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News Corner | i7-9700K Without Hyper-Threading? Fake GTX 1170 Benchmarks

2018-07-27
welcome back to the Hadron box news corner seems like there's been a fair bit of news this week which is good because the last few weeks have been rather slow in comparison well perhaps I shouldn't say news because some of the bigger stories to emerge this week are actually rumors relating to major upcoming launches from Intel and NVIDIA so I'll be talking a bit about those and whether they appear legitimate followed by a selection of genuine news topics so let's get into it over the past few days it's been hard to escape rumors surrounding Intel's upcoming eight core processes allegedly to be the I nine ninety nine hundred K and I seven ninety seven hundred K multiple reports have emerged throughout the week claiming to provide specifications for these chips and there's a few interesting things to come of that firstly these rumors are suggesting the Christ 790 700 K will feature eight cores but just eight threads in other words it will not support hyper threading this rumour first appeared in a set of specifications posted on Chinese website kilala and then a few days later an i7 9700 k appeared in the C soft Sandra database also showing a processor with just eight threads it seems unusual that Intel would make the i7 9700 K apart without hyper threading considering basically all core i7 desktop CPUs in the past have included the feature we'd also end up with the situation where the core i7 8700 K a six core 12 thread CPU has more logical cores than the 9700 K not that it would necessarily perform better than a CPU with eight physical cores but it'd be an interesting situation for Intel's lineup however it is possible Intel would remove hyper threading from Knights Genco i7 parts to make room for a quraĆ­an nine at the top end that does include hyper threading as seems to be the case from these rumors the I $9.99 hundred K is alleged to be an eight-course sixteen thread CPU and that would cascade down to eight core eight thread core i7 parts then six core six thread core i5 parts and so forth so I guess they would still be that clear difference between each product segment with two separate sources for this room it seems like this hyper threading business might be a legitimate though of course with all rumors we suggest you with a grain of salt what's less clear is the clock speeds these processes will be using the cool allure post suggest the 9700 K will be clocked at a 3.6 gigahertz base and have a max turbo clock of 4.9 gigahertz and that base clock is also seen in the Sandra listing we're also looking at 12 megabytes of level 3 cache then the 9900 K would come in also at a 3.6 gigahertz base but then boost up to a maximum of 5 gigahertz with 16 megabytes of level 3 cache both CPUs apparently have a 95 watt TDP though that reading tends to be pretty meaningless these days what makes me question these clock speed figures particularly the turbo clocks is that the kalila article also lists the core i5 and 9600 K as having a 4.6 gigahertz turbo clock however Intel's official documents that leaked the 9600 K a couple of weeks ago showed the chip is topping out at 4.5 gigahertz it's a small discrepancy but it throws into question the validity of the report I think the final products will end up being pretty close to what is being reported on here but an official launch shouldn't be too far away so let's keep an eye out on this one the other major rumor from this week surrounded a gtx 1170 benchmark posted on wucf tech this one to me doesn't look right from a number of perspectives so let's dig into it the benchmark is a screen photo of a 3d mark fire strike score which is suspicious in itself as it's not actual screen shot and the score is seen as 20 to 999 which will put it in GT X 1080 Ti territory there's not overly surprising considering with Pascal in video launch the gtx 1070 with 980 TI level performance however it's the specifications that are pretty dubious the card is listed as having 16 gigabytes of memory which seems pretty high the volta based Titan VIII only includes 12 gig of memory and we know how expensive memory is these days so doubling the capacity from the gtx 1070 seems not quite right especially is a lot of today's games don't make full use of 8 gigabytes at this point even more suspicious are the clock speeds the card is listed as pushing up to 25 52 megahertz which is more than 800 megahertz higher than the highest clock Pascal card and certainly well above what most Pascal cards will do when overclocked heavily at this point it seems certain Envy is next-gen cards will be using TS MCS twelve nanometer manufacturing process and the gains from 16 nanometers used with Pascal to 12 nanometers simply won't give you that sort of clock speed gain so I'm calling this one fake and I think a lot of other people probably have come to that conclusion by now as well in legitimate NVIDIA GPUs the company has launched a new bundle to try and push existing Pascal cards out through the door as fast as they can if we are offering a free Kingston SSD with eligible purchases of some graphics cards either a 120 gig model or a 240 gig model depending on the SKU it appears these bundles are only for the GTX 1050 TR and GTX 1060 so no higher end cards unfortunately and it's also UK only at this stage still if you live in UK and you want one of these graphics cards you may as well get one with a free SSD this story appeared in our patreon exclusive