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welcome back to harbor unboxed I'm about to be joined by my trusty sidekick Tim for Marches Q&A and apologies for missing the Q&A last month but we will be making up for it this month by answering a heap of your questions and a big thank you to everyone who did ask question alright let's jump into it okay so our first question comes from YouTube one of the more uploaded ones would it be dumb for Nvidia 10 series owners who bought their GPU before the crypto craze to sell their GPUs at a profit and wait for price normalization in order to get a better card for discounts okay I'll take that one ya reckon well the good news is I think that ship has pretty well sailed now or at least it's starting to leave the port which is great news for gamers the gtx 1080 for example that can now be found for under $700 u.s. and that's still about $200 above the MSRP so I can't believe I'm saying yeah it's still a better price than it was I think they were up over 900 not that long ago so we're probably going to continue to see prices tumble over the next month next few months don't hold me to that but you'll probably have a hard time selling your graphics card now for a profit that'll warrant doing without a graphics card for a while till you can buy another one yeah but you could still stand to make $100 or so if you had a higher-end one which again probably not worth it okay this next question comes again from YouTube where are the H 370 and B 360 motherboards and that is a pretty good question we address this in a bit more detail on the patreon livestream but basically pretty shocked these aren't out yet already I know it's been a huge delay we've got coffee-like CPUs late last year and still said 370 only boards but I can tell you that we have signed an NDA so I can't say much more than that but that should probably tell you all you need to know they're pretty close so the next question is also from YouTube when is in video releasing their new generation of GPUs so we really don't have an idea about this one the current room is sounding like q3 or q4 of this year so maybe Computex type timeframe to hear more details yeah really we don't know we haven't signed an NDA so it's just just guessing really at this stage but hopefully the second half of the year yep that's what I'd be thinking as well next question comes from Twitter do you think that rise and second-gen will be worth it or a person should just buy first gen will it be a big improvement over first gen or will the difference be what's a lot we saw between sky and KB like skylight KB like I'll let you answer that one yeah so I guess if you haven't bought into the rise in the ecosystem yet definitely just wait until second gen comes out at this point you know once that comes out there really will be no reason to buy the first gen parts I mean unless you can get one really cheap on a sale yeah there is no IPC difference between skylake and KB like so the difference will hopefully be bigger than that I'm sorry we're not too sure but we should be getting some clock speed improvements as well that will bring you know it's not an entirely new process no at 12 nanometer so even if there's very little IPC difference hopefully we'll be able to push those clock speeds up higher if not yeah I guess you'll be taking the rest of the year off what we watch content to make yeah yep I'll probably pack up my bags and I'll see you guys next year all right this questions from YouTube you test sort of games which ones do keep playing after testing what's this GG PC says you can play games after testing you never told me about this all right so this question is from dude on YouTube hey Hardware own box I've got a question for you during the production of GPU dies they're supposedly bin them what happens to the GPUs that don't make the cut for instance a gtx 1070 GPU dies produced but fails short of the 1070 spec but is still better than a 1060 as I understand normally they would do a 1060 TI but since this model doesn't exist what happens to it thanks Alex from the USA okay well you've nailed part of that question already oh well worked it out that said though there really shouldn't be that many defective ten seventies as ten 70s are ten 80s that didn't make the cut of course so they're made on a different bit of silicon or there are different GPU to the ten sixty the ten sixty is based on the GP 106 die and that means defective six gigabyte ten 60s are Bend as three gigabyte models as they have a few less cuticles but to answer your question usually even if they start seeing really good yields but just keep things as they are now they only introduce something like a GTX 1072 I Affairs a hole that needs filling and that is to compete with an AMD product gtx 1062 i was probably never going to happen though unless the GP 104 yields were really really bad or if AMD released a vega 48 GPU as a hypothetical example okay this next question is from youtube and the question is looking to upgrade to Rison - should