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welcome back to harbor unboxed now if you like me need a bit of a break for the rising madness and I think I have just the thing an insanely expensive graphics card yep hey how's work a few days ago I took the covers off in videos new GeForce GTX 1080 TI founders edition graphics card in an unboxing video I covered most of the specifications in that video so I won't go over any of that stuff again here for more details feel free to check out the written version over at tech spot the link will be included in the video description a big part of this story other than the fact that gamers can now get Pascal tight necks like performance for $700 is the new $500 MSRP for the original GT x 1080 as for the 1080 TI previously this level of performance cost an eye watering twelve hundred dollars us and knocking a little over 40% off the price tag is no small thing since the GTX 1082 I won't be anything radically new in terms of performance especially if you have the Titan XP added to the mix like I will there really isn't any need to test twenty games but this is Harbor on box so you know anyway for those of you who just want to check out the performance and a few select games feel free to refer to the video index which I will provide in a pinned comment as well as a video description for testing I will be using my core i7 7700 K rig which will be overclocked to 4.9 gigahertz a few months ago I moved away from testing stock or reference graphics cards for a few reasons the main reason being that I always suggest you guys avoid AMD and in video reference cards and instead pick up the quality board partner versions with bigger coolers that allow the card to run cooler quieter and boost more reliably so then the only reference cards included in the results that you're about to see include the GTX 1080 Ti and the Titan XP as you can't get custom Titan XP cards the rest of factory overclocked board partner cards and I'll the list which models were used in the video description I recieved a heap of requests to show 1080p results and although it seems strange to me I'm going to do it anyway since enough of you guys asked that said I will quickly gloss over the 1080p and 1440p results and focus mainly on the 4k numbers I have added the fury X to the 4k testing but didn't have time to include in the 1080p and 1440p results so hopefully you guys will let that one slide there are 61 graphs in total so beware of that it's a bit of an information overload again feel free to skip to the games that interest you but if you like me NSYNC 20 games is a good little start then let's get on with it those seeking extreme frame rates and battlefield 1 will certainly receive them at 1080p with v10 atti as it matched the performance of the Titan XP this was also the case at 1440p and here in videos new flagship gaming graphics card pushed well over 100 FPS at all times now the 4k resolution battlefield 1 looks as sharp as the edges of a generic ATX case thankfully though the 1080 Ti in charge of the rendering work it's a painless experience here we see a smooth 73 FPS average while frame rates never dipped below 66 FPS as expected this again puts it roughly on par of the Titan XP dropping just a few frames behind testing with Far Cry primal at 1080p we run into a rather heavy CPU bottleneck at 1080p how is it okay to talk about CPU bottlenecks in this review and I'm not quite sure about that one so to confuse the sound boys who are all rather that CPU bottlenecks at the moment let's call it a CPU speed limit instead yeah let's go off that at 1440p the 1080 Ti again roughly matches the Titan XP making at 21% faster than the standard GTX 1080 not bad results given frame rate stayed above 80 FPS at all times moving to 4k the 1080 TI tiptoes ahead of the Titan XP though it was just 2 fps in it the performance is obviously very similar again when compared to the standard 1080 we are seeing 20% more performance here even with the core i7 7700 K overclocked a four point ninety goes we start to run into another one of those pesky cpu speed limits this time in Call of Duty infinite warfare at 1080p that's it when looking at the minimum frame rate the 1080 - I still produce 22% more performance than the standard 1080 it also looked very mighty at 1440p with an average of 117 FPS while frame rates never dipped below a hundred FPS at the extreme 4k resolution frame rate stayed north of 60fps with the 1080 - I pushing no less than 66 fps throughout test that made it 35% faster than the vanilla 1080 when comparing the minimum frame rate which is most impressive civilization 6 is a rather CPU demanding game and is therefore quite well known for imposing CPU speed limits here we see the 1080 1080 Ti and Titan XP capped out at 85 fps moving to 1440p the high-end GPUs are still performance limited even at 4k we find the higher-end GPUs all deliver very similar results the good news here of course being that all cards testers are capable of delivering playable performance at this extreme resolution debut 6 mankind divided was tested using the very high quality preset and here the 1080 TI spat out 113 FPS on average making it a fraction faster than the Titan XP moving to 1440p it held the lead over the Titan