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Official: AMD Ryzen 2nd-gen Info, Ryzen Desktop APUs, Ryzen 3 Mobile & Vega Mobile dGPU

2018-01-07
hey guys and welcome back to hardware unboxed I'm currently over in Las Vegas where AMD has detailed a whole bunch of stuff that will be coming out this year covering a range of products segments I reckon that's enough intro for this video as there's quite a lot to get through so let's move on to the actual announcements from this see yes you probably want to hear about second generation rising desktop CPUs first which AMD briefly mentioned during their event unfortunately we didn't receive full details on processor skews performance improvements or pricing but we did get a launch window April 2018 second gen Reisman will be built on a 12 nanometer process using the Zen plus architecture which includes minor optimizations - first gen Zen aimed II did say these new chips will feature higher clock speeds and new boost technologies both precision boost - and xfr - they also hinted at double-digit performance gains though they weren't exactly specific on any claims as AMD promised earlier 2nd gen Reisman will be fully compatible with existing 300 series chipsets although it will launch alongside new 400 series chipsets all the key features of second generation will be supported on both platforms though the 400 series chipset will supposedly allow greater performance lower power and some new feature additions most of these improvements to the 400 series chipsets involve better memory support and greater support for overclocking at least from what AMD has said so far further in the future AMD said the Zen 2 architecture designed for 7 nanometers is now designed complete and on track for release probably next year with Zen 3 also on track probably again for the year after that's all we have on second gen rising right now so clearly AMD you know they'll be releasing a bit more information closer to that April 2018 launch date the product line aimed he was willing to talk about is its desktop rise an AP use codenamed Pinnacle Ridge you able to buy an a m4 compatible Rison processor with integrated Vega graphics as soon as February 12 in fact two models will be available at that date the horizon 520 400 G and the Rison 320 200 G these two ApS are pretty crazy in what they offer at a low price point the Rison 520 400 G for example has a four core eight thread CPU clocked at 3.6 gigahertz with a boost up to 3.9 gigahertz it also packs a Vega GPU with 11 compute units or 704 shader cores with a base clock of 1240 megahertz you get all of this for just a hundred and sixty-nine dollars which is only five bucks more than the Rison v 1400 yet you get higher CPU clocks out of the box and decent integrated graphics the Rison 320 200 G is even better value it offers four CPU cores and four threads clocked a 3.5 gigahertz with the boost of 3.7 gigahertz plus an 8 compute unit Vega GPU all for just $99 that is cheaper than the Rison 3 1200 but packs a faster CPU and integrated graphics as well it sounds pretty strange that both these APIs are cheaper than existing rising cpus while offering more performance but that's the situation I guess amy has shown some performance numbers for both AP use and the Rison 520 400 G in particular is at least in their testing as fast as an Intel Core i5 8400 paired with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 this makes the Rison 520 400 G at least a hundred bucks cheaper for the same supposed performance if not more considering you know the 8400 is rare and still sold at inflated prices and that's not to mention the risin 5 2400 G's lower total TDP of just 65 watts these AP you should overclock very well to a demo I saw showed the risin 5 2400 G hitting 17 50 megahertz on the GPU with the standard air cooler and when combined with fast memory this led to a near 40% uplift in 3d marked fire strike performance of course the risin 5 2400 GS CPU is also overclockable so you could potentially get even more out of this apu when you use the same overclocking techniques as existing rise and CPUs on top of this ami has announced a new box cool at the wraith prison which features a better Finn profile for compact systems direct copper heat pipe contact with the CPU and I guess that thing that all of you guys are after a ton more RTP lighting oh and Amy also made Rison CPU price cuts official we've seen reduced rise in CPU prices at places like Amazon and Newegg for a while now but AMD has now officially reduced the price of every rise and morale to keep them highly competitive with Intel if these cuts haven't pushed through to retail just yet they should be hopefully available very soon moving on to the mobile side of things we're AMD also made a bunch of announcements starting with the launch of Rison 3 AP use for mobile systems these ApS are a continuation of what AMD brought to the table with Rison 5 and Rison 7 from mobile except with lower core slashed thread counts and lower GPU compute unit counts the Rison 3 2300 you the first Rison 3 mobile part is a 4 core for thread part clocked at 2.0 gigahertz base with the 3.4 gigahertz maximum frequency which one was CPU perspective makes it a slightly lower clocked Rison 5 2500 you that lacks SMT it also features a cut-down GPU moving from 6 compute units from 8 in the rise and 5 model the low respect rise in three 2200 year round that AMD's line are providing a 2 core 4 thread C period 2.5 gigahertz boosting up to 3.4 gigahertz along with a 3 compute unit Vega GPU when looking at sort of the raw performance metrics I guess this should provide similar CPU and GPU performance as Intel 7th gen 15 watt mobile parts the best aspect to rise in mobile and Amy's latest announcements is we are starting to see aim to get these ApS in laptops people actually might consider buying aside from the HP Acer and Lenovo systems we've already seen at least on paper in some cases more devices from these OEMs along with the likes of Dell and a soos are in the pipeline and we will be seen these chips in a wide range of products everything from mainstream notebooks to high-end ultra portables in both thirteen and fifteen inch form factors I can't talk just yet about some of the laptops I've seen so far some of which look very enticing but it's clear AMD is getting much better om traction with Verizon mobile than their previous gen laptop parts and even Amb themselves say this apu generation has brought the widest range of consumer ultra thins in the company's history the risin three apos officially launched on January 9th although it may take a few weeks or months for partner models to hit the market we should however be seeing more rise in five and rise in seven laptops in January to round out AMD set of CES announcements we have vega now I wouldn't be getting too excited for any desktop announcements here because the only real desktop class product company revealed was a seven nanometer Vega variant for their Radeon instinct compute card line for you know data centers and that sort of thing Navi still seems a while away so perhaps we'll get more consumer Vega offerings at a later stage this year but you know nothing is confirmed at this stage Elise from what we heard about in the past couple of days what aim he did announce on the Vega front is Vega mobile a discrete GPU offering for ultra-thin gaming notebooks again not a whole lot of information on specifications but we do know Vega mobile will pack HBM too and it will feature a 1.7 millimeters ed height which makes the chip itself a lot slimmer than other mobile GPU offerings you know allowing OMS to create slimmer high-performance portable gaming systems the desktop vague offering for example features is ed height more in the three millimeter range no word on when Vega mobile discrete GPUs will be available but it doesn't sound too far away again this is something AMD will have to detail at a future date and as a quick note amy also revealed that modern Radeon cards will support HDMI 2.1 with variable refresh technology so I guess that's a kind of neat little addition there so anyway that's basically everything aimed he was ready to announce at this stage the rise in desktop ApS in particular sound quite interesting particularly for those looking at building a budget system so be interesting to see what Steve thinks of them when he gets his hands on them shortly considering performance should be in the ballpark of an Intel system with discrete GT 1030 graphics but you know in a far lower overall cost it could be a great option for those wanting to build a basic computer for some light gaming don't discount the overclocking support either that can bring some pretty serious performance gains here unfortunately we will have to wait a bit longer to hear more about second gen rise and though it's only a few months before those you hit the market and it's a little tidbit to get excited about in the future thread Ripper 2nd gen is slated for the second half of the as well so a lot of exciting stuff coming up that's it for now hopefully we'll be getting our hands on Ryze and desktop APs and some more rising robot products shortly we won't be doing a whole lot of other CES coverage as neither Steve or I will be at the event but you might see some occasional videos during this show as always if you like our content consider supporting us on patreon and when I'm back in Australia in the next couple of days I'll catch you next time you
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