I keep my X 370 or buy an X 470 motherboard yes I reckon you should probably keep your X 370 board for now since X 470 boards on out yet and you know MB hasn't specified what they're actually going to bring to people buying rise into or even on first generation rising so yeah we kind of speculated a bit on our patreon livestream that you know maybe they might do things like improve memory compatibility yeah there might be you know additional ports and stuff they could put through the chipset but where's your speculate we have no idea so basically just keep it for now it's a wait-and-see thing yeah alright this is a great question from YouTube I'd love to see a PCIe riser comparison video from the cheap eBay ones to the premium category for ecchymosis yeah riser cables bit of a tricky one I could have done that type of video and I did touch on unboxing boxes episode because I had some thermaltake ones a few different revisions yeah yeah they are all giving me headaches basically avoid cheap cables that cheap riser cables they're all garbage you really have to spend quite a bit of money to get a good shielded one in my experience anyway about they're quite expensive for good ones especially in Australia like you're looking at at least $80 Australian for a decent razor cable in my experience anything under that you'll usually see things like latency issues and that's not just in gaming either like watching a YouTube video there'll be weird lag and problems like that and can even upset the entire experience so I'd recommend buying from a brand name a known brand and cables that companies like Coursera and that recommend I know Thermaltake do have a new cable now that's supposed to solve those issues I haven't seen it but I would avoid buying any cheap cables off eBay they guaranteed to be trash so this is from Twitter and I'm personally very interested the answer to this one Steve how did the pizzas turn out ah the pizzas well they were amazingly good so good that I didn't have time to get a picture so I'll try next time go make one for me yeah well maybe we'll see how long this stream takes me I have to stop and have some dinner or something so question from YouTube here how hard is it to keep the lights on and not go bust have you ever been close to running out of money love the videos and keep them coming so thanks to that and I'm sure you'll be able to well I've read on this we've been close to making money the good thing about YouTube at least for our channel and the way we operate because most of or a lot of the hardware's provided we do spend a lot of money still but really the overhead for the channel is very low so Tim and I really only get paid as much as we make and we don't demand any more or we can't it's pretty unrealistic too but that's really the only way we've been able to make this channel happen so I think for the first two years the first year and a half I do it with Matt that was just we did it for fun that was definitely very little paying going on there but yeah Tim and I both do other things to pay the bills but the channel starting to make more and more money which is good it's nice getting a bit of money for it but yeah so basically to answer the question though no risk of you know running it or having to close down the channel because of money it's just it's there's no overheads and we just do it solely because we love playing around the computer gear and making videos about it yeah I think you said you know we do other stuff as well to pay the bills but it's not like we have a second job or anything no all of this is related it's related it ties in with this so yeah we both freelance write for tech spot that helps pay a few bills and whatnot yeah the other thing is that you know we have a lot of opportunity as well to sort of expand our revenue streams in that so thing you see in a few in-stream ads and you know videos they helped a lot of lately so you know we want to continue to include those and you know Yes Doctor you know continue to make our videos better and that sort of thing so yeah it's all going pretty well what's that in a moment yeah we're both happy with it so if it continues going the way it is we won't have to worry about that too much so that is definitely a good thing so this one's from Twitter interested about answer this one too what is the oldest part you have in the studio here actually that's that's very easy for me to answer I'm pretty certain a few people have pointed this out and laughed about it I'm pretty sure it's this guy right here seen this before noticed this on the show I made before I was born actually you know I wouldn't have been this is for those of you that haven't recognized it it is my well it is a seller on 308 it's my one and this was released in late 1998 ago I was born yeah I thought so yeah for those of you that want to know a bit more about this it was a hundred and $49 us sell to sell Iran for a hundred and forty one dollars u.s. that was the MSRP and it was a single core CPU that ran at 300 megahertz and I had