while providing a 23 percent greater average frame rate when compared to the original 1080 those wanting to play mankind divided at 4k will likely have to tweak a few settings as the 35 FPS minimum isn't exactly desirable not when spending this kind of money anyway in any case at this resolution the 1080 - I should be at least 25 percent faster than the standard 1080 the division is very demanding on the GPU as most games are and here we see that even at 1080p at 1080 Ti and tight and XP will still dip below 80 FPS at times still with an average of over 120 fps it goes without saying that gameplay was extremely smooth performance remains very strong at 1440p with over 60 fps rendered at all times here we have another game that we require either two GPUs for a smooth floor K experience or a reduction in quality settings the 53 FPS average is actually very good but at times frame rates drop as low as 31 FPS in our test doom enforces its own speed limit with a 200 FPS hard frame cap which we are easily reaching on the high-end GPUs at 1080p even at 1440p the 1080 TI and Titan XP are locked at the 200 FPS frame cap turning up the pixels at 4k we still see well over 100 FPS at all times on the Titan XP and GT X 1080 Ti as a result this made at 24% faster than the standard GT X 1080 for the average frame rate and 20% faster for the minimum those playing f1 2016 running triple monitor simulator type setup will no doubt be very interested in what the gtx 980ti has to offer the 1080p performance is impressive though it looks as though we're being held back a little bit here at 1440p 32 I starts to pull further away from the standard townie with an average of 133 fps now at 4k the 1080 Ti is good for 81 fps on average while framerate stayed above 67 FPS at all times this then made in videos news $700 chap 20% faster than the GTX 1080 cutting your way through hordes of stupidly easy baddies in tirana is at least slightly satisfying with the GTX 1082 I here at 1440p we see over 80 fps and this will help you keep up in the online mode as you change your guard stance multiple times per second now 4k using the extreme quality preset we are still seeing a respectable 55 FPS on average this then was a 22% performance boost over the 45 fps churned out by the original GTX 1080 those of you running 144 Hertz monitors can take full advantage of all those Hertz and Gears of War 4 at 1080 P using the new GT X 1080 Ti even at 1440p frame rates are often seen above 100 FPS roughly double that of those pathetic mid-range graphics cards I kid of course now at 4k we see the fury acts and gtx 1070 struggling to keep pace while the standard GT X 1080 looks quite respectable the ti model provides an additional 24 percent performance bump hitting an average of 57 FPS for those of you new to the channel I should point out that in some games or certain tiles that support DirectX 12 I test in video using DirectX 11 and AMD using DirectX 12 I have discussed why this is in the past so I won't go over that again basically AMD performs better using DirectX 12 and in video using DirectX 11 there is no reason for g4 DonorsChoose DX 12 in a game that sends performance backwards for no reason so essentially I'm testing the API that gamers will actually use so using dx11 the gtx 1080i spits out a hundred and thirty FPS on average making in a fraction faster than the titan XP moving to 1440p the TI was good for 120 FPS on average and we are starting to move away from that tricky cpu speed limit here now at 4k the average frame rate is reduced to 74 FPS with a minimum 64 FPS and once again the GTX 1080 TI performs very similar to the Titan XP just a whisker slower this also meant it was 29% fast and the GTX 1080 using the high quality preset the 1080 - I pushed an average of 101 FPS at 1080p and Mafia 3 which isn't bad though that's not much faster than the standard GTX 1080 moving to 1440p the TI starts to pull away from the plain-jane 1080 though it is only 13 percent faster here finally at 4k the 1080 TI it's full stride pulling further away from the standard 1080 by a massive 29% margin next up we have the game that made parkour cool and not the other way around helped me to keep up to speed and jumping over or underneath things at maximum efficiency is the GTX 1080 - our they blistering fast 150 FPS on average even at 1440p frame rates average over 100 FPS another nod then for high refresh rate gaming even at the 4k resolution using the ultra quality preset button 82 I averaged 57 fps making it 24 percent faster than the GTX 1080 you probably don't need a GTX 1080 TI to play overwatch but it would be pretty darn cool to have one anyway frame rates are pretty insane at 1080p and even at 1440p we see an average frame rate of around 250 FPS that said this is a very CPU intensive game and our bots test hammers even the core i7 77 or okay overclocked to 4.9 gigahertz quite hard at 4k the massive variance between the average and minimum frame rate is now gone and we're primarily GPU bound at this point in other words your typical 4k GPU speed limit has been applied here firing up quantum break we said the GTX 1082 a is able to match the Titan XP as expected what's interesting here is how much faster it is in the standard 10a even at 1080p 22 percent more