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welcome back to our unboxed for this month's QA we're not gonna waste any time let's get straight into the questions all right the very first question for this month's Q&A comes from Elliot by a Pascal GPU now or wait for invidious next generation of GPUs huh well we've been asked this one a lot so if you have to address it at some point I'm not sure if the next-gen GPUs are coming well next month or in the next six months it's really impossible to say I don't think anyone in the media really knows or could know we're pretty certain that there are new GPUs coming sometime this year and they'll offer some kind of performance improvement or more efficient than what we currently have but of course we just don't know my advice would be at the very least wait till after Computex to see if anything gets announced there and Tim and I will be at the show in two weeks time two and a half weeks and we'll we'll cover it there and let you know if not hopefully then in two or three weeks time graphics card pricing will have dropped a bit further so if you can't really wait any longer then you know two or three weeks you might save a bit of money opposed to buying now and you will have given Nvidia a chance to announce any new GPU so if they're going to alright this question comes from shader aid why doesn't anyone show real-world benchmarks like we all know Intel has better single core scores for FPS but most gamers are multitasking at the same time while gaming there's music playing etc you know on a second monitor you've been playing hard row and box videos got the kind of stuff how does Intel single core scores hold it up in game while multitasking behind it huh alright to part of it yeah well we'll tackle the first part of it first so the kind of real world benchmarking being suggested here the reason we don't do it just because it's unreliable yeah yeah I've looked into this before and the results in my opinion is way too inconsistent so depending on what applications or what you have open for a start then what those applications are doing at any given time during the benchmark that can impact the results and well I gather that is more real-world it's not really great for accurately comparing how two different CPUs perform so you'll see situations where a fork or CPU might be beat or might beat an eight-core CPU for example of even the same architecture and even a three run average won't necessarily fix or smooth out those results so yeah it's just the inconsistencies there you'll find when testing with other things running in the background doing uncontrolled things so that's why we don't do it I suggest though if you do care about gaming performance then the best practice is just to ensure that anything that can heavily influence performance is just closed before you gave me any other place competitive games would be doing that anyway because the last thing you want is in the heat of the moment you're about to fire on someone and you get to the lag because some program and the backgrounds decided to install something or update or whatever so yeah close your programs and as for things like playing music in the background that really has no real impact on modern processors basically zero impact even on something like a G 45 60 and the same is true for movies and TV shows so you should be seeing very little performance impact there and the same also goes for downloading torrents for example and just finally test systems don't comprised of some unrealistic skeleton Krew of applications writing it's just a standard unaltered version of Windows 10 professional we have the performance monitoring software that we use things like storage and graphics utilities and then I have you know steam you player origin I imagine you have all the same sort of stuff on your laptops so there's a fair bit of software there anyway quite a bit of memories being used as soon as we start the system up so or taking all that stuff into account that's another reason why it's so important that we do do an average of three runs so we do get consistent results ok next question is from Molag Tang 23 sure I got that right is there any difference in memory compatibility with a first generation ship between X 370 and X 470 boards since the IMC is in the CPU I feel like there shouldn't be any difference but it's good to know if you can get a cheap Rison 7 first gen part ok well no there isn't I didn't I know I tested this in my original review when I was having a few problems with the X 370 boards but that was down to biases the boss that I was using just had a few issues there with the memory that I was trying I haven't gone back and done a whole lot of further testing or follow-up testing for that but I have seen a few others that have done testing and they found that the X 370 boards are identical to the X 470 boards up that's assuming that you're comparing a board of similar quality so it really comes down to how many layers the PCB is how well it's designed for high frequency memory and stuff like that but if you