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News Corner | Nvidia CEO Slams Radeon VII & Lies About FreeSync, AMD Shows Radeon VII Benchmarks

2019-01-11
welcome back to the hardware own box news corner what will be the final part of our CES news roundup coverage to show well it seems to have been pretty busy as it always is both Steve and I have very glad we did venture over to Las Vegas to do with you know the noisy show floor massive crowds packed schedules that sort of thing seems like covering this sort of event from home is certainly the way to go also before we get into the news topics just want to say thanks to you guys for all the support we've received over the last couple of weeks firstly in relation to the NB CES coverage and the whole lead-up to that you might have seen me receive quite a lot of negative feedback on our various rumors about what AMD will do a CES most of that I think was from unreasonable fanboys but it certainly was quite nice to hear support from the vast majority of our regular audience which are I guess more reasonable people and secondly for the overwhelming feedback we received on our RT X 2060 video a few days ago where we described how NVIDIA has basically screwed us over on that one it's really touching to hear how many of you appreciate our coverage on these launches and products we're still hoping to work through that one with NVIDIA obviously it's a busy time right now at CES going on but I think the community getting behind us is helping get the message through to the right people so yeah hopefully there'll be some progress on that soon moving on to the actual news topics Nvidia CEO Jenson Wong made some really unusual I guess you'd have to say comments to PC world in relation to both AMD's upcoming Radeon seven graphics card and free sync monitors when speaking about the Radeon seven one said its underwhelming before going on to elaborate that the performance is lousy and there's nothing new there's no rate racing no AI it's seven animators with HBM memory that barely keeps up with a twenty eighty and if we turn on DL SS we'll crush it and if we turn on ray-tracing we'll crush it he also said it's a weird launch maybe they thought of it this morning now it's not unusual for Jensen to come out and make these sorts of statements about a competitor's products but these ones are pretty funny in my opinion mostly because there's really no way Nvidia would actually know that the card barely keeps up with a twenty eighty because hasn't really been released they also wouldn't know if performance is lousy of course he's right that the Radeon seven doesn't support rate racing but it seems most people don't actually care about that anyway so it's mostly just a load of crap out of nvidia ceo's mouth jensen also spoke a bunch of crap about freesync monoliths claiming freesync was never proven to work that Nvidia invented the area of adaptive sync and that they do not even work with aim B's graphics cards now I can't say I've tested every single adaptive sync monitor on the market but I've certainly tested a fair few at this point and every single one has in fact worked the issues in video showed off in their keynote completely ridiculous in my opinion I would certainly immediately RMA a monitor if I ever saw those problems especially things like flickering and they're certainly not indicative of the wider adaptive sync monitor ecosystem so to say that most freezing monitors don't work is a load of fecal matter and I'd say a claim like that is bordering on a complete lie so hope people aren't actually taking their statements seriously the other GPU news to emerge in the last few days comes from AMD CTO mark Papermaster in an interview with the street key paper master says that the company is really excited to start on the high end without 7 nanometre Radeon 7 but crucially he goes on to say and you will see the announcements over the course of the year as we refresh across our radeon program this indicates that AMD will indeed release more radeon products in 2019 they're not just going to release the Radeon 7 and call it a day I guess this is an overly surprising news we're still expecting Navi to launch at some point likely towards the back half of the year but it's nice to get an actual statement from an AMD executive that reiterates more GPS come later down the line intel has quietly pushed out more ninth-generation processes and ant x followed some new entries into intel's and delt australia's databases that go beyond the simple 6 new products we talked about in news corner a few days ago none of these products are super interesting but we'll go over them anyway we have the core i7 9700 is basically a locked version of the 9700 K at a 65 watt TDP and with the slightly lower maximum frequency of 4.7 gigahertz still on 8 cores without hyper threading then have the core i3 9100 a fork or four thread CPU at up to 4.2 gigahertz again locked at 65 watts then there's the pentium g 54 20 a to call four thread cpu at 3.8 gigahertz even more strange is the core i3 80-100 F spotted in Intel's database it's a core i3 8100 without night GPU of course but it's interesting that they've quietly pushed out an F model of the CPU with eighth generation branding as opposed to integrating it into their ninth gen lineup then a whole lot of other details on these processes but it seems the Intel are intent on fleshing out the 9th gen series with everything from low-end pentium parts right up to the 9900 K hard OCP has found a number of AMD Radeon 7 benchmark numbers buried in the footnotes of AMD's press release and currently tabulated them for everyone to see AMD tested both the Radeon 7 and Vega 64 on an Intel Core i7 7700 K test rig with 16 gigabytes of ddr4 3,000 memory running AMD driver 1850 and Windows 10 with every game tested at 4k using maximum settings on average you can see the Radeon seven is around 29% faster across 25 games but naturally there's a bit of a spread here games like Forza horizon for hitman 2 and monster