performance this resolution is quite surprising moving to 1440p the margin is extended ever so slightly to 23% and again the TA is still pushing over 100 FPS finally the 4k resolution the 1080 Ti is good for almost 60 FPS on average using the ultra quality preset that again made it 23% faster than the standard 1080 playing Resident Evil 7 with the 1080i we see and double 211 FPS on average at 1080p with the quality settings maxed out that's more than twice the average framerate of the rx 480 and gtx 1060 graphics cards similar margins are seen at 1440p and again frame rates are kept well above 100 FPS on in videos new $700 graphics curb Resident Evil 7 looks amazing on a large 4k screen and a single 1080 - I can handle the rendering work no worries as gameplay with silky smooth at 60fps at all times as a result we saw 24% more frames from the ti when compared to the standard 1080 rise of the Tomb Raider blew us away with amazing visuals over a year ago now but even today the game is still one of the more impressive looking titles although we don't test a terribly demanding section of the game the 1080i still looks mighty impressive in relation to the gtx 1070 for example moving to 1440p we see that it's 23% faster than the GTX 1080 and incredibly 55 percent faster than the gtx 1070 which as we know is roughly as fast as last season's maxwell based titan x - mereta is another game that looks absolutely stunning on a big 4k screen and the fact that 1080 TI overages 77 FPS e means that with a single graphics card you can fully enjoy the experience here it was 28% faster than the GTX 1080 titanfall 2 is a seriously fast paced first-person shooter so this is a game it would be popular with 144 Hertz owners coincidentally the 1080 TI averaged exactly 144 FPS at 1080p with the quality settings maxed out even at 1440p we're still seeing an average of 120 FPS with the 1080 TOI now it's all ok the average framerate has been heavily reduced as you would expect still we are seeing an average of 72 FPS here though this is just 10% faster than the standard 1080 total war Warhammer is a game that I really feel should be played using the dx12 API regardless of whether you're running AMD or Nvidia Hardware like ashes in a single area during the battles when there are masses of Units on the screen the CPU takes a good old pounding when using dx11 anyway even on DX 12 the GTX 1080 Ti is still mighty fast pushing over 100 FPS at all times at 1080p at 1440p frame rates are again very strong and we often saw a frame rates exceeding 100 FP now finally at 4k the average frame rate has been heavily reduced as you would expect still with an average of 65 fps it was an impressive 30% faster than the standard 1080 finally watchdogs - this is the last game I've tested I promise despite being a hugely demanding game on system resources aka unoptimized the GTX 1082 I still manages to reach 100 FPS on average even at 1440p frame rates remain high and in videos new GPU is still good for 91 FPS allowing it to match the Titan XP moving to 4k the tanita is still 23% faster than the original 1080 as it went on to reach an average of 59 FPS when compared to the GTX 1080 the 1080 TI consumes just 7% more power pushing the total system consumption of 334 watts which is surprisingly low keep in mind we are using a custom board partner version for the GTX 10 80 gigabytes g1 gaming but even then that's an impressive results for the 1080 TI that also means it's using less power than the fury acts despite delivering considerably more performance interestingly though when compared to the Titan XP the 1080 TI reduced total system consumption by 8% which is more than I expected to see now I wouldn't say in videos gtx 1080 TI foundered edition graphics card is loud when gaming but you can certainly hear it over your case fans under load the fam round at 50% capacity which sees it spinning at 2400 rpm the thing pumps out some serious heat as well load temps quickly reached 80 degrees before maxing out at 84 degrees at this temperature the card would hold an operating frequency of at least 16 hundred and 70 megahertz please do note that when I unboxed the gtx 980ti a few days ago i did remove the cooler and wipe the thermal paste off to show you guys the dye the paste was replaced with something that looked quite similar though there's no guarantee that wouldn't impact thermals one way or the other as it turns out I don't think this influenced the results too much Kevin over at Tech showdown confirmed operating temperatures of around 83 degrees well if you came on that 20 game benchmark journey with me didn't skip ahead at any point and sat through all the benchmarks then I guess it's safe to say you're having a pretty slow day anyway I enjoyed checking out those and I hope you did too before we wrap things up let's just summarize how the gtx 1080i fared against the standard 1080 as well as the fury ax for those of you who didn't have time to sit through all twenty games when compared to the original gtx 980 or the g1 gaming model that we use for testing which was released almost a year ago now the new ti model was on average 22% faster we did see it deliver up to 30% more performance in title such as Deus Ex mankind divided and total war Warhammer that said it