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welcome back to hardware on box this is part 2 of our May Q&A if you missed the first part definitely go back and check that one out but this is part 2 and let's get into the second half of the questions that you guys asked us all right next question is from nogira sorry if I got that wrong Tim made me do this one oh ok can you explain in more detail what XMP is I suppose well XMP stands for extreme memory profile and that is extreme with an e not an X anyway it was developed by Intel back in the ddr3 days to help use this fine tune their memory with just a one-click button type solution because otherwise you have to go through we have to first set the frequency and then the time and it's a bit confusing because people don't know what timings work at what frequency and so basically it's a way for Intel and the memory makers to take all that guesswork out for you guys so rather than have to follow certain timings at certain frequencies you just load the XMP profile hits maximum timings at the designated frequency but without XMP so I suppose in the dark days of ddr2 when we didn't have XMP profiles by default the memory would just boot up at a really safe profile so a sort of a default specified profile with very relaxed timings at a lower frequency and that was just to ensure compatibility so that the system would actually boot up but if you've bought premium memory designed to work above spec which I suppose most of you guys do spending half an hour in the BIOS making sure that all the settings are correct really is an ideal so XMP was created to significantly reduce the time and experience required to maximize your memory performance all right next question is from Apollo could you say why my laptop gtx 1050 4 gigabyte thermal throttles at 60 degrees does this affect performance if so what could I do to fix it yeah so your laptop probably shouldn't be thermal throttling at 60 degrees seems very discrete laptop GPUs should work fine all the way up into the mid 80s that's very typical for a sort of gaming laptop or any discrete that's cool for a lap yeah I mean laptop CPUs write like a hundred degrees so yeah I guess the way that GPU boost works is that you know the more temperature Headroom you have the more likely it is to boost into those sort of high frequency ranges so you might be seeing less performance there but sixty degrees is still pretty cool there yeah I think though if you are getting thermal throttling legitimately and you're worried about performance you can always open up the laptop if you can and apply better thermal paste to the GPU even the other metal because laptop manufacturers really do skimp a little bit on their on their cooling paste well yeah be interesting know what model laptop it is so yeah okay now if there is actually some sort of extreme limit there because yeah as you say sixty degrees is very cool so yeah knowing the model could help and also have you tried installing something like MSI Afterburner with River tuner to actually monitor not just the temperature world game but also the frequency to know if it is yeah make know what's working for ya so interesting to see how your you are monitoring if it is throttling or not you seem confident that it is but to be interesting that frequency it's actually running at under those conditions next question is from I'm crazy pvp cool I have a rise in 514 hundred and was thinking of getting a new Verizon 2600 X I also have an Isuzu prime B 350 plus motherboard so should I upgrade or wait for Zen to okay yeah give us your thoughts to tell us how anything I think the reason v 1400 still pretty capable if you're not using something like GT X 1080 Ti you're probably still getting the most out of your graphics card with that CPU that's fair to say the 2600 X yeah it's a great CPU but for gaming you probably won't notice much of a difference so I guess you probably want to wait for a more substantial upgrade but then again I guess if you're using productivity workloads you might get a bit more out of there 2600 I was just about to say it really comes down to what you want to do if the system says the 1400 perfectly good gaming CPU is still especially if you're only using a me range graphics card as Tim said so yeah if you want a boost in productivity then you will see quite a nice boost with the 2600 X but then you also want to make sure you have good memory to take advantage of it so yeah yeah depends on what memory you have now I suppose next question is from Abdullah so if I mispronounce that Israel ever going to go down in price yeah one day it certainly is I let's just do a prediction here I predict the first quarter of 2019 there you go all right I predict never I reckon we'll stay flat roughly flat and then the next generation of products will come out and maybe from there we'll see some jobs but I think we were seeing rises for a long time and now it sort of flattened out and I think manufacturers don't really like to make things cheaper so I'm holding out on it to stain soon and I also predict that the comment section now hates Tim these questions from Emeralds do ask manufacturers for reviewing samples or do manufacturers ask you to review them that's a great question yeah sometimes we request a product particularly but something that you guys are asking us to check out either ahead of time or if it's released some things we don't really review much like cases keyboards and mice um I do there my unboxing boxes but generally we pretty well flooded with offers to check out a new hardware on a daily basis so sometimes we're like yeah and probably don't have time to get to that but obviously if it's CPU GPU related or a new laptop or something like that we'll jump on that so yeah it's nice to get our hands on that stuff as it comes out yeah and I think with some companies especially the CPUs and GPUs sort of thing this is an understanding between us and the companies that both of us want each other doing well yeah that's work together on those products so it's really really easy for those sort of products to be reviewed by us no problems there yeah so what Tim is basically saying is when in a video release a new graphics card we just sit tight wait and I'll send out an email and say all right we're releasing the new GPU in two weeks time and here's the NDA sign that and we'll send one out yeah sounds good to us all right this next question is from M just just M for now which side will have the first X 499 a red or blue boy well I'm gonna have to assume an AMD because you know 2nd gen thread Ripper we've already seen that that's sort of out there so it can't be too far away but as I said early these chipset names that it's getting absolutely stupid I have no idea where Intel's high-end f-stop platforms going from here but yeah if they change to something else and then AMD copies that it's probably grounds for being sued they're here that's Rachel it's just getting ridiculous for the owed the buyers okay that's terrible anyway I think IMD will win that one and then I don't know where Intel goes from there all right this questions from Mustafa will we see an AP from AMD that is more powerful than the Rison 520 400 G or wait until they build it on second gen plus a bit of a good GPU inside okay yeah I've had a few people ask me we were trying to think about it and I doubt it at this point the issue isn't so much can they put a more powerful GPU