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welcome back to the hard round box news corner in a special Sunday edition thanks to the coin 919 hundred K embargo ending on Friday which is when we normally run these episodes anyway we've had an absolutely massive week of news including the launch of the 9900 K and the RT X 2070 a few days earlier check out our reviews or both of those new products if you haven't already but on top of that we've had AMD doing some good stuff and some dodgy stuff rumors of new graphics cards from both AMD and NVIDIA production updates for new technologies at several companies and plenty more this is a jam-packed news corner so let's get started I guess we should start with the story of the AMD Radeon rx 580 2048 SP because it's generated a ton of discussion in the hardware box discord chat earlier this week as it turns out and I guess has been the case for some time now AMD is exactly like NVIDIA when it comes to naming graphics cards they released two products with basically the same name but have different specifications and performed differently on the Nvidia side we've seen it many times with the GTX 1063 gigabyte the GT 1030 ddr4 and the gtx 1053 gigabyte AMD has done in the past with the RX 560 14 and 16 CU variants and now they've done it again with the misleading Radeon arts 580 2048 SP so the standard rx 580 has 2304 stream processors it's clocked up to 13 40 megahertz it has a 185 watt TDP and it comes with eight gigabit per second gddr5 this is the version you get when you purchase an RS 580 as a discrete GPU or when you buy an OEM system with an RX 580 inside except now we also have the Arc's 580 2048 SP which as you might have guessed cuts down the stream process account to 2048 it also drops the boost clock to 1280 for megahertz and reduces the gddr5 transfer rate to 7 gigabit per second leading to a lower TDP all up of just a hundred and fifty watts I guess another way to look at this card is it's basically a slightly overclocked rx 570 the RX 5/7 also has 2048 SPS yet it's only clocked up to 12 44 megahertz at this stage the arcs 580 2048 SP is only destined for the Chinese market it's not clear whether it will be sold as a discrete card for system builders or as a product just for OMS either way marketing what is essentially an RX 570 as an RX 580 2048 SP is pretty deceptive even if the card is only used for OEM systems it just means someone looking to buy a prebuilt RX 580 system could be deceived into thinking the RX 580 2048 SP is the RX 580 when in fact it's quite a bit different so mb just don't do this stuff it's better for consumers if you name cars like this more in line with the performance they're delivering the RX 580 2048 SP should really be called the RX 570 X or something like that and really we're going to catch you every time you try and pull dodgy stuff like this so just don't bother keep your naming nice and simple in better news from AMD the company this week decided to formally respond to the principle technologies benchmark report comparing the kora 999 hundred K with the horizon 720 700 X and other processes you know the ridiculously flawed report we slammed PT and Intel on the channel 4 across several videos and we decided to release a set of slides on the cria 999 hundred k embargo a day outlining their specific issues with the benchmarks conducted giving PT and Intel a bit of a schooling on how to properly benchmark things the first of the slides go through every problem with the PT labs reports both the horribly flawed first report and the slightly less floored second report dimensions most the stuff we already talked about in the channel including how PT ran the 2700 X as a quad core the issues with using different coolers depending on the CPU strange BIOS choices and questionable memory configurations and for the second report enemies still had issues with things like the coolest memory configuration are the sayings that's all fair enough the second slide goes through benchmark best practices and all this stuff it makes complete sense it's actually a pretty good guide if you're looking to do any benchmarking especially a start at the end where Andy talks about remembering the user it doesn't make a lot of sense to test 64 gig of ram with a $300 CPU which isn't going to be typical consumer configuration so it's better to test with a more reasonable setup and it's nice to see only acknowledging that in their guide of course I only don't always benchmark things perfectly at the launch of Rison we took issue with the company emitting low resolution gaming data instead using 4k or 1440p to compare their CPUs to Intel where games are mostly GPU bound that said they did correct that for second generation so I guess they also learn from their mistakes but we certainly have never seen and reproduce a set of benchmarks that comes close to the rubbish Intel and PT served up with the 9900 k report rumors are heating up surrounding a new Polaris GPU from AMD believed to be called the Radeon RX 590 we've heard a variety of rumors over the past few weeks using names such as the rx 680 but it appears with the latest election of legs as personal video cards we're actually getting an RX 590 the RX 590 is reportedly based on a Polaris refresh GPU possibly manufactured using a 12 nanometer process rather than 14 nanometer like existing Polaris products this no change would allow ambi to hit higher clock