for Kahler gains with sometimes as little as 10% still for the most part as that average figure suggests the 1080i delivered between 20 and 25% more performance that said it does come in at around 40% more expensive in the GTX 1080 but of course that's the premium you pay for high-end gaming and with no alternative there's no need for in video to be more aggressive on pricing at least for now anyway the fury X is just about eligible for the pension at this point as it's just a few months off at second birthday two years is a long time this is top of your product stack as the flagship offering anyway the gtx 1080i puts the fury X down in the most humane way possible quickly dispatching of it with 61% more performance on average as a side note I believe what we're seeing here is the fury X running into a VRAM capacity issue at 4k in Doom and that's why it gets pantsed in a game where you would expect it to do significantly better than it did as noted in a video I created about a month ago unless you can pick up a fury X graphics card for $300 u.s. or less I wouldn't bother at that price of 1080p is obviously more than twice as expensive and it's not twice as fast that said it's really GPU such as the gtx 1070 that make the fury XR bad buy at over $300 so those of you wondering I will be putting together an in-depth overclock benchmarking video soon I didn't really have time to cover that here or more I didn't want to stretch the video out any longer than I have and I figured overclocking is usually best in its own video but I don't expect much out of the founders edition card anyway I'm guessing will squeeze maybe 10% more performance out as we are running pretty close as it is out of the box to that 91 degree threshold I imagine overclocking will be a lot better or at least better on a custom board partner card featuring a nice big cooler something like what gigabyte will produce about horas product line it's really the board partner cards that will make the GTX 10 attr truly exciting in my opinion pricing aside the Titan XP is a seriously nice graphics card well nice GPU as the graphics card only comes with the reference cooler which runs extremely hot too hot to handle after a short gaming session and for me that kind of spoiled it obviously we need not worry about the Titan XP anymore as the GTX 1080 tier offers the same kind of performance while shaving a little over 40% off the asking price right now the 1080 Ti is the ultimate 4k gaming solution or really just the ultimate gaming solution as 1440p 144 Hertz gamers will also be chomping at the bit to get their hands on one until AMD releases Vega I really don't expect to see any kind of shift in the GPU landscape still knocking the vanilla GT X 1080 down to $500 us from the original 600 WS asking price is a huge win for consumers for us Aziza is now possible to purchase the GTX eternity locally for just $700 AUD I suspect in video has done this to create a huge buzz around their high-end parts they really enjoyed strong sales and profits in 2016 thanks to the GTX 1080 and 1070 or well the whole Pascal lineup really if I'm honest I imagine they are trying to recapture that magic once the end in 2017 and I see no better way of doing that than cutting the GTX 1080 down to $500 and then bringing in a really impressive part like they have with the TI or the 1080 TI at $700 and this will probably help take away a bit of attention from AMD's upcoming Vega anyway the GTX 1080 g5 is mighty expensive at $700 know what sorry what was my note right I'm talking about the price mighty expensive at $700 and I'm not going to deny that is a very expensive graphics card at the same time it's also delivering performance that we've really has been unheard of at this price you can't get anything else at delivers nearly the same level of performance for $700 so Nvidia will certainly get away with charge that price and I imagine as this video goes live there'll be people somewhere in the world lining up to get their hands on one of these for the equivalent of $700 u.s. speaking of which locally when you guys or the Australians wake up on Friday morning and head down to their favorite retailer to try and pick one of these up the rumor is you will be stung around $1200 AUD which is quite a bit above the straight conversion from US dollars to Aussie dollars so yeah we're getting stung quite a price premium on top of the price premium for this card but it is suggest that you'll probably go to land one for about $1,000 AUD from Amazon or new egg so keep that in mind bit sad that we can buy it so much cheaper after having paid shipping from the US ourselves and you're that kind of may have problems with warranty if you need to warranty the card down the trap anyway that's what it is we had $700 I still think it is a great value product for high end extreme gaming for now I'm King to get my hands on a custom GTX 10 atti graphics card because you I think they're going to be a lot more impressive as they often are bigger coolers and whatnot so yeah I'll be grabbing one of them as soon as possible hopefully in a week or two and bringing you a review as quick as I can get that together so with that I'm going to go harass my contacts now I'm your host Steve hope to catch you again soon you