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as we didn't get to but we went through a lot of them I don't know how long the video ended up being but pretty long yeah pretty long yeah anyway thanks for watching and I'm gonna hand it over to Tim and I guess we'll see you next time welcome back to harbor unboxed today we've got Tim on hand everyone and we thought what better than to do a Q&A session actually yeah we really thought is there anything better we can do anyway let's get to the questions alright so the first question we have he is from Jared stick and if you guys haven't noticed Jared Tex Jared Tech sorry in the comments below click on his username head over to his channel and check out his stuff cuz he makes some really cool content anyway his question was after all the major harbour releases this year what are you expecting or hoping to see next year it's pretty good question I think next year for PC hardware probably Rison - and that's early in the year so that's gonna be a pretty big deal I'm hoping to see an increase of at least 15% now and so that's probably down to IPC improvements and frequency stuff and then we've got of course in videos voltar is also expected fairly yeah probably mid you'd probably probably there yeah that'll be good that'll be either like what GeForce 11 or GeForce it's 20 whatever they go whatever they go with and I think the only other thing I could think of is affordable ddr4 memory that would be nice yeah I'm also looking forward to the HDR displays actually coming out for series this time we've seen them at CES last or this year I think yeah first care but all sorts of delays and they've kind of held them back a bit but hopefully they'll be out in the market and yeah hopefully some OLED stuff some high refresh 4k stuff here high refresh rate 4k displays know you're running it well that's true well maybe with volta alright so the next question is from rookie gamer aka Ark so for anyone looking for a new mana what will be the best solution under $200 and was the advantage of a VA panel over TN both panel with one millisecond greater great response times yet and uses mainly for gaming and watching movies so when it comes to minors under $200 you're pretty much limited to 1080p you can sometimes find 1440p on a sale for around that price but you can get 1080p 14 144 Hertz are for around that price that's probably my recommendation there I love my high refresh gaming as for you know VA vs. TN VA is basically a better version of ten it's a similar sort of technology not quite the same as as IPs but it has you know your better viewing angles better contrast ratio better colors than ten but very similar in terms of its response times it's still very good for gaming and ghosting and that sort of thing yeah so basically if you're looking for a panel and there's a VA or a tee an option you should pretty much always choose the VA sounds good to me and I suppose for affordable monitors as well at that tourney PE the high refresh rate sort of makes sense because you're not gonna be affording really high-end graphics cards yeah that's for so I think for the type of games as well there will take advantage of those higher refresh rates you can sort of get away with a 1060 as well like quite champions for example comes to and for me you've done really well in it yeah yeah alright next question we have here is from Howells Bentley harbour unboxed in your personal opinion do you hope that AMD will keep pushing or do you think they will crash and burn once more ouch okay no I don't think they'll crash and burn I'm quite confident in 2018 that will probably be aimed as year 2018 there but a lot of exciting things to come I think they've got a very solid architecture with Zen and yeah like we said we got Zen too coming I'm hoping to say I don't really know what to say percentage-wise in terms of gains but really hoping for about 15% at least 15% yeah and this still room for a Mew to grow into the other product categories we've only just started to see their you know rise and mobile stuff coming out so hopefully in 2018 they'll be able to grow into that field which is you know massive so yeah it can't see them crashing and burning no I don't think they will I think there's yeah 2018 I'm calling now will be am Dez you don't want to go on a PC games or anything I'm really cool the whole we are okay next question is from Adam W can you do a giveaway over on patreon for those of you that send you some love every month yes I first of all thank you to you guys that do give us a bit of love each month and this is definitely something I've been thinking of doing first I was a bit hesitant to create a patron only giveaway I thought that might upset a few people but the more I think about it the more I think it makes sense and yeah the guys that support us directly each month by giving that bit of extra money it really does help us out I think giving back to them or some sort of giveaway and it probably won't be anything major like a full system giveaway but something would be really nice to do and now that we do have Tim coming on board full-time and that's something that Tim's really keen revamp is the