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News Corner | Intel and Ryzen CPU Pricing Update, 2.2 GHz Navi Overclocks

2019-07-19
welcome back to the hardware box news corner it's been another big week of CPU and GPU testing around here that tends to be the case when a bunch of companies launch products at the same time we still got a ton of content coming up over the next few weeks on some hotly requested topics so stay tuned for that but for now well let's look at some news stories first up I wanted to take a brief look at the CPU market and see our prices for parts are stacking up after the launch of AMD's third gen rising series it's also good we're running this segment on Friday and on earlier this week because that's where a number of CPUs got discounted for Amazon's prime day so I think we're seeing well at least what we see today is going to be more representative of how these CPUs will be priced over the coming weeks what I'm happy to see is that rise in 3000 series CPUs are selling at their MSRP we've seen from several Intel launches in the past that low supply and high demand can push up the pricing on parts like the core i5 8400 or Core oh nine nine to 900k but that isn't happening with these rising chips a quick browse on Amazon shows all parts sewing at their MSRP although right now the 3900 X is out of stock with a similar story at new egg for older isin parts the Rison 720 700 X did briefly drop to $200 before the last week has remained steady at two hundred and fifty dollars meanwhile the rise in 727 hundred is two hundred dollars at several retailers and dropped briefly to one hundred and fifty dollars at Newegg these prices are basically pinning AMD's second gen eight core chips against their gen 6 core CPUs which makes them decent options for productivity but perhaps not quite as good as third gen for gaming horizon 520 600 is available for around 125 US dollars which is a great price for a 6 core CPU as is the Rison 5 1600 for just a hundred and five dollars both of these options will be really suitable for budget builders that just want to jump on the aim for platform now and give themselves an upgrade path to 3rd gen rising when they can afford it or perhaps even future CPUs we've only seen these low prices for the past week or so and while that won't give the same performances third gen they're still a great option Apple hundred and fifty dollars on the Intel front the Koran nine ninety nine hundred KF has been on sale at new week for four hundred and twenty dollars but by the time this video goes live I think that sale will have just finished so yes at times if you wanted Intel's eight core CPU with no I GPU however it was only last week that we saw the CPU hit four hundred and forty dollars in a brief sale so who knows maybe we'll drop in price again the other big one to look out for right now is the core i5 ninety 400 F which to be fair has been sitting around one hundred and fifty dollars for a while now at some retailers but considering the standard list price is more like hundred eighty dollars it'll be an interesting battle between it and some of the Rison parts the cry 5 9600 KF has dropped down to two hundred and thirty dollars from its standard two hundred and sixty dollar price in the last few days at Amazon and Newegg as well although again that sale might be ending soon meanwhile the non F models don't seem to be getting much love on the price drop front in general I think it's safe to say burn a great time for buying CPUs and PC building with prices like this hopefully we do see more competition and price drops as the year goes on I definitely think that will be the case at this week's fortune brainstorm tech conference Intel CEO Robert Swan has talked more openly about the reasons behind the company struggles with delivering 10 nanometers on time as many analysts have expected and known about for some time someone admits that Intel being overly aggressive with their design for 10 nanometer led to delays and issues Swann is quoted as saying the delay was somewhat a function of what we've been able to do in the past which in essence was defying the odds at a time when it was getting harder and harder we set a more and more aggressive goal from that it just took us longer he also said that Intel prioritized performance at a time when predictability was really important specifically someone said that the end goal for 10 nanometer ended up being a 2.7 times improvement to transistor density over last gen 14 nanometer nodes which was a significant step above intel's usual 2.0 x target over two years having faced lengthy delays with this sort of goal Intel is getting back to 2.0 X scaling with their 7 nanometer parts which Swann confirmed will be available in two years in their belief there is lots of road left in Moore's law but as well Intel looking at ways to package chips for additional gains some of that tech we've already seen bit so there are still huge question marks over how ten nanometer will perform in its final iteration the current theory is that there will be some gains for low-power processes for things like laptops and so on but it seems that Intel might not be able to clock these parts as high as with 14 nanometer which won't make 10 nanometer all that well suited to high-performance chips for desktop users still 10 nanometer CPUs in some form will definitely be available later at this year so yeah I'll be interesting to see what they bring this next story is very straightforward tweak town asked invidious Jeff Fischer at