hunter world saves smaller gains with hitman 2 delivering a surprisingly low 7% uplift in a mb/s testing then there are outliers on the opposite end of the scale like a fall at 76 is 68% uplift and strange brigades 42% interestingly aimed at you strange Brigade to show the Radeon 7 are performing the RT X 2080 by a healthy margin the other games AMD showed battlefield 5 and 505 deliver more modest 33 and 26% games respectively over vega 64 most titles are around that mark as well of course it's always worth taking performance numbers from a manufacturer with a grain of salt we strongly encourage you wait for independent reviews to verify how the Radeon 7 performs before you go out and buy one some interesting power supplies have been spotted by an antic at CES from one of the larger OD amps FSP while not a known brand that sells directly to consumers FSP manufacture a lot of power supplies for these known brands at CES have been demonstrating their line of twin redundant our supplies so these are basically a standard ATX PSU form factor but inside are two separate power supplies which are automatically switched between in the case one fails they also hot-swappable so you can replace a failed unit without powering down the system handy for some niche use cases the company already has 500 watt and 700 watt units and is working on a bigger 900 watt unit for higher end systems FSB also showed off a liquid-cooled power supply which just baffles me as to why anyone would want or need that sort of product they have a $700 1200 watt unit and a $400 850 watt unit that will be available near the end of q1 both of which still have fans in the event the liquid loop fails when the loop is working the power ratings increase for each power supply up to 1,400 watts and a thousand watts respectively they also say these units should be installed in the top of the system just in case again the loop fails having a liquid core PSU just seems like a disaster waiting to happen if something goes wrong and liquid drips onto the active components it could cause a short circuit and blow stuff up really seems like the last component you'd actually want to liquid cool and it's not all that necessary but whatever FSB has some new units for those that do want something like this we love their benchmarks here at hardware in box so it's good to hear there's another one ready for our consumption in the form of 3d marks first ray-tracing benchmark Port Royal we tend not to use 3d mark for our GPU benchmark videos because we like to stick to real-world games but for those that do want to test out the ray tracing ability of their GPU especially their r-tx GPU you can now download portroyal and give it a try kit guru tested out the new benchmark and got these results across the RT x 2060 to RTX 2080 TI unsurprisingly the RT x 2080 i has a bit more than double the ray tracing performance which makes sense because nvidia writes the 28 ET is capable of 10 Giga rows per second competitors 5 degrees per second for the RT x 2060 toshiba has launched the first hard drive with a 16 terabyte capacity called the mg 0 8 series it's a 3.5 inch helium-filled drive consisting of 9 1.7 terabyte platters Toshiba continues to be the only company using nine platter designs in 3.5 inch drives it also uses two-dimensional magnetic rock or TDM ah with thinner platters and TDK developed heads unfortunately there's no performance numbers just yet but the drives are rated for a 550 terabyte annualized workload and had a 2.5 million hour MTBF the drives also come with a five-year warranty there's no firm word on price or release date just yet mostly because Toshiba says it will take about four to six months to validate these drives with their partners alright time for another wave of monitor news first up we have some new monitors from Lenovo we have the Y 27 GQ which is the first 27-inch 1440p 240 Hertz monitor to hit the market using a new panel from a Optronics it's a TN panel of course to hit that sort of refresh rate with the response time listed of 0.5 milliseconds there's also 90% DCI p3 coverage and gsync and it's expected to hit the market in April for around $1,000 so yep that's pretty expensive Lenovo also has the Y 44 W a 43 inch double wide monitor with a resolution of 3840 by 1200 so basically 2 16:10 panels side-by-side it comes with a 144 Hertz refresh rate and freesync plus it's ready for display HDR 400 it'll hit the market also in April for $1,200 dell has joined in with to monitor announcements at CES they'll be the first company to release a laptop with a 240 Hertz 1080p display that will be available in March as a configuration option for their Alienware m15 laptop the company also has through their Alienware brand a 55 inch oled gaming display which i guess is more of a TV it does support a 4k resolution at 120 Hertz plus some seriously decent HDR no word on pricing release date just yet but it does look quite interesting final topic for this week the division 2 will be available not on Steam but on the new epic games store this is a pretty major pick up for the epic game store which seems to be attracting developers through it's much higher cut of revenue for developers compared to steam the game was listed on steams to begin with and Ubisoft will honor any purchases that have been made through Steam but since this announcement the game has been removed in favor of a listing on the epic games store along with Ubisoft own you Play Store that's it for this week's news corner much just a straight week of news as you might expect from CES time but we'll be back with some non news coverage tomorrow I think Steve's got something interesting planned as always you can subscribe to get what is usually weekly news coverage in your inbox every Friday or there abouts consider supporting us on patreon so you can continue to buy our own review samples but mostly so you can join our discord chat and luck few live streams I'll catch you in the next one
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