patreon stuff next up we have a question from mark sepra concer if i butchered that second time there mate okay the question is hey Steve are you going to work on your patreon page in near future like set some specific goals or create more stuff for the patrons well I think that's probably one since Tim like I said is coming on board knee Tim's really keen to revamp the patron we were just talking about that earlier so let you answer that with some of the things you're thinking of doing yes you might have seen that the patreon is kind of a little bit neglected over the past couple years obviously you still appreciate people who are basically giving us donations at the moment but yeah we're looking to make some changes some add some some new tiers to bring some you know cool additional benefits for people who do support us on patreon and where we can get that stuff up and live on you know in the next couple weeks maybe some you know ability need to chat to us through a place like disk or something like that I think would be really cool and a couple of other things that you'll see probably pretty soon on patreon yeah I like that and like I said it's not just Tim also helping with the patron just help me with crane the content gives me some time to jump on there and create some content for the patrons so yeah that's gonna be good I think yeah okay the next question is from I I I suppose it could be LL or I I anyway the question is why do games lag even though fpso frames per second is high and it isn't ping lag so basically I think what you're referring to there is what's commonly referred to as stuttering so frame stutter and the reasons for that can be fast it can be software reasons so it could be a outdated or bad display driver stuttering became a really hot topic a while ago with multi GPUs because yeah that really relies heavily on the driver to organize the two GPUs and if that's not done properly you can get frames out of sync or fake basically frame lag so one of every frame no matter how many freight so if you're doing 20 frames per second one of those frames could take a lot longer than another one that causes a stuttering effect so it could be driver software it could be a dirty operating system problems there so software or could just be hardware so with the hardware you'll run into stuttering when the CPU gets maxed out so there's a delay there of the CPU giving the GPU workload and that creates a bit of a hitch there it could be running out of VRAM system memory it's a challenging thing to diagnose I would say update you display drivers do a driver uninstall clear out all the drivers start from scratch with the latest drivers basically look into how you think the condition of your operating system might be if it's been a long time since you have cleaned it up or you're noticing slowdowns in other areas and probably do a fresh install and also you can MSI Afterburner with River tuner you can monitor your VRAM usage you can monitor system memory usage GP please know CPU usage so yeah it's pretty hard to nail down but once you sort of start diagnosing and troubleshooting all those things you may get to the root of the problem all right so the next question comes from own car M yes that we love named Butchie cookie sorry about that he asks or she asks you get most of your products from review companies but what products do you usually buy with your own money so I guess for me I do get pretty much everything from review you know samples from companies buy no Steve I think you buy some stuff yeah well I suppose because you mostly do laptop and phone review so expensive yeah it's expensive and yeah most of it set as for me yeah I do spend quite a few thousand dollars each year on Hardware sometimes it's even stuff I've already got so for example I recently spent a lot of money on the sky like X CPUs so until sent me all of the review samples and then there were claims that they were well some people claiming they were better than the retail chips at overclocking and even just out of the box performance and other people claiming they weren't as good and there was issues with them so I bought a couple of CPUs and then I also only had asrock motherboards and they will claim that they weren't very with no throttle too heavily so I bought some a sous boards and a gigabyte board anyway it turned out that it was all exactly the same as the stuff tamati I've still got it I'll hopefully pound that off to a friend or somebody because I don't need them yeah so a lot of different things just to get reviews done sometimes I can't get stuff or in the case of Intel they didn't want to send retail chips they said that they're what they call the Q s chips they were the quality sample chips they were as exactly the same as the retail chips they didn't want to send retail chips so just waited sometimes yeah next question comes from James and I'm not even going to bother butchering your second name James so we'll just skip straight to your question Steve do you have a cat if if so will it ever be featured on the channel well first of all no I don't have a cat so there's something to figure out the feature on the channel my daughters do have