a 128 kilobytes level two cache and you like similar to your laptops a 17.8 TDP so that's pretty pretty cool yeah a bit of a beast there overclocked to this particular chip to somewhere between 450 and 500 megahertz and that's why this was a bit special because it overclocked like a champion so from that's a that's a big overclock on a 300 megahertz part and I did that on it was an eye open motherboard so you had you know I open never heard of it all the kids in the audience liked what I opened dad did you know about a bit No Wow well I don't know if I feel old or you just before my time I think put this back so this question is from our discord chat that you can get through our patreon page and this is a fantastic question I reckon from Revell devil mm what is the one thing in the computer world whether it be laptops or desktops that you guys think needs the most improvement on random examples SSD speeds integrated graphics motherboard layouts and etc hmm I'll let you go first on this one Steve it's a tough one we need like an intermission thing give me 10 minutes you know SSDs not really there fast enough yeah you can go from like a sada to an nvme that's like three times the bandwidth and it's you're not really gonna notice it unless you're doing crazy Enterprise type stuff or data center type work hmm motherboard layouts yeah they could be improved a bit but it's not big deal not really a big deal they've tried different formats and yeah it hasn't really taken off you know what annoys me the most I think with the computing experience these days it's probably windows I thought that Microsoft I don't want to bash on the windows I like the Windows operating system for the most part but just they do some dumb things with it and some of the updates take away features they didn't need to and they just rearranged things and messed things up a bit so yeah Windows probably annoys me the most and also games what what is up with games the quality of games like we want better hardware support take better advantage of the PC hardware for a start and then I suppose just better quality games and ones that aren't broken as soon as they're released yeah thousands of bugs well yeah yeah essentially that that would be good so I have complained about software and software haven't I yeah was it a hardware specific question or there's a few Hardware things I can definitely think I'll pass it over to Tim then go for it like battery life yeah every device you have that has a battery in it does not last long enough yes so I really hope we things like phones and laptops you'll be able to use a faction more than a day for once at some point in the future before I die maybe yeah that's one integrated graphics as well for like laptops and stuff is unless you're getting Rison which is like three laptops on the market pretty much I'm stuck with the Intel net integrated graphics is terrible so yeah improvements there would be nice but yeah I agree with you on the windows and software stuff as well like there's a lot of very odd decisions like yes I mean I don't want to bash it too much by yeah there's better than running Mac's duel well I wasn't gonna go there that was a more goes about saying type of yeah I think so see you've detected this Q&A yeah all right well I think we've hopefully I didn't really answer that one that well because I don't think it was a hardware specific one yeah so yeah anyway this next question comes from YouTube do you think the CTS lab stuff will have a lasting effect seems to me that people are forgetting about it already who's czs labs next okay this next question it comes from YouTube why aren't 60 Hertz monitors this will be one for you shipped at 100 or 120 Hertz why the companies make us go into the monitor settings and overclock it again yeah so there's kind of two separate parts to this question I guess there are monitors that our advertisers overclockable like the ASA Pro X 34 that I use that comes out of the box at 60 Hertz and then you can overclock up to 100 Hertz using the Mars on screen settings and basically having that modeler as overclockable rather than just always a hundred Hertz allows them to sell monitors that don't quite reach 100 Hertz so it's kind of like instead of having to throw away the ones that only reach you know 90 or 95 Hertz they can sell those yeah because you can overclock adjust up to whatever limits you can get so you get better yields and then of course is the other monitors that aren't officially overclockable at all so they're like 60 Hertz and you can maybe you know in some driver settings whatever push that up backing yeah a bit of 100 Hertz or 120 X sometimes and that's just like overclocking any you know sort of component really you know some monitors will be able to overclock some won't at all so for those monitors they don't make them overclockable they don't sell them at a hundred Hertz and it's just you know like I guess that you get one they can do it this question is from YouTube as well do you have any idea about the prices of the