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welcome back to harbor unboxed yesterday or really it was last night I haven't slept since I don't know if you can see how red my eyes I've had some eye drops and that's helped anyway I haven't slept since the last video that was uploaded on the channel and that video informed you guys about the situation with the gtx 1650 basically spoke about how in video we've held the press driver so that no one could provide eight-day one review when these things went on sale very own choice by nvidia there and i did speculate as to why they may have done this based on the official specs that seemed likely that in video is trying to avoid any bad press or at least reduce the volume of reviews hitting that at the same time especially when these things went on sale i also speculated that gtx 1650 was going to be around 10% slower on average and the radiant RX 570 and this makes it a rather pointless product dead-on-arrival if you will anyway I grabbed the driver as soon as it was available to the public and I got testing due to time and how long I can fight off needing to sleep for just a dozen games have been tested but I think this gives us a really good picture of where the 1650 stands I'm not gonna go over specs or any of that stuff again it's all in the previous videos for those of you who are interested for testing I'm using the msi gtx 1650 gaming X which uses an external 6 pin PCI power connector but I also have the gigabyte GTX 16 50 gaming OC on hand in terms of FPS performance they are identical I will compare the power consumption operating temperatures of these two models towards the end of the review finally for testing I'll be looking closely performance at 1080p and exactly a dozen titles and the system used include a core Oh 999 arcade clocked at 5 bigots with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3,200 memory ok let's get into the results kick-starting the benchmarks we have a brand new title World War Z and this game supports the Vulcan API though performance for NVIDIA GPUs isn't great with the current driver so I've tested the GeForce GPU using DirectX 11 and then the AMD GPUs using the low-level Vulkan API doing Saussure the radian rxt 570 absolutely smoked the GTX 1650 by a whopping 38 percent margin meanwhile the 1650 was just twenty six percent faster than the 1050 Ti but also fifteen percent slower than the three year by 1060 performance at Apex legends at least the quiet section of the game that I test was very competitive between the GTX 1615 rx 570 the radeon GPU was still faster but this time by a 4% margin and generally anything less than 5% we dima draw the division ii has been a strong title for AMD and that continues with the RX 570 in this gtx 1650 battle here the radio and GPU offered 27% more performance it's a DP making it the vastly superior GPU nvidia promised good things in new complex titles such as shut off the tomb raider but here we see at the gtx 1650 simply isn't delivering performance was similar to that of the RX 570 but for a new GPU similar performance really isn't good enough the 1650s should be comfortably beating the 570 at this price point the 1650 takes a serious beating and falls on horizon for here it was 21 percent slower than the RX 570 the performance difference was also quite noticeable in gamers the 570 never dipped below 60fps allowing for a smoother gaming experience on average the RX 570 was 11% faster than the 1650 when testing with Just Cause 4 typically this is a good title for NVIDIA but even here the budget Turing GPU just can't get it done Resident Evil 2 as another new title it works really well on AMD Harbor and here the RX 570 was 30% faster than the GTX 1650 here we see that while the radeon GPU was able to maintain over 60 FPS at all times the 1650 dropped down to 50 fps one game that you can always depend on to boost GeForce performance is fortnight and here the GTX 1650 is able to just edged out the rx 570 though overall I'd call this one a tie the 1650 was also 26% fast and the 1050 ti MetroAccess is an Nvidia sponsored title so you'd expect the GTX 16 to get the win here but it doesn't basically it match the RX 570 but that was the best it can do Rainbow six siege throws us a curveball though given what we've seen from the churring GPU so far in this title we're pretty well ready for it here the gtx 1650 is able to beat the RX 570 and by a convincing margin as well Shane we didn't see more of this here we see similar frame rates in battlefield 5 here the RX 570 was slightly faster on average while both provided a similar 1% low result this meant the 1650 was 26% fast in the gtx 750ti and 11% slower than the 3 gigabyte 1060 the gtx 1650 doesn't really impress in farcry a new dawn here it was just 23% fast and the gtx 1050 TI which meant it was 18% slower than the RX 570 in fact at 1080p using the ultra quality preset it struggled to average 60 FPS whereas the 570 maintained over 60 FPS at all times moving on to power consumption here the GTX 1650 is reasonably impressive the gigabyte model pushes total system consumption into 184 watts whereas the MSI model hit 192 watts when compared to the GTX 1050 Ti this is only around a 10 percent increase in total system draw for what looked to be an over 30% improvement in performance and we'll look at that in a moment meanwhile the RX 570 pushed total system consumption 55% higher and while faster overall it wasn't anywhere near 55 percent faster so the 1650 is certainly the more efficient product but I'm still not convinced it's better overall now before we move on to the performance summary here is a quick look at operating temperatures and clock speeds the MSI gaming X picked at 61 degrees in a 21 degree room and this sort typically operating at a boost frequency of 1920 megahertz so needless to say it was very cool and quiet the larger gigabyte model lo of the gaming OC that was able to best to the result of the msi card peaking at just 58 degrees and this allowed it to average 1950 megahertz for the boost clock in terms of frame rate performance though this didn't really have a significant impact as I said they were basically identical one frame here and there but still running slightly cooler with a bump in frequency