inside an APU because they 100% can the issue is that doing it won't really yield any extra performance as even the 2400 G is memory bandwidth limited and we see that when comparing it to the 22 energy when both of them are overclocked so until they can increase the memory bandwidth and we spoke about ddr5 earlier it's unlikely that we'll see any beefier ap use yeah and right now the dye that they use for those ApS has is fully unlocked in terms of its GPU and CPU so yeah there has to be a whole new silly yes they could do the bump up clock speeds which seems unlikely or that I have to make a new chip and that's probably not gonna happen at this point no I this question is from need a better name is there an actual noticeable difference from 60 Hertz to 144 plus all TV and movies are filmed at less than 40 fps even YouTube caps at 30 yeah so YouTube you can actually get 60 FPS from YouTube this really all be 60 FPS and yeah most TV and movies are is like 24 for 30 fps but there is a big difference between 60 and 144 Hertz like 60 FPS is pretty smooth as it is but the the jump in fluidity to 144 Hertz not just for gaming but also just you know browsing around windows day or night yeah yeah it really is Dan right and it's only until you use one of those mornings that you really understand that sort of difference in in smoothness so yeah it's a really big difference you don't really notice as much with films because we're all used to King films at 24 fps yeah yep you right and even YouTube videos and all that you don't really notice it but when you're gaming and you're like making movements and Saul you know reacting to what you're doing that's obviously the good one yeah yeah and as you say it's like it enhances the windows experience like get a chrome window and like scroll down on a 60 Hertz panel and you think oh that's not too bad then you're a 144 hurt so that's like scream so much smoother okay so this question is from psy ish got that right how much time an effort does it go into making a mega benchmark video Steve quite a bit yeah so it's a sound arrogant or anything like that but it is just it really is way too much time and effort so I don't imagine that you'll see too many other content creators making those types of videos you've really got to just be sick in the head and love doing it I spent about fifty hours benchmarking for that last 36 game head-to-head and then about another 16 hour a day creating the graphs the beer roll and all the editing that goes into making those sort of videos so it is a massive undertaking I really do enjoy making them though and I love seeing how the hardware compares in a wide range of games all right other question from Sai ish can i overclock a rise in its 2600 to 4.2 gigahertz using a stock cooler no no I'd say not unless you live in a freezer that won't be possible I think from memory based on the day one review I did test that I think was 4 gigahertz it's pretty much the limit with the stock cooler and even then things do get a bit toasty I there are some good coolers anyway for $20 u.s. or less I like the gamax 202 I really like that one that often sells for like 10 or 11 dollars u.s. on Amazon so go check that out all right this question is from James have you tried overclocking the GN mod mat yet I heard rumors about him bidding press samples for top performance our Steve wouldn't do that really not Steve now he's too genuine of that but for those of you who don't know what the mod mat is here it is block me right out there you go how good does that look much better picture now be careful of my mind Matt don't crease it all right so yeah Steven he's underhanded tactics with the media so this is something I have wanted to touch on yeah I have found quite amazing performance with the mod Matt at about 1.45 volts I'm speaking along here Steve though and he got a bit upset about that he said me that that he said that much voltage will start to degrade the Matt so he suggested winding it down but I think he's a bit concerned that you know the other non cherry-picked Matt's probably won't get to those voltages and if I started reporting that then you yeah people will know that you've been cherry-picking the mod Matt's enough silliness I don't really care about overclocking the mod Matt that's not why I have them on Matt I want my RGB light add-ons and so release them Steve I want one at the top and one at the bottom yeah okay this question is from Kenya he's oh jeez give that one another shot this next question is from Kenny second time lucky doing the reading this question he's rising really future-proof in gaming should we trust 720p results as an indicator of it risin 1600 / 2600 vs. I 580 400 okay well if it's really impossible to say right now because we we don't know what the futures gonna hold depends on games and many other things like that but it should do very well and 100% load because we've seen that it does in other workloads and the FX series they don't really do that well under a hundred percent load for various reasons mostly down to how it's designed as for 720p well I do like those results and basically what they do is they tell us exactly how these CPUs perform in games right now we're not GPU limited so that's really important if you're just testing the games we have today under GPU limited conditions that it doesn't really tell you how the CPU might behave if there's sections of the game that do become really heavy on the CPU where you'll see slowdown so the 720p results are good for that and also if you happen to upgrade your GPU so a lot of people say oh you know you test with the 1080 Ti and I don't use that but you might buy a 1080 or maybe even a 1080i in a year's time or two years times secondhand or you might keep your CPU for the next three years and then buy a GPU and three years time that's way more powerful than a today UTI and then it would be really interesting know how your CPU you have stacked up at 720p when it wasn't GPU limited so by you just want to mask the performance and say oh look they all they're much the same there's some 4k results it's just some it's not in fear but even doesn't tell you anything so okay last question here probably going to be a quick one it's from Specter does B 360 motherboard support three fair or it's actually 3,200 memory it's not three thousand ten megahertz that's fine all that slide do the B 360 motherboards support 3,200 memory that is the question and well the answer's no well yeah they are yeah well they do support the sticks but not at 3200 speeds I think that's yeah so you'll be limited to 20 666 or 2400 yes that's right so it depends on the CPU so the core i5s and i7s work at 2666 that's what you'll be locked up and I think the core are threes and lower 2400 so you can install any memory above that spec the disadvantage there will be when you load the XMP profile it will be loading timings for that higher frequency so you will want to possibly look at a guide to tighten up most time it does really affect Intel CPUs too much but there will be a little bit of extra performance to be had there by tightening those timings up and that's it for this month's Q&A video thanks to everyone who submitted asked questions throughout all our various channels we really appreciate it definitely go back and check out part 1 of this video if you haven't already and I guess Steve though we'll catch it next month for another Q&A definitely we'll see you next time