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welcome back to harbor unbox today we're reviewing the new NVIDIA GeForce r-tx 2070 super and r-tx 2060 super graphics cards and yep they really went with Super whatever I guess it's just a name after all so doesn't matter too much and at least is a clear identifier that these GPUs are indeed new and different from existing 2016 and 2017 products without wasting any time let's jump straight in the specs and we'll also discuss the pricing the r-tx 2060 super is coming in at $400 u.s. so a small price premium over the existing non super models for that 14% bump in price you do get quite a significant upgrade at least in terms of specs though at first glance it doesn't appear to be the case as we are only getting 13% more criticals however we do see a massive 33 percent increase in ER ops and this extends the 192 bit wide memory bus of the original r-tx 2060 to 256 bit wide for the super version because the same 14 gigabits per second GD dr six memory is used the bandwidth has also increased by 33 percent to 448 gigabytes per second so then the r-tx 2060 super has the same memory subsystem as the r-tx 2070 and 2070 super and this means it gets eight gigabytes of vram essentially then it's a slightly cut-down version of the 27 t both use tu 106 silicon the 27 t super on the other hand comes in at the same 500 price point as the 27 t so it's effectively replacing this part and you can expect vanilla 27 TS to be phased out shortly for the same money you're getting at 11% upgrade in crew cos 28% more texture units while the rock count remains the same we also see a reasonable 9% increase in Bruce clocks for the core but given most cards are factory overclocked this will have little impact on performance finally the memory configuration remains the same eight gigabytes of gddr5 10 gigabits per second for memory bandwidth of 448 gigabytes per second unlike the standard 27 t which uses two six silicon the super version has been upgraded to two 104 the same silicon used by the r-tx 2080 so the r-tx 2060 super looks to be a rather substantial upgrade over the base model but you're paying a bit more while the 2070 super looks to be a similar upgrade over the 2070 but in that case you're getting the extra performance at no added cost I guess it's the extra memory that in videos stinging gamers for with the 2060 super finally I should just note they'll also be a 2080 Super and that model is going to slot in at the $700 u.s. price point but right now other than its existence and the suggested price we don't know too much more as the specs and release date are yet to be announced that said Nvidia did claim some info claiming it will have 15 and a half gigabits per second GDI 6 memory and it will be faster than the Titan xp for testing I've used an Intel Core I $9.99 or ek processor clock at 5 gigahertz with 32 gigabytes of ddr4 3400 memory the latest drivers available at the time of testing have been used and all this data is fresh brand new for this video and collected in the past week and a half we have a dozen games to look at and then we'll do the usual performance breakdowns and look at the cost per frame data I will be focusing on the 1440p performance but for all the Teddy P and 4k results please get them for free over on our patreon page the link will be in the video description ok let's get into the results first up we have battlefield 5 and here we see the 2070 super bridging the gap between the 2070 and 2080 not a massive performance boost but not bad either the Radeon 7 is still 18% faster in this title but it does cost at least 36% more so I suspect the 2070 Super is going to cause more pain for AMD's current flagship GPU meanwhile the RT X 2060 super looks adequate I guess it was just 9 percent faster than the RT X 2060 in this title while that had at nipping at the 2070 s heels and ahead of Vega 56 that's not exactly an exciting result given that it costs 14% more but I guess there is some utility in having that extra VRAM this time when testing with Tom Clancy's Rainbow six siege the 2070 super is closer to the 20 than it is to the 2070 and it also comfortably beat the older GTX 1080i so a very solid result here I should also note that it comfortably beat aimed is Radeon 7 as well the 2060 super was 16% slower than the 2070 super with an average of 111 fps and this place - a little behind the standard 2070 basically between it and the standard 2060 so again not a particularly impressive result given the increase in price moving on we have Metro Exodus here the 2070 super was nipping at the heels of the Radeon 7 falling short by just a few frames per second this also meant it was much closer to the r-tx 2080 than it was the 2070 then we say the 2060 super outpacing the standard 2060 by 10 percent margin to deliver 2070 life performance this time we're testing with Resident Evil 2 the 2070 super is again right on the radio and sevens tail though this time it does sit right between the 2070 and 2080 the 2060 super is again a smidgen slower than 2070 but faster than Vega 64 so another 10% performance boost over the standard 2060 the 2060 super is a little more impressive and shut off the Tomb Raider beating the 2060 by a 13 percent margin and this made it quite a bit faster than Vega 64 meanwhile the 2017 super matched