upcoming risin 2600 and X 470 motherboards well again we talked about this in quite a bit of detail on the alive patreon stream but basically short answer no apart from the leaked info that's out there and we don't really have much more to go on and we usually like to wait until we have official information to give you guys so what's leave it at that so from Twitter risin 312 hundred in 2018 is it a good choice yeah okay well it's not bad but it's probably not a great choice since the 2200 G that's the rise in 320 200 G is at least well it's meant to be $10 cheaper at MSRP so it should be at worst case the same price and it should have better resale value because it has that Vega rate GPU inside so yeah I'd go for the 2200 year I think okay so this one's from Twitter got a lot of questions that were similar to this how can I build a PC with the right price and youtubers like you and tech deals or any other tech channel who might have GPUs in stock to sell to the viewers if requests okay well down to the first part of that question probably your only option at the moment a shop secondhand or we just wait for prices to come down because they will sadly though youtubers aren't really in a position to sell to their viewers because I could basically make one of you happy and the rest of you would be not happy if I did that though I'd have nothing to make content with tomorrow I have over 100 graphics cards not all of them I knew they're quite old some of them but almost none of them are the same so they're all different GPUs for doing my benchmarks and stuff so basically if I sold you my GTX 1084 the MSRP I no longer have a GTX 1082 benchmark with and yeah that's kind of a problem for me in the channel if I can't show you guys GTX tennety performance anymore because I sold mine so that answers that question next question is from Twitter there are some rumors saying that graphics card pricing will go back to something reasonable sometime soon as there anything to back that up yes yeah crypto currency crashing a little bit more than usual at the moment so that's suggesting that there you know might be a downward trend in a graphics card pricing seems there's been a lot of you know government stuff that spooked there okay crypto investors which is great for people because I just want to buy GPUs memory prices is still very high that's an entire unrelated problem to the crypto stuff so I wouldn't expect that to hit the MSRP anytime soon but hopefully in the GPU stuff should start to get back to normal a little bit lot less ridiculous you reckon yes alright well everyone hold Tim to that you're predicting two weeks two weeks ok this next question is from YouTube and this will be for you again Tim do you think that 1440p 144 Hertz and ultra wires should be the new standard yeah so not sure 1440p 144 Hertz should be the Stan I guess because they're pretty expensive still at the moment probably one of the most expensive motor categories out there I think the standard I guess is kind of something that should be affordable for everyone that's why it's early pieces yeah so I think 1080p 144 Hertz like high refresh 1080p be really good if they can get them super cheap so that they're the sort of default 1080p panels that would be awesome 1440p 144 Hertz being a stands probably a fair way away yeah as for ultra wide I think that's more of a preference thing you know some people prefer 16:9 some people prefer the ultra wide sort of experience so not really something that should be a standard just something that you know coexists with I'm not your wide fan yeah I love ultra wide spy obviously not everyone yeah he's in personal preference so yeah that's a preference thing cool should I buy a GT 1032 avoid high prices during the mining craze a GT ten okay yeah probably not I actually have a good video that's coming out tomorrow that sort of addresses this but you can get graphics cards such as a gtx 660ti for much less than a GT 1030 and in that particular example you'll look to get it or you stand to get about 70 percent more performance and that is in modern titles so that's what I would do go get myself a secondhand graphics card next questions from YouTube do you think the new mainstream cards from Nvidia will be a Pascal refresh probably yeah yeah probably alright quick question here from YouTube used 980ti or 1070 okay well as with any sort of second-hand purchase really depends on the price that you can get the 980ti for for second-hand parts I really like to get at least a 40% discount on whatever it is you're paying for a new gtx 1070 so again depending on the price if you can get it for at least 40% less than the new part then that's the deal I would go for all right guys we're gonna stop this video here we've answered quite a few questions wherever heat more that we would like to address so we're going to do a part two of the March QA so thanks for watching so far we'll see you again soon you got nothing on that 100k who say that oh yes oh you read the whole thing yeah yeah [Laughter] yeah you