comment what's your opinion about the asrock fatality k for gaming be 450 regarding overclocking I don't require I think it's quite fine for overclocking probably not the best board the MSI's it's been pros better it's interesting to me that there's this Vatel section that is meant to come in contact or very close to contact with the aluminium backplate of a graphics card two helmets to help use this as like a heat spreader I thought if you wanted to put the the SSD say here this is going to stop you from doing that true true it'd be good if you could remove it because yeah that said the SSD would get pretty baked even the non RGB ones to get baked when you wait because the back of those graphics cards gets mighty hot especially the higher end ones the backplate what dude one is like some sort of site er to end on to type things so you could sort of swell it like there another MDOT to because this board on years one right you could quite easily fit one there story yeah I don't know ribbon cables with those latency might be a bit of a pain not sure sure anyway I mean they're not file servers basically this is something that you would put at your TV or wherever if it's sort of a home theater sort of set up and then you would use an ass or a file server for streaming stuff from basically yeah you just might do some tweezing yeah you do get tweeze ring around all right some more comments ah what else we got here oh she don't want a tweezer if it if it doesn't work so I mean no well that that should be fine that should be fine really I don't know if that was stopping here that needs to be dealt with a bit better can you please make a rise and hackintosh to people do hackintosh as still is that still a thing I don't know I don't personally want to if a lot of you guys wanted to see what I guess I'd make Tim do that video Sam will take core v1 value bill please that is a super easy case to work with the core of e1 and it is a really good value case RTX Titan is perfect for 480p hmm well so we got here Tim please take enough rest you look sick Tim is pretty sick yes but he's been sick for about a week now so he's on Friday which there was no news corner yeah last week there won't be one this week either because of removal yep so Tim was kind of over being sick and he thought now I'm gonna do some work he was sick of me also caring the channel so he's a suck that up today and done the livestream but this has been a bit of fun and Tim's hanging in there so you should be alright I might have to do the patreon livestream by myself later if Tim passes they are I'm actually feeling fine it's just my voice is kind of very need more power aid that was one of the comments there I go for a twenty eighty now twenty eighty in this build would be pretty cool but I'm not sure if he was addressing someone else there yeah so I think that's um I'm up to speed with the comments I can read anyway they're flying up pretty quickly and we can't scroll back because well we haven't got a mouse huh that's handy it's over there use wd-40 I could have used a wd-40 to slide to that original graphics card him that would have actually worked quite well had I thought of it it's not usually my go-to thing though for PC building wishing Tim all the best a lot of Tim love here during about Tim you'll be fine now my usual luck with these things is that this would work yeah I'm just going to grab some water quickly so you know once a Powerade right yeah so I'm fairly confident this isn't going to work typically what I build a system I'm not super familiar with the first time I'm gonna stop something up in there and us livestream it's not a wife do something doesn't go wrong right I hope it doesn't work I hope it does work I don't think it will I mean I'm pretty amazed mine didn't I only forgot the USB three things that's not too bad yeah I think probably certainly thought liquid cooler that's usually you know water stats well it wouldn't sprout aside start dripping out but it'd be good if it did sprout the side that'd be quite funny yeah the liquid core at some point it looked okay to me should have used the game as a nexus anti-static map I've got the big mod map - Steve gave me one of the original ones and it's awesome I have it at home it's up in the benchmark lab I use it all the time really cool those gamers Nexus mod math yeah I should have brought up we could have protected your table with it but I didn't think that well ahead did I need this table needs a bit of a reap yeah a bit of a surface treatment tuchis yeah I've definitely never stored it this long for a video I can tell you that much it's weird they give you a black one of these with the grey yeah that is weird I kind of kind of goes together well though but that is weird but it doesn't does look alright I think maybe I think these are early production runs though so yeah well you don't really need to worry about just do that I undo those screws because the screws go through the whole lot to hold it on oh do they well my I did that was mine I didn't think they were long enough mine mine did fine so yeah maybe you're not meant to I don't know I did it works really well so yeah it's worked well for me but yeah because we haven't read the manual we have no idea so but as I said this is certainly not a build god it's just a bit of fun hopefully you guys are enjoying first-ever live firing on the tram the PC let's test this alright I'll put mine back here Gosei it's heavy that's my white limit on the plane bring what Finn is definitely not sitting flush with the thing yeah it'll take it a bit this way it a lot it'll be alright I have some of my unbranded liquid I'm gonna put this in the graphics card so look at me learning from my mistakes and one thing is I definitely didn't plug in the power led me well we don't even know if your power come on oh you looked up the manual yeah I put the power cord in the right place I think well yeah your LED lighting doesn't work no implant I just said I didn't plug that in I wasn't listening he's the fan look that's making this air getting sucked all through its getting air sucked through here and it's coming out there sorry cool yeah it's quite a lot of yeah here we go damn it it works well that's disappointing damn fully working is it me smoking though yeah I think so what's it doing sounds like it seems like it's locked up can you press any buttons I'll try y'all control delete worked I'll see if I get the boss okay well it's nice and quiet can you see the UM all the liquid cooler can you guys see that looks pretty cool actually oh there we go in the boss yeah looks pretty much like online work look idling at a billion degrees is it we set up no same as mine you haven't screwed anything up I'm sure well well my first build of the year I would have liked to be dude well haven't I've got a few other builds planned for the channel but yeah just haven't spent busy focusing on the games at the start of the year and then monitors now cuz I've got like it's got like ten ten to twenty ten over ten monitors I got at once to review because all the companies like Yankee have some monitors I'm like yeah sure I want to review this and then it comes to the point where I'm like hang on a moment I actually have to review all these on the channel at some point I'm in somewhere so that's kind of been the project over the past couple weeks there's a few more to go well this Ram seems pretty