the gtx 980ti and was just a few frames slower than the r-tx 2080 so a pretty solid result here fortnight's not a great tunnel for AMD and we see this here as the 2060 super is just 5 FPS down on the much more expensive radio on 7 and we see that although the 2070 Super was quite a bit slower than the r-tx 2080 it had no trouble brushing aside the Radeon 7 beating it by an 11% margin the division 2 results look pretty typical given what we've seen so far the 2060 super is 10% fast in the standard model while the 2070 Super is 14% faster than its standard model this all meant that the 2060 super was faster than Vega 64 while the 2070 Super was faster than the Radeon 7 the Radeon GPUs do fare much better in dirt rally - and here the 2060 super is only able to match of agra 64 and was just 5 percent faster than Vega 56 which is selling for down around $300 us then we see the 27-year super was just 7% slow in the Radeon seven so it fares better in this comparison here we have another racing simulator in Forza horizon fall and coincidentally this is another great title for AMD here we see the radio and seven streaking ahead of the 2017 super making in videos new $500 offering 17 percent slower then we see the 2060 super is also done in by Vega 56 losing by a 10% margin moving onto some fire cry new dawn testing and here we see the 2060 super right behind the 2070 while the 2070 super is right behind the 2080 this means the 2060 super was able to match Vega 64 and the 27-year super was a percent slower than the Radeon 7 and yes I am aware that I've said super way too many times in this video but what's the alternative the second last game tested is World War Z and he the Radeon GPUs performed very well the 2060 super couldn't keep pace with Vega 56 while the Radeon 7 was significantly faster than the 2070 super still relative to Nvidia Zone practice TAC these new super versions did perform quite well finally we have the last game tested Assassin's Creed Odyssey and here the 2060 super was 11 percent faster than the standard 2060 which is pretty typical based on what we've seen so far meanwhile the 2070 Super was 10% faster than the standard 2070 and this put it right on the tail of the 2080 and 1080 Ti so that's gonna do it for the gaming benchmarks let's move on to check out power consumption looking purely at the GPU power consumption we see the 2060 super is very efficient consuming just 5% more power than the standard 2060 and just 2% or four watts more than the RX 590 then we see the 2070 super jumped up to 198 watts and that made it 11% more power hungry than the 2060 super but still it was considerably more efficient than the Radeon competition consuming 20% less power than the Radeon 700 once we factor in the entire system draw those margins are reduced quite substantially now the 27 is super just 10% less power than the Radeon seven and there are some interesting changes here when measuring power draw from the wall Vega 64 jumps well ahead of the r-tx 20 atti for example and in the GPU test it did consume less power the reason for this change is down to the fact that we're now including the power draw off the entire graphics card as well as other components in the system such as the CPU which has to work harder when paired with certain GPUs typically the more powerful models anyway the super variants slide in exactly where you'd expect them to in terms of power usage now moving on into operating frequencies temperatures fan speeds and a little overclocking out of the box the 2060 super found edition around at 70 degrees with a fan speed of 16 hundred and 50 rpm so it was virtually silent the GPU maintained an average operating frequency of eighteen hundred and fifteen megahertz after an hour-long loop of the f1 2018 benchmark overclocked our sample was able to sustain 2010 megahertz after the hour-long test and they saw the operating temperature increase to 75 degrees with a fan speed of 1900 rpm so a pretty typical 11 percent overclock for this cheering based GPU moving on to the 2070 super and we see that out of the box the founders edition model picked at just 68 degrees with a fan speed of 1600 rpm and this allowed it to maintain an operating frequency of eighteen hundred and nineteen megahertz overclocked our sample maintained at operating frequency of 1980 megahertz but please note for the first few minutes of this test it was running at over two gigahertz but after about five minutes it did begin to throttle down and by the end of the hour-long test it only sustained 1980 megahertz which is a mere 5% overclock the Kart was only running at 71 degrees with a fan speed of just 1700 rpm so it was still incredibly quiet okay so there's all the performance information now it's time to make sense of it and for that we have a few performance breakdown charts and then of course we'll look at the cost per frame data so let's go do that as you'd probably expect based on the benchmarks just seen the r-tx 2060 super is indeed only slightly slower than the GeForce r-tx 2070 so for the most part around 4% slower the only game where the performance was equalized was Assassin's Creed Odyssey while the only game where the margin was extended beyond 4% was fortnight when compared to the standard 20 60 the new super duper version was 9% faster an average though we are comparing