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News Corner | GeForce RTX Cards Are Dying, Nvidia Facing Serious Issue

2018-10-31
welcome back to the Hadron box news corn a bit of a midweek special here as I'll be away on Friday but luckily there's been a fair bit of news come up since our last news corner so let's get right into things with that any delay to kick things off let's talk about the news that's making waves around the tech scene right now defective NVIDIA GeForce RT X cards we're seeing many more reports of these issues then we'd normally see from a GPU launched the GeForce forums and reddit are filled with users complaining about their RT X 28 e TI cards coming back either dead from the factory or defective to the point where they caused artifacting crashes or blue screens straight out of the box and we're not talking about driving issues here because every standard troubleshooting tip seems to be ineffective for the people reporting these sorts of issues the majority of reports seem to be related to invidious RT X xx atti founders edition although a few users have also found issues with board partner models of this card a few RT X 2080s also seem to be defective but not nearly to the extent of the RT x 28 ET i though that could be because naught is behind the RT x 2080 this is a serious issue and it's worth discussing because it doesn't appear to be a typical case of a few users reporting failures normally with everyone should get a couple of people getting a defective model and they'll go and complain but with the RT X cards a large portion of people are having problems including us here at Hardware unboxed we haven't had any issues with our founders edition cards or the RT X 20 atti but we did have one board partner RT X 2080 died on us completely in exactly the same way as users have been reporting on the GeForce forums initially we suspected this was just a dud card and you know that happens sometimes but with such widespread reports of issues it seems that we too have had these issues we probably have more cards than the average person on hand but not a massive number and certainly we haven't experienced issues with previous launches our RT X 2080 in question was an AI B card based on the founders Edition PCB design we're not saying the founders edition PCB design caused the problems or whether it's related at all but it wasn't a specially designed bored the issues could be related to the large die size for Turing cards particularly the 2080 ti which uses a massive 754 square millimeter die or it could be related to the use of JD dr6 memory we just don't know at this point we also had a strange issue with another board partner our TX 2070 card where the card was stuck in a PCIe x 4 configuration that could be related to the issues people are seeing or it could just be another random issue related to these are TX products at the moment new video are suggesting users should RMA their cards although some users are reporting that the RMA process is taking a long time due to supply constraints others have had to RMA cards more than once due to receiving a second still defective card back from Nvidia while there are plenty of reports on these issues in videos technical marketing team is currently stating that they are working with users individually but we are not seeing any broader issues this might suggest we're just tuning from a vocal minority of buyers facing issues but it does seem like these complaints are much more widespread than invidious past GPU launches when we reached out to some industry contacts one board partner told us they hadn't seen many cards are made but that they didn't really know what was going on with the Fairley issue suggesting it was just FA models that were affected one retailer told us they hadn't seen an unusually high RMA rate for RTX cards either though again they didn't sell founders edition cards and said it was still too early to tell if it was a major issue but on the other hand we've also heard from a company that specializes in system builds and out of the nine RT x 28 e TI cards that they had purchased all of them were based on the founders edition design and three of them have failed already and again they stated that the RMA process had been a bit of a pain for them so far anyway we'll continue to monitor this situation and we're following up with more industry contacts to see what the broader situation is but at the moment it's really not looking good for the RT X cards and I think that the founders Edition board design may have something to do with it not 100% sure at this stage again we're still following up but yeah not great news for NVIDIA and there are T X cards at the moment alright now we have a few other stories to get through and a few updates on two upcoming graphics cards the AMD Radeon rx 590 and the gddr5 X version of the GeForce GTX 1060 I covered a few rumors surrounding both of these cards in the last news corner but since then a few more details have emerged starting with the RX 590 from what we're hearing this graphics car isn't too far away but don't expect it to provide a significant performance bump over the RX 580 while AMD is set to use a smaller 12 nanometer FinFET process to manufacture this card as confirmed this week by video cards we're not expecting anything substantially different to the Polaris design we're likely just getting a clock speed boost on the same core count and configuration while final fantasy 15 is a terrible benchmark video cards did also spot an RX 590 entry into their database showing performance around 10 to 20 percent higher than the rx 580 by using 12 nanometer rather than 40 nanometer this performance jump should come at no increase to power consumption and concern the architecture is the same don't expect any new features of course how the RX 590 stacks up will be likely determined by its price at gigabyte rx 580 models are currently available for around 220 to 230 US dollars so we'd be hoping the rx 590 sits around 250 to 260 dollars if rumored performance is correct but who knows at this stage we'll just have to wait for an official launch we have much more concrete information on the gtx 1060 with gddr5 x memory because gigabyte and