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welcome back to the hardware unbox news corner today's episode it's gonna be a bit different to some of our past news corner episodes and that at least the first half is going to go through some odds and ends from our suite of Rison and Navi reviews over the last week there hasn't been too many new stories to emerge this week with all this review action will cover the big ones later but at least for now let's talk about some review related stuff so let's start with one of the bigger issues I'd guess you have to say from the reviews this week and that's the whole bio slash motherboard clock speed and booth situation issue I guess this done after an antic discovered their MSI motherboard wasn't boosting AMD's 3rd gen rise in parts correctly and went on a mission to update every result to account for improvements to lightly threaded tasks so for starters Steve used an MSI x5 70 creation motherboard for his testing and spotted no issues with boost behavior or performance so as far as we can tell our results are representative of the true performance of these CPUs our 3900 X for example did clock up to 4.6 gigahertz with the single thread loaded as expected gamers Nexus also did an investigation with a gigabyte board comparing the performance of various BIOS and a juicer revisions and found very small performance gains in some situations compared to the early BIOS versions but overall the findings weren't significant enough to change the overall margins or thoughts all that much it was only those like an antique that were having issues that were pretty significant and required a large overhaul of their results it does seem like every release we see these sorts of reports come out about how people have tested stuff wrong and there's always 10% more performance left to be waiting to be unlocked I guess you have to say with the right configuration but this rarely pans out just seems like a few people having typical early teething issues with their motherboards we didn't have any such issues and yeah we expect the results will be representative of what you guys would get if you do end up buying these processes with that said overall we have done some additional testing with other motherboards and I found that gigabytes X 570 boards seem to provide the best performance in lightly threaded gaming workloads didn't really affect our day 1 review but with some of the other games Steve is testing for the 30 game benchmark video that's coming soon you know two small games with gigabyte similar to what gamers Nexus or when you tested the latest BIOS versions Steve will have more to say on that in the 30 game benchmark video which will be comparing the 3900 X to the 9900 Kate stock and overclocked in many more titles than recovered in the first video that big benchmark will be going live next week so stay tuned for that arriving on the channel the one thing that was impacted from our day 1 coverage was our world wars are your results we noticed in that game that all rise and CP was performed around the same and well behind Intel which we thought was odd but as with all these launches you can get some interesting numbers then a few days later we received a patch for World War Z and spotted a huge performance uplift Verizon which Steve mentioned briefly a few videos ago well we reached out to AMD and they confirm that a patch did get released for World War Z their improved rise ins performance significantly the patch actually launched before we did our testing but the epic game store didn't deliver it to us until just a few days ago the update brings Rison much closer to Intel when CPU limited will be using those updated results for our ongoing testing like a review of the 3,800 x that we want to get to as well as of course the big game benchmarks the other stuff I would like to touch on briefly relates to Radeon image sharpening that video that went live yesterday did better than we expected and got quite a few comments so there's a few things that I just want to quickly cover obviously the main focus of the video was resolution downsampling and comparing Radeon image sharpening versus DL SS for this task that's mostly because both AMD and NVIDIA have been talking about these respective features for improving performance at high resolutions a lot of you guys have been asking about how Radeon image sharpening fares against other sharpening tools including ray shade and sweet effects along with invidious own tool found within freestyle since there's been a lot of interest in that I will cover that in a follow-up video so stay tuned one thing I will say though is we aren't going to use random image sharpening for our performance testing in the future some people have been saying to compare the rx 5700 XT with image sharpening at 4k to Nvidia cards and native resolutions pretty much not going to happen the reason is you can use down sampling brush wrapping with any GPU you just need a tool like Ray Shane it might not be as good but it should get close I would spoil that further maybe just provides the easiest yet with radiant image sharpening and are the first company to talk about using sharpening in this way with their GPUs anyway I've got enough extra thoughts on this to fill an entire new video so stay tuned for that initial impressions though are that it's the best and easiest solution to harness the power of resolution downsampling while not being totally unique or original more to come though okay now into some news topics for the week haven't been to many of note with the mega week of AMD benchmarks and so on but I'll just run through the exciting ones here to start with video cards and hardware Lux have revealed that MSI will be launching seven custom Radeon rx 5700 series graphics cards while this information did leak from them we've basically confirmed that everything is legit and it sounds like MSI isn't too concerned