have an X 370 board and an X 470 board the only difference on them is the chipset and they've got the same quality bass the same board then you will see the same results okay next question is from luck a you would you recommend upgrading from my current sir it's an i7 2670 5m motherboard to 12 gigabytes rather of ddr3 memory and a GTX 670 and or what path would I take gaming for the most part although I do love how horizon or the rise and lineup is looking in terms of productivity so I'm gonna give you a got that yeah I think only if you need to feel and if you feel the need to upgrade at this point I think you know the graphics card there is probably the weakest link so you know if you threw in something like gtx 1060 or RX 5 and you'd see a pretty big performance up lifting games you know alternately if you need a completely brand new system for gaming you know the core i5 8400 is pretty cost-effective at the moment though you know if you care more about productivity than the rise of v 2600 might be a better option of course they have that superior upgrade path well yes I've got me motherboards and that sort of thing so yeah that's probably where where it lands at the moment yeah I think so I think that's pretty much how I would have tackled that one so good job Tim all right this question comes from nod hope I got that right how come you resisted the easy money offered by SCD Keys for advertising stolen om windows keys do you have any advice for the affected youtubers they think money is better than reputation I'll touch that last bit better yeah well we just avoided them because well maybe some of what you said in that comment probably not the most reputable advertised that we could choose so but honestly I've never really looked into them that closely just because when they contacted us they didn't want to do in stream ads our rather they wanted a dedicated sponsor video and for us that's really a big no-no so yeah not the type of video we want to do all the topic content we want to make that's more in our opinion sort of what just out this sort of sell out content yeah so not sort of stuff we want to do but is that desk that's a really good vacuum yeah yeah this question is from Abraham what do you expect from Computex 2018 hmm good question well I think what's guaranteed is complete like a sleep hopefully a fair bit of fun yeah I suppose you're asking their product wise what we expect to see and that's a tough one Tim and I sort of we discussed that on the patreon livestream we're having a good thing about that I'm definitely expecting some new motherboards yeah new motherboards so you said 390 chipset from Intel and then there's Ed 490 from AMD which seriously AMD I can't believe this ed 490 is actually a thing I was pretty shocked by that so stupid and then other than that maybe some some second gen thread Ripper yeah I think that might be a chance of new stuff from Nvidia but it's really hard to tell at this point even went though only a couple weeks out you know it's really going to be when we're there that we start to see yeah what sort of things are coming up yeah so fingers crossed for new GPUs but yeah who knows alright next question is from Peter pairing and NVIDIA GPU with the free sync monitor what will you see 144 FPS but stuttering or just 60 FPS so the only real thing that freesync provides is adaptive sync support so when you're running on an AMD card you get adaptive sync when you're running on an Nvidia card you don't get adaptive sync so aside from that every other feature should work perfectly fine so in the case of a 144 Hertz monitor with free sync on an NVIDIA GPU you'll definitely be able to run all the way up to 144 Hertz maximum refresh no problems but of course you won't get adaptive sync so depending on whether you use vsync on or off you either get stuttering or screen tearing below 144 FBI and then of course above it the same sort of problems as anybody has so yeah precinct motors work perfectly fine with NVIDIA GPUs but you're just missing out on that variable refresh rate technology yep glad you answered that because I only clicked halfway through the what he was actually asking about yeah that's an interesting question yeah next question is from King what systems do you guys use for video editing and gaming apologies if this has been answered before somewhere I don't know if it has now that's fine you can ask well I use the three rip in nineteen fifty X now I mean actually using that for quite a few months I still have not built my 1950 X system it's still sitting on a bit of foam in my office so yeah that's a bit embarrassing but I'll do that at some point probably by the time ii jump over if it comes around we asked my editing / workstation so that's where I spend most of my time and then I have a separate gaming system it's not actually the one that's in here but well this is another thread Ripper core i7 87 or okay system but I haven't another set upstairs that I use for gaming yes and that's just got again a Geforce GTX 1080 T I can't really beat that combo for gaming some quite happy