pallet have officially unveiled cards that pack the faster memory tech known as the gigabyte gtx 1060 g1 gaming d5 x 6g both the pallet gtx 1060 gaming pro OC plus these new gtx 1060 models basically used the exact same core configuration as existing GTX 10 60s which shouldn't come as a surprise similarly at least in the case of palettes card core clock speeds are in line with the standard factory overclocked GTX 1060 as for the memory configuration well is not a lot to get excited about here either the power model comes with its gddr5 x clocked at 8.8 gigabits per second on the same 192 bit bus as the gddr5 models providing 211 gigabytes per second of memory bandwidth this isn't all that impressive because there were already a few gtx 260 miles with nine gigabit per second gddr5 memory onboard providing slightly more bandwidth at 216 gigabytes per second the one thing these gddr5 X models should provide is more overclocking Headroom considering gddr5 X is designed to hit - 11 gigabits per second at the factory and can often be pushed higher than that but aside from that there really doesn't seem to be any benefit to these new gddr5 X models for consumers they're going to offer roughly the same performance as the GTX 1060 s we've been using for a few years now and to be honest that's a good thing considering the gddr5 X mods are still called GTX 10 60s they should offer the same performance as existing GTX 1060 s someone buying a GTX 1060 shouldn't need to dig into the spec sheet or look for d5x in the product name to figure out whether they're getting the regular 1060 or the faster gddr5 X 1060 so provided the performance is really the same between the two models when we get our hands on one of these cards there's no need to slam nvidia for dodgy naming with this one as to why nvidia decided to release of gddr5 X model of the GTX 1060 well that's still a bit unclear it's possible that the company purchased too many gddr5 X modules for their higher tier cars like the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080i so they needed to push out a cheaper model using gddr5 X to clear out some stock there's also been speculation that these new GTX 10 60s are using cut-down jp104 dyes rather than the usual GP 106 so this could be another way for Nvidia to clear out defective GP 104 stock but again we'll have to wait to find out on that one this next topic is something I seriously didn't think I'd be talking about ever again AMD has released a new Kirit so FM 2 + apu known as the a8 7680 this apu is based on am bees terrible excavator architecture and really who knows why the company decided to release a new excavator apu in 2018 there are a few indications that AMD were going to release a new 28 nanometer FM 2 + apu a couple of weeks back because a few motherboards from companies like asrock design we received BIOS updates to support a new current so apu and now we have an update to Emily's master product list showing a bunch of AD 7 680 listings indicating there's a new a 8 7 6 80 in town we're still not 100% sure what specs to the a 876 80 will carry but honestly who cares because literally no one should be buying it at this point no one should be buying FM 2 plus motherboards either really if you're thinking of upgrading your old CPU thing in AMD's lineup it has to be then based even if it requires a full platform upgrade don't buy anything excavator based FX or APU at least that's what we recommend okay those are the main topics for this week done let's get into some short of topics AMD has ended 32-bit driver support for their Radeon graphics cards the final version for 32-bit operating systems is version 18 9.3 from October 5th neuro releases will be for 64-bit OS is only this follows on from Nvidia who ended support for 32-bit drivers last year I'm sure the few people that still run 32-bit windows will be annoyed by this move but the vast expensive majority of people should be running 64-bit Windows at this point so really shouldn't be a loss NVIDIA has launched a new game bundle offering monster hunter world to those who purchase a geforce gtx 1070 TI gtx 1070 or gtx 1066 gigabyte between now and november 29th like with previous game bundles you'll have to buy one of these cards at a participating retailer who provides you with the game code you then redeem the code through nvidia specific redemption portal currently this is the only game bundle nvidia are running if you buy a higher or lower end pascal card you won't get anything and of course in videos new RT 8 cards also come without any bundled games AMD's vega mobile GPUs are finally seeing the light of day they are set to be included with some upper tier models of apples refreshed MacBook Pros which will be available in November there are two GPU options the Radeon Pro Vega 20 and Radeon Pro Vegas 16 each offering performance around that of an rx 560 desktop GPU or in the case of Vega 20 a little bit higher as an antique notes these GPUs are genuine Vega GPUs unlike Vega M used with Intel's KB like G which was a combination of Polaris and Vega elements however these Vega GPUs are a bit slower than Vega M's top-end configurations though they still pack four gigabytes of HP m2 for clock speeds were looking at a maximum of 13 hundred megahertz for Vega Pro 20 with 1200 a stream processors and 1185 megahertz for Vega pro 16 with a thousand and 20 for ESPYs final topic for this week in o 3d has a new color design for their GeForce r-tx graphics cards called the ITIL x3 a couple of people now just go posted images of this thing and it looks absolutely ridiculous not only is the heatsink enormous but the front of the cooler has a boatload of RGB LED lighting and there's even an OLED display on the top edge to show you GPU stats so if you want a bit of graphics card to go with your RGB light show you know 3ds new GPU will be for you alright that's it for this week's news corner we'll probably be back later in the week with another episode so it's subscribe and stay tuned for that give this video a like if you enjoyed it consider supporting us on patreon to get access to our discord chat and monthly live streams and I'll catch you next time
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