is a win for gigabyte here okay so at this point your socks should be firmly in place the geforce gtx 1650 has been pretty underwhelming so far but to get a clearer picture of just how underwhelming for 1650 is now let's look at a few head-to-head comparisons for some reason nvidia keeps comparing the gtx 1650 to the gtx 1050 but the 1650 is $10 more than the launch price of the 1050 TI so it's behind no means a replacement for the $110 gtx 1050 when compared to the 1050 TI the 1650 is just 35% faster on average and remember the MSRP has been increased by 7% in any case after three is a 35% boost at this price point is very underwhelming then when compared to the three gigabyte gtx 1060 the 1650 was found to be 9% slower on average granted the 1060 came in at $2 us but again it's now a three year old product the 1650 only offered very small performance gains and a few select titles and best case it wasn't even 5% faster than the outgoing Pascal GPU now when compared to the GTX 1660 the 1650 was 32% slower which seems pretty good given its 32% cheaper that works out rather well at least in a GTX chirring bubble it does but as you're about to see in this price range there's quite a bit of competition and serious competition at that here we have the Radeon rx 570 which is a $170 us part or at least it was once upon a time for many many months now it's been selling for as little as a hundred and thirty dollars u.s. and currently there are multiple options available at that price this makes the gtx 1650 around 15% more expensive and yet we found it to be 10% slower on average and after 20% slower in multiple titles so then the gtx 1650 is indeed dead on arrival and if you need further proof of that then here we have the cost per frame graph two years after the release of the RX 570 we're getting a GPU that's 31% more costly per frame that's really bad and even if we ignore the insanely good rx 570s the rx 580 is still better value offering way more performance for a small price premium again we can see that the 1650 offers a similar level of value to that of the 1660 but at under $200 where Nvidia faces much different competition it just doesn't cut it well that went pretty much as expected based on the specs that we discussed in yesterday's video or last night's video whatever the hell that video happened I felt like the 1650 was going to be our around 10% slower than the rx 570 a 10% slower on average and as luck would have it that was the exact margin that we found at least based on our testing from the 12 game sample at the current $150 u.s. MSRP the GTX 1650 is a pointless product and it can't compete with two to three-year-old GPUs from the competition at 110 dollars us the 1650 would have been competitive and not particularly exciting but at least competitive for it to be a really compelling option Nvidia would need to charge $100 us so we need a 33% price cut to really recommend this thing I know some will argue that the GTX 1650 is great because it doesn't need an external power connector but in my opinion you're kind of clutching at straws on that one you can upgrade your power supply if need be for around $35 us to a decent 450 to 500 watt model and that'll certainly get you out of trouble then for those that can upgrade their power supply in order to upgrade their GPU well I think it's fair to say that is a super niche category of gamer moreover I've noticed that the GTX 1650s that lack an external PCIe power input so models that don't have this little guy here but both the models I have do we have noticed the models that don't have that connector they're clocked much lower because well they're limited to 75 watts they draw all their power from the PCI Express connector piso express x 16 connector there so yeah these ones aren't limited to that so they can clock a bit higher so it's gonna be very interesting to see how much slower the cards without the connector are and I suspect the upgrade over the GTX 1650 ti will be yeah well less impressive obviously will be less impressive but I think it'll be less impressive to the degree where yeah this well I suppose it just makes this even more pointless doesn't it anyway that's some extra testing that I'll have to do I've taken some of our patreon money and I've ordered a few base model 1650s so yeah I'll follow up shortly with that content after I can asleep and yeah we'll see how they go but I yeah I don't expect that too well I don't expect it to put the the 1650s in a better position because yeah as I said the 75-watt limited models will be noticeably slower and anyway I think just ending this this video this this miserable release for me yeah this product's pointless I think it's fair to say it was dead on arrival yeah you can pretty much ignore it that's that's a really big shame because I really liked the RT X 2060 I liked the GTX 1660 Ti and I liked the vanilla 1660 they all really appealed to me and yeah so it's a bit of a shame to see that good run of nice value reasonably exciting products come to a serious and a sharp halt with the 1650 and it appears like the RX 570 will live on so we never never die graphics card that one anyway if you did enjoy this video sorry if it was a bit all over the place a bit slow-paced I was a bit off my game but if you did like it please hit the like button and if you appreciate me staying up for a very long time to get all the testing done and wait for Nvidia to release the drivers and all that nonsense then yeah I suppose you can leave a like you can subscribe for more content where I'm much more awake you can support us on patreon so that allows us to buy graphics cards such as the ones without the the six pin connector because I imagine the companies we work with won't be too keen to send us any more of these cards and they usually aren't too keen to send base models anyway haven't be able to get my hands on any of the base models 1660 1662 eyes or our text 26 TS but we'll be buying those and yeah it's awesome patreon members that allow us to do that we do have a really cool patreon community as well and I keep you guys in the loop of what's going on behind the scenes all that sort of stuff over on our discord chat anyway thank you for watching I'm Yuri Steve and I'll see you again next time