a cute little rabbit but I'm not sure how keen it would be being shoved into the barrel right Timo's a cat yeah I do have a cat over white sort of little cats named Java so yeah you'll probably see my cat in the background some b-roll shots and yeah coming up she's very friendly cat so was to get in there and annoy me while I'm trying to do my work as all other time awesome sorry yeah for all your cat needs you'll have to go to Timmy's routine alright so the next question comes from Louis agna from what budget size on should you start carrying about a pcs looks I think a lot of Tetris too much on their budget on better-looking components that have no real impact on the PCs performance like for example cases well Steve you involved most the PC voiceover yeah I'll try and tackle this one bit to this question so yeah I totally agree with this one this kind of annoys me a bit not sure if you can blame this on the techie youtubers or not yeah I don't really know the origins of where it started that all builds have to have sleeved cables they like to be perfect and everything has to be perfectly color matched and you can only buy tech according to its color scheme that's kind of annoying I know my own personal experience with doing the tech YouTube stuff I wasn't really aware of how annual people are about their themes and sleeved cables and don't even get them sad on how you apply thermal paste that's that's that's a different thing I'll getting off-topic yeah I don't even really know how to tackle that one because I did a budget build something as four hundred dollar US budget builder for $400 u.s. like this question sort of getting it you don't really care about how the computer looks you're really after performance that's all that matters at that price bang for your buck and I used I think it was a bronze rated power supply it was a really good pass but it might have been a silver stone from memory and it was a the cheap sleeved cable so it's not the sort of the plastic he messed up over them and at the end it was a 24-pin cable you could see the actual wire tables and I felt that there the I believe mustard or rainbow colored I couldn't believe the comments I was getting from it was an amazing value build I can't remember it's on the channel somewhere but incredible bang for your buck performance that you could never previously get for that price range and I swear 50% of the comments were saying it was a disgusting build because they could see the rainbow colored tables I'm thinking to myself guys so I can kind of based on that I can kind of see why the techy youtubers do focus so much on the visual side of their budget builds as silly as it sounds like LED lights and light strips and that if you get that as a bonus with your cooler that's fine but going and buying them in a budget builds just silly so yeah I would love doing more builds that are realistic and encourage people not to really worry about having it look like it's a $2,000 hard to build almost comes first exactly performs well then you can start adding the things in yes sorry from what budget should you start caring about that kind of stuff I well it's definitely a budget thing like $500 you should not be carrying around that stuff every last dollar should be getting you should be maximizing what you're gonna get in your gaming performance whether it be you how your monitor is even you keep on a mouse spend the money there before you spend it on yeah sleeves cables and flashy lights I'd like to see more youtubers being able to feel confident that they can use a rainbow scape you probably not be absolutely brutalized in the comment section for doing so anyway and we have another question here from mr. Wagner so he says how should this channel develop in let's say the next two years what do you want to change or improve is there a specific sub or viewcount that you want to achieve okay good question well okay projecting two years here I - two years is pretty hard I'm struggling to imagine where the channel will be in one year looking back to the start of this year I think we're about 45,000 subscribers and now we're at about 170,000 so it's not far off it's at four three four times four times four times don't laugh at me yeah so four times the views have gone up a fair bit things like engagement are really good I don't really know what I'm expecting or wanting over the next 12 months whether that is for it to double again which would be mega or yeah got my 50% I don't know but the main thing with Tim coming on board I really want to get out even more regular content than we been targeting almost a video a day or pretty much will be going for every idea think yeah getting close to that each week hopefully without keeping the quality the same or even improving the quality because I've been doing almost a video a day for this year so now I'll be doing half as much as I was by still achieving the same amount of content on the channel so I'll be able to put more time into my benchmark video so that's going to be awesome so I suppose that's what I'm hoping is to just improve the content that I've been producing but also still have a lot of content on the channel yeah