speeds with rumors suggesting the RX 590 is clocked up to 1545 megahertz which is a good 200 5 megahertz higher than the standard rx 580 there's no word on core configuration though looking at these leaked 3d mark performance numbers it's looking like the same 2304 streaming processes as the RX 580 with the same memory configuration so far video cards has received word that a soos is working on an ROG Strix version of the rx 590 while H is is also planning on releasing an RX 5 90s that's pretty compelling evidence there interesting the DeSousa is looking to bring back the ROG Strix brand for AMD cars that is likely thanks to NVIDIA killing the GPP anyway interesting times ahead sounds like this new players card isn't too far away and if it provides 10 to 15% more performance than the rx 580 it could be well suited to compete with whatever in the video has in store with the GTX 2060 and I guess bridging the gap until 7 nanometers next year speaking of Nvidia apparently gigabyte is working on a GTX 1060 with gddr5 X memory this new version of the GTX 1060 would be based on a GP 104 GPU not GP 106 used for other GTX 10 60s and it would use of course faster clocked memory there's not a whole lot of information to go on and it seems a little strange to us an Nvidia would release another Pascal card at this point and one with gddr5 X memory at that but the video cards tends to be pretty reliable in less interesting use this weight gigabyte percent a Halloween promotion for the rx 2072 all sounds fine except the company also listed the rx 27 t TI in the promotion as well it makes sense that in video would consider releasing an Rx 27 t TI except gigabyte confirmed it was just a typo so yeah moving on DVR v memory is on track for production in late 2019 according to an update provided by cadence and micron the DDR 5 spec hasn't been finalized by JEDEC yet but we're expecting to get that spec soon and certainly before ddr5 begins to ramp up DVR 5 is set to bring a range of improvements including higher capacity chips faster speeds and lower power consumption cadence is currently claming that for ddr5 3200 speeds ddr5 will have 36% more bandwidth than ddr4 3200 and when bumping ddr5 up to 4800 speeds that jumps up to an 87 percent increased relative to ddr4 3200 typical DDR 5 speeds are expected to sit between 40 to 66 and 6,400 mega transfers per second cadence are expecting ddr5 to hit service first followed by consumer platforms as soon as 2020 and this should hold true for lpddr4 as well micron are expecting to begin production on 16 gigabit ddr5 chips on a sub 18 nanometer process in late 2019 Corsair have launched a new selection of SSDs under the force MP 510 brand these are PCIe M got two SSDs that used to Sheba's 64 layer three DTL scene and with the new faster e 12 controller from vison basically this makes the MP 510 a much faster SSD overall compared to the older MP 500 we're looking at 610 K random raid I ops for the 960 gigabyte drive along with 570 kay writes and over three gigabyte per second sequential transfers these performance figures of course changed slightly for the 240 gig 480 gig and 1920 gigabyte models anatec reviewed the new SSD and found it to be very competitive calling it a pretty good deal for a high-end nvme SSD learning that it's not the fastest drive they've tested but it still performs very well in most tests you can get an MP 510 now at $66 for 240 gigabytes 125 dollars for 480 gigabytes and a two hundred and $36 for 960 gigabytes a couple of quicker topics to finish this news corner off Samsung has begun production of 7lp paid chips Samsung's 7 nanometre manufacturing process uses extreme ultraviolet lithography for some layers allowing 7 LPP to deliver massive gains in some areas relative to their 10 l PE process Samsung is claiming a 40% area reduction for the same complexity 50% lower power consumption at the same frequency or 20% higher performance at the same power compared to ten lpe 10 LPP is Samsung's slightly superior 10 nanometer process so 7lp pays gains won't be quite as high measured relative to 10 LPP but still like with TSMC 7 nanometre tech this is a generational leap on 10 nanometers an ant x article goes into a lot of detail on 7l PP so it's worth reading if you're interested in further details on the tech final topic of this week dell has launched the ultra sharp 49 one of the first monitors to use a 49 inch 50 120 by 1440 display this is a 60 Hertz IPS display designed for productivity effectively giving you two 27-inch 1440p monitors side by side without the bezel in between the LG may panel is curved with a 3,800 r curvature and it sports 99% srgb coverage with a factory calibration to a delta a of less than 2.0 it also supports USB C along with DisplayPort and HDMI the u 49:19 DW the official name for the ultra sharp 49 will be available on October 26th for 1700 us doors and Dell said they're sending one out for us to test at the end of October so look out for that soon all right so that's it for this week's news corner lots of interesting topics in this one probably missed a few things as well but that's life subscribe to get the segment in your inbox every week usually they go out on Friday but we've had a few releases I guess stuffing around the schedule lately hopefully we'll be back to normal soon consider supporting us on patreon to get access to our exclusive discord chat and I'll catch you in the next one