with it yep unlike Steve I have just one system these for both my editing and gaming there are only two - just at the moment so I've still on my rise in 7 1700 X in there we're playing to upgrade that to 2700 X on the same board nice compatibility stuff there and then I have Titan X Pascal for gain so basically the same as a 1080 TI and yeah that's been really good so far yeah I'm not too bad on the Jeep well both you CPU and GPU are very respectable yeah obviously the GPU is hard to beat yeah it's great for I've got an ultra-wide say 34 40 by 1440 and yeah it runs really well yep I think perfect all-rounder really yep right this questions from Daniel why does the GA 990 FX AUD 3 all true exists in M 3 plus a motherboard or behind with the USB 3.1 type C and an MDOT 2 slot is this tech wasted on this older platform yeah it's hard to say why that one exists I guess it's because all of you are insane ok maybe not maybe not you guys watching this video but there's plenty of insane shoppers out there snapping up FX 8350 processors now can you believe this they are consistently CPUs consistently make their way into Amazon's top 20 best cpu sellers list bulldozer CV 2018 and they're in the top 20 so they're beating out like skylake X CPUs and stuff I mean I suppose people are seeing you know an 8 core CPU for it I think it was 98 dollars basically $100 u.s. last time I checked there just going add that to cart maybe because the hype around rise and they just think that's you know maybe that unfortunate yeah well yeah I I went and checked the rating as well and they're getting four and a half stars out of five star that's the rating and that's like 2,000 insane customers so yeah I'd say that's why gigabytes decide to release that new 990 FX motherboard because people are still snapping up you know FX processors if you can believe that alright next that we have Clint Excalibur 71 alright with SEC laughs not with second gen rise and springing hot this season will be better to buy a first generation processor at a cheaper price or second gen in terms of price to performance okay well I think it's time Tim took on a question so okay so well mister Excalibur I guess it depends on on how much cheaper you can get the first gen rise and parts for I guess right here right now sorry here in Australia you know 1600 is just thirty bucks cheaper than the 2600 and if at that sort of price you definitely wouldn't touch the first gen part over on Amazon the 1600 is $15 us saving again so I guess I wouldn't go near for that sort of tiny saving yes the 2600 is 190 us sixteen hundred's 175 us so yeah we'd have to be around 150 us I'd sort of say for the 1604 to be sort of worth it yeah I think 150 us is a great price for that CP or if you can get it lower I think some of the guys some of our US viewers are saying a Micro Center that's a big day we're doing like motherboard and CPU combos for insane like 150 or something like that so that if you see that obviously get that but I think 150 us or lower that's a good yep this question is from Mario Rison 320 200 G or Rison 520 400 G which is the best value for money hmm I think you really have to what would you get with the 22 our jury yeah yeah I think the rise in 322 energy all day on that one the 2500 G it's a good APU good it's just a bit too expensive really that's the only bad thing about it comes out of pricing doesn't it which is what you're asking I think they are 170 us is the MSRP and they're currently selling for about that 160 us maybe 225 Ozzy so a bit pricey for a quad core with SMT so it needs again another CP it probably needs to be about 150 us at most to make sense and I think that's a very similar conclusion to what we came to in our day 1 coverage and that video there was about half an hour long though so even I didn't watch all of it so I'll let him off on that one all right Steve this next question comes from a user who's chosen the username of the saucy goblin shark how ddr5 or near memory affect AMD's ApS in terms of performance ok that's a good question well assuming the timings aren't slacker than AMD's chips at naming division I'd say pretty massive seriously though put it this way I'd say or what's another way to look at it maybe if you were to say if Raven Ridge used ddr3 2400 memories that's probably a good way to go back a bit if you put ddr3 memory with a Raven Ridge APU it would be a lot slower than the ddr4 2933 memory that's probably a good way to look at it so assuming we see the same sort of late with ddr5 memory then yeah it should just take the AP use to the next level so oh yeah yeah so I think we'd see really massive gains there nice frame rate boosts and yeah should be good let's hope ok so we're going to stop there good amount of questions for part 1 hope you guys have enjoyed it so far part 2 will be coming not tomorrow probably the day after we'll have something some some other special content for you tomorrow so keep your eyes peeled for that speaking of which make sure you subscribe like this video and I'm your host Steve and I missed him see you next time