and you have four times the subs and the next question is from Justin Note 3 how many people work at the Harbor unboxed channel well yesterday one today - yeah Tim's been added to the team full time now as a couple of you guys hopefully a lot of you have seen Tim's content so he has done stuff on the channel before but that wasn't full time he was that you know it was sort of just getting climatized to the channel I'd say yeah just a bit of part-time work and you probably wouldn't have seen any of my videos over the past couple months because well they haven't actually been any of them but uh yeah but I was finishing off my engineering project for my final year of my master's degree so I finished that all now I hope that actually be a qualified engineer but um will be the second employee at Harbor inbox um yeah it should be great to get again and start making videos every every week playtime's over with uni now to work time to work hard you get on that grind yep thank you next question is from David Watson can you do a little video about your PC what pcs you talking about it's gorgeous ma'am well thank you what case is that it's okay yep big as a small fridge looks great yeah okay this thing well that's the first of all David there is a build of I think it's a three part series of the system on the channel I did that quite a few months ago probably earlier in the year I suppose it is my computer but it's more of a set piece so there's actually no operating system or anything or no storage in it it's pretty much just for show so there's a gtx 1070 founder's edition and it did have a core i7 77 RK in there which I stripped out that was difficult to do with the hard part and there's no know a seller on in there and I think it's got it's it's it's got 32 gig of ram in it but it's more of a ram holder so again it's just there for show liven the set up a bit I'll probably change it next year to something else but I built it it looked really cool I didn't have a purpose for it it's way too big to give away in a competition naturally I need shares in a courier company to move that anywhere it weighs it's over 50 kilos I think yeah it's it's heavy very very heavy so it's not going anywhere I'll probably end up just stripping it all down and repurposing some of the stuff in it yeah anyway that's that computer stuff you do want to see the build for it search for the Tower 900 a little point in the right direction alright so the next question is from Rick Anderson who asks do you think being in Australia is a disadvantage yeah definitely obviously a lot of the big companies and stuff er very focused on the United States is their key market and you know a lot of the companies have all their advertising budgets all of their big PR teams over there so it can often be really hard for us to get the products if we want to review and get in touch with the people that we need to get in touch with over here and obviously as well like a lot of the events that we want to attend like you know your Computex you see yes all those things we have to fly you know a long way to attend any of these shows whereas yeah you know people in the US they can just you know one out domestic flight in there anywhere really but yeah yeah Computex is kind of difficult for everyone yes so that's one that's not too bad for us but pretty much every major product launch from Nvidia AMD Intel is usually over in the States and that's yeah massive haul for us and I think you covered pretty much everything there ITA getting review samples can be hugely challenging I'm not saying it's a picnic for the guys over in the US there's plenty of competition over there for stuff as well but like a lot I won't name any of the brands in particular but a lot of them for like big product launches that you just it's huge budget companies it's like we've got one sample for your region yeah yeah wonderful hole yeah it's not just Australia sometimes it could be like New Zealand in other places yeah yeah so the whole whole region yeah so that makes it really challenging and you know it's nice that a lot of the time harbour unboxing because we have the textbook connection as well we do get offered it first so that's fantastic and we are grateful for that sometimes the turnaround time is with you know week and so I'll do the most in-depth review I can in that time and then all our viewers will be asking for follow-up testing can you do this you try that and it's like well I'm trying to get one okay the next question is from JD tech gear and JD Tucker is actually another youtuber that does a really cool content so go check him out you'll probably see him comment below he does watch a lot of our content so appreciate ya in your opinion what's the most underrated PC hardware company PS really admire your drive and dedication of the channel Steve thanks much okay in my opinion companies that are underrated PC how about companies that's a tough one I would say I've top my head as rock from other boards for sure they still get bashed a bit as well I see in the comments though a lot of people do defend them these days because they started out as like kind of like your EC s like a really budget brand