the launch event for the company's new g4 super graphics cards whether there would be a geforce r-tx 28 ET i super the answer was there would not be so the 2082 i super does not exist and this does make sense Nvidia already sells the titan ITX as a super expensive higher tier version of the 2080 ti with the 28 ET is sitting at 4352 cuda cores and the titan i TX at 4608 there wouldn't have been a lot of room to move for the 28 ET i super other than maybe offering the titan the ITX core with 12 gigabytes of gddr5 or gigabytes there were some rumors suggesting a super skew for the 2080 TRR in production but clearly this won't eventuate into an actual product because we seem to have an official word from nvidia on this matter for some reason once again stories of motherboard vendors enabling PCIe 4.0 on older a m4 400 series motherboards are doing the rounds while it does seem that some currently available BIOS versions for boards such as the tough B 450 pro gaming from a soos do have PCI 4.0 enabled this is not officially supported by AMD and will be blocked with future buyers and a GC revisions so people with these boards will soon be stuck in a situation where they'll have to choose between the latest optimizations for Rison processes and PCIe 4.0 compatibility aim these official position remains that PCIe 4.0 is exclusive to x5 70 boards as they cannot guarantee the 400 series boards will have their required signal reliability for PCI 4.0 to function correctly over time we expect that these motherboards will have PCI 4.0 disabled with already BIOS so it's nothing to get excited about and certainly we choose the ladies of G subversions over PCI 4.0 for most people Toshiba memory is getting rebranded with a new name of cheok SIA at the start of October yep a brand that has a fair bit of traction in the memory market will be completely erased and replaced with some random name that no one has ever heard of Toshiba do say the new name is a combination of the Japanese word for memory which i think is pronounced kkeok sue and the Greek word for value which is Axia but still to me it doesn't seem like a great name so kkeok SIA is the new brand name for the second largest nan manufacturer in the world there are also plans for an IPO in the works after the company was sold to Bain Capital in 2017 for a massive 18 billion dollars Toshiba memory also still recovering from a significant power outage that affected a huge amount of non production that we covered in news corner not that long ago Igor from Igor's lab has managed to get a Radeon rx 5700 XT running at 2.2 gigahertz through an SP PT mod SP PT is short for soft power play table and using it is kind of an interesting way to overclock basically AM buddies driver reads a power play table from the bios of the GPU and writes that into the Windows registry to form a soft power play table from there you can go in and modify the SP PT 2 raised power limits which lead to higher clocks of course with this sort of mod you should have a highly capable cooling solution like a liquid cooling box that you don't run into any film problems when you do raise that Powell in it Igor playing around with the plus 95 percent power limit on the RX 5700 XT as well as a hike or overclock although despite being listed as plus 95 percent it didn't actually double power consumption instead there was only a small game to around 250 watts under load up from 215 watts and in his shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark this was enough to take the RX 5700 XT from performing below in RTX 2070 super to performing near the level of the r-tx 2080 founders edition stock this sort of overclocking ya won't be for the faint-hearted but it just goes to show how much is still left in the RX 5700 XT if you have the cooling capacity final topic of this week intel has been secretly offering a super high performance version of this on platinum server processes but it hasn't been visible in the intel's arc unless you know the specific model number only search for it officially the highest part intel lists is the xeon Platinum 80 to 80 a cascade Lake server chip with twenty eight cores a base frequency of 2.7 gigahertz and a maximum turbo clock of 4.0 gigahertz it is a two hundred and five watt TDP and retails for a touch over ten thousand US dollars unless you need the models with higher memory support which cost even more however as it turns out there is a higher model available the xeon Platinum 8284 it provides a 300 megahertz increase to the base clock and in doing so raises the TDP to 240 watts however for the privilege of this small clock speed increase you'll be slugs for at least a 1 K unit price of fifteen thousand four hundred and sixty dollars so yeah it costs roughly five thousand five hundred dollars for that frequency pump given the chip is not in Arkham less you know the exact model number this is typically going to be available only to select customers perhaps even as a custom order the pricing might also sound ridiculous and in some ways it is but serve the customers can be willing to pay enormous prices for small performance improvements depending on their setup and needs that's it for this week's news corner as always you can subscribe for more news corn episodes every week consider supporting us on patreon like we mentioned at the end of basically every video I guess you can hit the like button too if you enjoyed it as well there's always a nice thing to do I'll catch you in the next one
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