to MSI's gaming z version nvidia suggests the supermodel is 15% faster on average but either way not an overly impressive result given you're paying 14% more so it's basically just another cheering based GPU that fits in on the pricing structure that was set a year ago we're still for the 2060 Suba is the fact that it's just 11 percent faster than AMD's Radeon rx Vega 56 which can be had for less than $300 now sure it is on the way out but at least in the short term that's not great news for the much newer NVIDIA GPU moving on to the 2070 super and here we see on average it was 7% slower than the RDX 2080 and this effectively eliminates that part as the 2070 Super is almost 30% cheaper but of course before too long we should have an RT X 2080 Super part as well but the point is at least relative to existing RT X parts the 2070 super does look like a pretty good deal still it's not an amazing deal basically you're getting 12% more performance an average for the same price not nothing but not amazing either that said we've come to expect to these 12-month refreshes by this point so who's surprised that we're not getting a 30% performance boost anyway that is the reality we're faced with these days but anyway let's move on to see how it fares against AMD's Radeon 7 well there you have it just 4% slower on average and given it costs at least 26 percent less the 27-year super effectively kills the Radeon 7 was never more than 17 percent slower fair to say without a price cut the Radeon seven trillion debt at this point now time for the cost per frame analysis but before we look at the current asking price let's just do an MSRP comparison but don't focus on this data too much as it can be a little bit misleading I just wanted to compare the MSRP sphere so that shows how much progress we've made from the Pascal generation here we see that the 2060 super costs four dollars and 59 cents per frame and that makes the gtx 1070 24% more costly frame and that sounds pretty good for cheering but remember the gtx 1070 is now a three year old product so while that certainly is progress it's not really a lot of progress given the time period I should note that the 2060 super is 30% faster than gtx 1070 but it also costs 5% more now for the 2070 super here we sent the gtx 1080i cost 33% more per frame so not a bad result for the 2070 superb but again not exactly a super result given we're comparing it to a now two-year old product okay so let's compare the MSRP of the 2060 super and 2070 super to the current market prices of competing products and for this I've removed the end of production pascal parts as new models are overpriced here we see the 2060 super is still worse value than the original 2060 in fact even more so here given that you can now get 2060 models for a slight discount at $330 u.s. we're still you can get Vega 56 for just 270 dollars in the u.s. right now and that makes the 2060 super 35 percent more costly per frame having said that keep in mind those Vega 56 deals aren't available in all regions but even so the fact that the 2060 super isn't particularly great value sitting next to even the $400 Vega 64 that isn't good news for gamers thankfully the 2070 super is better value than the 2070 but at an 8 percent discount per frame it's not exactly cause for celebration still it does one punch knockout the Radeon seven and rx 2080 graphics cards so there is that and that does indeed bring us to the end of this video in videos attempt to steal aim DS thunder next week seems a bit weak to me they really could have given us a lot more but perhaps they don't need to and I guess that is the real issue here ignoring AMD's navi and i guess we we sort of have to given that we're under NDA and we have cards sitting on the test bench right now but ignoring na'vi it's fair to say this roughly 12 months later refresh from Nvidia it's pretty underwhelming and it really wasn't worth getting out of bed for and I need as much sleep as I can get right now the r-tx 2070 super is decent it certainly kills off the Radeon seven at its current asking price and basically does the same to the RT X 2080 so you're almost getting $700 performance for $500 almost not quite and I suppose that is a bit disappointing roughly a year later but there's also no better deal is price point and that's exactly why we're desperately in need of a knee to step it up a notch or two maybe three however compared to the RT X 2060 super the 2070 super is a much more exciting product and well I guess that's also very disappointing price to performance the 2060 super is technically better value but you expect that with lower on parts and while its worst value than the standard 2060 in terms of performance you do get that extra two gigabytes of vram the foundation cards did run quite cool and they were very quiet I also think they look quite nice and the build quality is excellent the good news being this time around you don't have to pay a premium for the EFI model so you can get them at the base MSRP so that is some good news there overall not much more to say on this one if you enjoyed the video be sure to the like button subscribe for more content and if you appreciate the work we do at our own box then can see that supporting us on patreon thank you for watching I'm your host Steve and I'll see you again next time