and their boards really are still very cheap in comparison to like a sue ski about MSI but their BIOS is so good now really good one of the best out there and overclocking is great on them their features are good just get really good product and then the other one I would probably say there's a lot of really these days like good PC case makers like I've only just started getting to the fantex stuff and their cases are gorgeous and such high quality build quality on those I think Silverstone is a company that doesn't get a whole lot of recognition and they make some really cool mini ITX cases I've reviewed them over the years and they're been good and they're just really high-quality for what your payer really affordable cases so I think they're probably one of the underrated case and they make good pass players as well so and coolers but yeah so hope that answers that question all right so next question is from Waseem H do you like pizza or pasta more our video repeats in person love my pizza I like pasta as well so both those things are really good but I'll take a pizza or a pasta okay yeah I think I'd lean towards past but alright yeah I actually I mean pizza varies so much like pasty yeah I mean yeah you know some places you and the pizzas just I can't eat it in other places like this is amazing so I think there's much more variance in the quality of pizza yeah and I last year I built myself a pizza oven quite a mega one in the backyard and not being a big pizza femme my wife wanted it and she makes the pizzas I cook them in that and they are not to top myself up chef but it's because she makes them they are incredible I can't get enough homemade pieces yeah it's nice thin base I don't like a big belly I love the dough I'm all that oh you're tall I'll make one for you all right so a question from Brandon projects between the 8700 K or 1,800 X both its stock speed which one is better for editing 4k videos and playback at full resolution and you're adding some effects in Premiere Pro I'm curious about these two CPUs are they really good or do you have some framedrops hmm yeah it's an interesting one because both of them are fairly good CPUs I would have thought for it for video editing I mean I personally use the risin 7 1700 X for my Premiere Pro stuff and I think it's you know pretty good for the 4k sort of playback and that sort of thing but you gotta have as well for things like you know adding effects and yeah playback you've gotta have you know I got a good GPU for the super utilization and GPU offloading of effects you've gotta have a lot of memory and that sort of thing in a really fast scratch disk so you can scrub through this stuff really quick so yes not just about CPU but I think you have a better idea about some of these stuff well yeah I think there's two things there I mean this was basically asking about editing okay he's with Premiere Pro it's kind of a weird program for and all that sort of stuff to my knowledge that's not that core heavy it really prefers high IPC called mega frequency so like an 87 or okay would be probably dare I say it benefit editing but then the other side of it is when you've edited your 4k video if it's quite long 20 minutes or so that can take a long time to encode on an 87 okay it'll take a long time on a 8 Corizon 7 processor as well but the 1,800 X would be the faster CPU therefore incurring because that really comes down to your cores and threads so yeah kind of if you could blend those two CPUs you would have an awesome cuz I use a 69 50 X at the moment yeah and I want to been wanting to build it for weeks I'm trying to get all the parts I'm very close to building my thread Ripper 1950 X yeah and when I benchmarked them with my 4k 60fps content these thread refer is much faster at the encode or render process compared to my 69 50 X which is a Broadway Lee ten core 20 thread CPU so and I think the 87 era K would be better than both of those CPUs for the actual editing part yeah it could be yeah so that would be something I'll have to look into that I know Brian from takeo City is using the core i7 87 or okay overclocked a5 2 gigahertz Fiza editing and he reckons it's like nothing else so yeah I guess it's yeah yeah do you want yeah it's kind of this I don't think there's one CPU that really does the editing and the encoding yeah like really well so yeah okay so we're halfway through the Q&A video if you can believe that only half will hey I've decided to save the other 25 or 30 minutes whatever it is worth of questions for tomorrow I did take to Twitter a few days ago and asked fans if they want the full one hour video or two separate videos because to myself we just couldn't work out what would be the best format for you guys anyway you like weren't too helpful though so thanks for that a 50-50 split 1288 votes what are the chances that we'd end up with a 50/50 split anyway Arctic did make a good point he said since the poll was split split the video into two sections it's fairly sound logic so tomorrow you'll be able to see the rest of the video and finally find out if Tim nailed the outro I'm your host Steve Tim's still here in spirit and we'll see you guys again tomorrow