good see how 15 3333 not us I don't know what it'll go to before it doesn't work of course we're not stress testing it first ability right I think but I mean the fact that purse is pretty good yeah all right it's locked up did ya you say 3200 is the limit there without adjusting any timings so anyway that's probably to be expected but yeah Tim's works so yeah I've been hoping for some excitement on the stream some controversy it's yeah look I'm sorry you know if I just got sick on the strain that's whatever one right not megamix no don't do megamix yes I mean these cases were pretty easy to work with if you do your research beforehand and get the right components like I was really interested to sort of see being of my first mini ITX type build how difficult would be with TL the cables and stuffing but I think if you could get a good graphics card without the power connector that did help free a bit of space but the the sizing of that colors world well then good the power connector on the Nano was fine yeah there's heaps of room and stuff yeah it's the height there's heaps of room in the top of the case for getting the power connector in but it has to be a standard height card so but disappointing the Aero isn't but we'll see if MSI has anything else we can use yeah we can fit longer cards in there if you go for a low profile err CPU cool yeah it'll take a full length card basically if you go for an air-cooled it's pretty neat case really our priority though was CPU performance yes so rather than graphics card 21:33 2133 isn't the memory speed that's just what happens when you don't load XMP and your boot up for the first time so it is 3000 spec memory which is fine especially cell 15 that's pretty good stuff very cost-effective but yeah when you load up any new system at defaults to the base spec which is 21 33 for ddr4 and I think it's even by 21 33 ddr4 these days very yeah you'd be just the same well this is any other that's right that's right it's been really crap been stuff yeah if you guys have any questions feel free to drop them in otherwise we'll probably wrap this up I don't know how long we've been going for over two hours Wow okay so what we said it might a port of thought two hours would be about where we'd end up and well apparently we have can't see that what where is the timer it's a tiny bit of text in OBS in the bottom right two hours and 50 seconds oh okay well there you go and so you guys thanks for watching but you next time I am very hungry this is gonna be a light lunch so yeah has there been any questions if I missed anything I'm not really paying attention you too focused on your net how's the weather the weather has actually been really good today was meant to be terrible we're going to have thunderstorms and everything we thought that's gonna be pretty loud for the livestream like that last night yeah the weather's been good today so it was really nice yesterday a nice stream thanks guys thanks to everyone who tuned in and watched big thank you to anyone who watched all two hours that's pretty impressive yeah definitely and yeah if you guys really enjoyed this then maybe we can aim to do this sort of thing once every month or to do a different system each month maybe a 1080p budget build and we could go from it from two different angles so they're not the exact same systems next yeah if we each organized our parts we just don't don't speak to each other that could be pretty cool be very interesting to see would we come up with the same system under the same budget or what would happen yeah that could be kind of cool maybe we'll do that next month or after Computex just get your place set for life streaming a bit we want to know your height Steve I'm not super taller I think I'm six one so yeah yeah 510 which is why you look taller than me yeah so my head only gets chopped off if I sorta jump you were doing that before this dream for some reason I was like yeah where's my head out am I in am I in but yeah Tim Tim said of that fine yes I'm six one yeah which I thinks whatever pretty normal height Tim's shorter but whatever Steve read three of my comments and I'm happy well I'm glad I could make your day Lois and thank you for making three comments much appreciated yeah I think there's too many more questions coming in but yes so that was that was it that uh that's our live stream bills my first ever live stream on harbor and box which is pretty surprising that I've been running the channel for so long hosting on the child for so long we haven't done something you've done one or two before yeah I've done so I've I did a a I think it was my night member my nights the other hundred K test system or 8700 K or something like that mhm I built live that was there was a few issues game that one running up but I think you've got a bit more practice in and then there was also the twenty atti 48 hour stream which YouTube incidentally has screwed up and you can't watch never got processed yeah yes that we need to oblivion and for family whatever it wasn't the most entertaining stream yeah I think you know doing the patreon streams sort of we now know how to do it we've worked out a few things you did you did well with this that's not an easy build to do for your first build for the year or your first mini ITX build yeah so it's good alright this case yeah I'm really keen do I get it home and set it up properly put the right screws in tidied up a bit and yeah do some follow-up content with it but yeah it's a really cool case very expensive it is very unique though which is why they're charging a premium for it I suppose and it's not like a huge mass production thing as I said it's a crowd-funded case so you can find them on IndieGoGo we'll check the links and stuff in the description once the the stream ends beer comes in the gray color which I reckon looks pretty awesome or the black but yeah yours is the gray one so we won't confuse the two yeah but anyway thanks to everyone who tuned in and watched we've got more content coming up on the channel later this week yeah few things few monitor reviews few benchmark videos so Q knows will be going up next couple of days then next week yeah a few more reviews on my end you've got some stuff coming up so yeah I put a few different random pieces I want to do that that Dell Optiplex build with the 1650 versus the rx 560 and 1050 nights sort of stuff that'll be interesting I bought one of those Kingston RGB SSD so see what the hell's going on with those things so on still windows on that crank the LEDs that run a few tests and yeah see what the deal is they're cool and then there's a bit other benchmark things planned so yeah stay tuned for that anyway thanks for watching if you want to see our patreon live streams which is similar to this but it's just me and Tim sitting there answering questions and talking crap with you guys that's a lot of fun you can sign up I think what's that two dollars a dollar isn't it yeah yeah it's a dollar if you watch if you want to watch our monthly live streams it's one dollar a month that what is it two dollars to get no discord chat or something like that and three dollars for behind the scenes stuff so it's not expensive that's us dollars each month and yeah anyway otherwise you can just it to the main channel stuff which we very much appreciate you and we'll see you again next time yep so yeah I've actually leaned over here and the stream