about this information floating around before launch so the seven cards in question are split between for 5700 XT models and three for the 5700 both GPUs are getting air boost Mac OC and gaming X models and there is an image showing off what the Mac OC will look like if you couldn't guess it's like many of MSI's custom GPU designs over the past few years especially for AMD GPUs the 5700 XT is also getting an Evoque OSI model unfortunately don't have much other information to go on aside from these model names these cards are set to bring quite a substantial improvement over the AMD reference cooler for Navi we've seen lots of complaints about the blower fan running hot and loud so I think these be few designs will go a long way to alleviating the issues there and it seems with MSI offering gaming X models which are typically reasonably high and cause AI beats aren't going to sit around and only offer a few Navi options you've also been interesting to see how far a RBS will push factory overclocks given it seems the 5700 XT in particular has quite a bit of headroom MSI will be bringing their AIB cards to the market in August it seems like this is the default time for basically or AI bees perhaps some will leave it to September but it shouldn't be too far away we'd probably advise those interested in Navi to hold off for the IRB models especially if they come in at the same price or close to a mary's reference cards and of course this would be models from all sorts of vendors if you're after a more extreme cooling solution for your Navi GPU ek waterboxx has a new full coverage GPU block for AMD's Radeon rx 5700 series the unit is compatible with both reference GPUs and coal plant covers all of the GPU GDD are six memory and vrm we're getting eke as usual open split flow micro channels and sealing through high quality EPDM or rings as the materials the base is made of copper or nickel plated copper while the top is available in acrylic or black acetal if you go for the acrylic option the block itself is illuminated with RGB while the assertive option gets an RGB white corner element you can also add on a backplate if you would like these navi box will begin shipping on July 26 with pricing around 125 250 euros depending on the model throw in an extra 27 and 34 euros for the backplate so certainly quite expensive relative to the price of the GPU but as an enthusiast product that's always what comes with the territory and I believe Steve is getting these to review or at least test out so yeah I guess we'll have some more Navi related testing on the channel shortly with these water box for a brief period Intel's Core I 990 900 KF got a price cut and spotted by text bot and PC Gamer a few days ago the I 990 100k F was listed at just 440 US dollars on Amazon which is around 40 to 50 dollars less than the usual asking price for the CPU and quite a decent deal considering the high price in tusk 8 core has usually occupied unfortunately the deal was extremely short-lived as of right now the 1900 K F is back up to a standard $480 so the discount wasn't permanent in fact it didn't even last for a couple of days there have been some rumors that Intel would soon discount the prices of their ninth gen core processors in response to Amy's aggressive rise in 3000 series products and pricing but so far that hasn't eventuated maybe we'll get that soon final topic I just want to cover is the state of Emma size motherboards with horizon 3000 series CPUs we've been getting a number of tweets and comments at us about people having issues with MSI 400 series motherboards in particular P 450 boards with ambe's new CPUs so just want to chat a little bit about that here firstly we haven't seen any issues with B 450 boards ourselves with their gen rise and chips including the tomahawk that we've loved to recommend a fair bit we're not 100% sure where the issues could be but hopefully they will be resolved soon through BIOS updates we do know that a lot of om like MSI didn't recieve CPUs like the 3700 X and 3900 X before they went on sale to the public so it seems testing has been done with other samples and might have contributed to some of these problems not 100% sure whether that's been the cause but we did hear that again yeah some of those CPUs that you guys now buy weren't actually available to OEM to test with until the final release yeah the problem MSI and other board vendors have is small BIOS chip sizes many older motherboards have just a 128 megabit aka 16 megabyte flash chip for storing the BIOS but every time AMD pushes out and UAG some micro code update the size of it grows substantially to accommodate all the new CPUs this is putting limits on boards that were built using once when yet megabit chips rather than the larger 256 megabit options some board vendors have resorted to releasing light versions of their BIOS with compatibility for all the chips stripped out and often with simplified interfaces MSI seem to be doing something unusual and releasing revised 400 series boards with larger BIOS chips they're calling these boards the max a series with everything from the export 7e gaming plus to the B 450 tomahawk - even the a320 ma Pro getting a max version this updates the board with a 32 megabyte BIOS chip and allows full compatibility with AMD same for lineup without needing to cut down on the bias interface or features they should also ship with out-of-the-box support for third gen Rison the reason this is important is that 400 series boards will remain popular for quite some time especially with X 570 boards often costing at least $200 for budget builders of B 450 motherboard is the best choice and MSI wants to continue offering the best B 450 boards on the market hence the minor revision that's it for this week's news corner subscribe to get the segment in you nook severy week consider supporting us on patreon it's been a big week I'll catch you in the next one