discord chat earlier in the week and I thought it was pretty interesting for the more enthusiast builders out there overclocking master build Zoid published a video earlier in the week going through some of the vrm configurations on upcoming B 450 motherboards and slammed gigabyte in particular for completely faking their 8+3 phase vrm design furthers that love the technical stuff here's 50 minute long rant is worth a watch but essentially gigabytes vrm design actually omits one of the MOSFETs in each of the phases and doesn't use the controller that's actually eight phase compatible so the boards only truly use a four plus three phase design this is despite the board's appearing to have eight phases as a inductors or chokes are visible gigabyte has since come out and admitted they're eight plus three phase marketing was an error and mentioned to us via email that they'll be updating their product packaging for these be 450 boards to correct the error gigabytes website has also been updated removing any reference to the eight plus three design for the affected boards will have some performance metrics for these gigabyte p450 boards coming next week and it's pretty interesting stuff so stay tuned for that one this story came in screaming hot house writing up today's news corner episode Intel have announced that the first system is powered by ten nanometer processes will be available in the second half of 2019 in time to the holiday season previously Intel delayed mass production of ten nanometers - sometime in 2019 so this update gives some clarity on when that will actually be and of course it seems Intel isn't counting that one laptop with a low volume ten nanometer chip inside when they made this statement 14 nanometer will still play a part in 2019 with Intel stating they will have a leadership 14 nanometer product lineup for 2019 whatever that means and 10 animated data center chips will come shortly after consumer chips in late 2019 though no exact timeframe for that was given knowing Intel struggles to get 10 nanometer functioning it'll be interesting to see how it stacks up come late 2019 and especially how it will compete with 7 nanometer tech from other foundries here's another Intel story for you the company has launched new bean Canyon knucks yep bean Canyon which packed 28 watt coffee like you processes with RS plus graphics 655 inside the processors include a fork or a thread CPU clocked up to 4 point 5 gigahertz in the highest in core i7 8559 new plus the beefier 655 GPU the PAX double the execution units of Intel standard integrated graphics the Knux also includes stuff like two sodium's slots a 2.5 inch drive bay and some morals and m22 280s SD slot Intel wireless AC 95 60 plenty of ports including Thunderbolt 3 it's basically all the stuff you'd usually expect from a nook beam Canyon won't be super powerful or anything like that but it could be a decent solution for some use cases these knocks will go on sale in early August although we don't have pricing just yet last week one of our headline stories was the problems with the latest MacBook Pro specifically throttling concerns well this week Apple has released a software update that addresses some of these issues apple claims a missing digital key in the firmware was the cause of aggressive underclocking under high loads and temperatures and they've released a new version of Mac OS hi Sierra to fix that now digital key sounds like the world of crap to me but the patch does actually modify how the CPU behaves under load and as a result performance is noticeably improved it's still not at the level you'd expect from a properly cooled core I 9 processor in a larger laptop so Apple's thermal design is still restricting the processes somewhat but at least it's not throttling aggressively AMD's risin 5 2500 X has appeared in an OEM system from Acer the 2500 X hasn't been officially announced by AMD just yet but it's expected to be a 4 core 8 threads CPU clocked at 3.6 gigahertz with a boost clock of 4.0 gigahertz the CPU should launch soon alongside a risin 320 300 X so it's probably a mistake on Asus part to put up this new nitro in 5100 system ahead of time de nouveaux makers of the world's most aggressive and effective anti-piracy solution for games has sued the founder of piracy group revolt who were the first to crack the technology through the help of Bulgaria's police the founder was allegedly identified as ARCA voxi probably a terrible pronunciation there who had his personal PC seized among other things voxi said he would stop his de nouveaux cracking efforts immediately as a result of the legal action it'll be interesting to see how that legal case ends up and whether voxi actually broke any laws in his efforts to remove de nouveaux from games final news topic from this week the guys over at PC Gamer have tested Monster Hunter World on Pacey and that was quite demanding so prepare your systems for what could be a tough game to run one of their editors had a gtx 980ti and using the high preset at 1440p delivered under 60fps and another had a 7700 HQ laptop with the gtx 1070 and got around 45 FPS on the highest preset at 1080p of course we'll take a look at how the game performs across a wider range of hardware around its launch on August 9th that's it for this week's news corner if you liked this segment consider subscribing to get it in your inbox every Friday and hit that Bell icon so YouTube actually bothers to tell you about it also we have a patreon 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