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welcome back to harbor unbox for yet more rising content I promise that huge rx 580 vs GTX 1060 showdown is in coming soon in the meantime this will have to do a comparison between the horizon v 1400 and 1500 X both are quad core parts featuring SMT support for a grand total of eight threads two weeks ago we got our first look at the horizon 5 Series but unfortunately at the time I didn't have the six core 1600 and 4 core 1400 in hand instead I reviewed the 1600 X and 1500 X as it turns out the two hundred and $20 u.s. or $300 e6 core 1600 is the golden processor of the horizon 5 Series that said as good as the 1600 is I was still very pleased with how the quad core 1500 X handled itself so me this was pretty great news and not because the 1500 X is particularly great value at 190 us or $275 Aussie but because it should mean the cheaper 1400 will be an awesome option for bargain hunters the 1400 is priced alongside intel's dual-core 73 50k and although it's only 23 percent cheaper than the 1600 that hundred and seventy dollar US or two hundred and $45 ozzie asking price makes it much more attainable for most users there is however a possible catch the 1400 features half as much level 3 cache as these slightly more expensive 1500 X whereas the 1500 X packs a massive 16 megabyte level 3 cache the 1400 has a more mainstream core i7 like eight megabyte level 3 cache a megabytes are still quite a lot though so what if any kind of impact does this have on the 1400 this is the question a good many of you have been asking me over the past week so here we are time to find out and I guess I would say for gamers the reduce level 3 cache capacity will have minimal impact that being the case I'd recommend gamers save a little by getting the 1400 and overclocking the snot out of it however I never like to assume these things not when a little benchmarking can lead us to the truth so in total we have tested 6 games using the GeForce GTX tonight ETI along with a more realistic configuration using the Radeon our X 480 though be aware those results will be mostly GPU bound then of course for comparison we have these 1400 and 1500 X which have been tested out of the box as well as a 4 gigahertz clock for clock configuration which should be most telling finally the latest display drivers were installed and both CPUs were tested with ddr4 2933 memory this is the fastest memory speed I can run with these processors for now finally with the exception of ashes of the singularity all games have been tested using DirectX 11 to avoid the performance problems rise and phases when using DirectX 12 with an NVIDIA GPU starting with Battlefield one now if you move to the lower half of the graph we have the 1500 X and 1400 tested using their stock clock speeds with the GTX 10 atti here the 1500 X was 12% faster when looking at the average framerate and 16% for the minimum of course the 1500 X is clocked up to 13% higher out of the box so how do they compare clock for clock at 4 gigahertz well the margins are much similar here the 1500 X is just 4% faster for the average though it is still 7% faster when looking at the minimum now with a mid-range graphics card installed in the form of the Radeon our X 480 we see that the margins are completely neutralized here the 1500 X and 1400 look much the same as they are faced with a GPU limited scenario this time when testing with Deus Ex mankind of either we see that the 1500 X is 16 percent faster out of the box actually if we look at the point one percent frame time or the minimum frame rate it is in fact 22 percent faster overclocking the CPUs to 4 gigahertz helps to reduce the margin quite considerably now these fats are 1500 X is just 5% faster for both the average and minimum results basically that means having all that extra cash only led to a mere 5% increase in this title once again we find when using a more mainstream graphics card the margins close right up even when comparing the out-of-the-box configurations comparing the clock for clock performance at 4 gigahertz we find virtually no difference between the two CPUs hitman is a very CPU intensive title and here we see with the gtx 1080i that the 1500 x good bit faster out-of-the-box providing 12% more frames on average interestingly this time when overclocked the 1500 X managed to maintain a 7% performance advantage over the 1400 in fact with the our X 480 handling the rendering work the 1500 X was still able to flex its muscles and provide a little extra performance over the 1400 that said though when comparing the average frame rate for the clock for clock comparison the 1500 X was just 4% faster mafia 3 has some fairly typical results for us out of the box the 1500 X was 12% faster than the 1400 while that margin was reduced to 7% when comparing the clock for clock for gear hurts performance the our X 480 results are quite typical at least once the cpus are overclocked oddly though at their stock speeds the 1500 X was 19% faster which is a surprising result with the AMD GPU that said once overclocked to the 1400 did match the 1500 X total war Warhammer is another very CPU intensive video game and here the 1500 X was 16% faster when comparing these stock performance with both CPUs overclocked 2 though 2 4 gigahertz the 1500 X was still 10% faster which is quite a large margin considering the only difference here is the level 3 cache capacity however once we drop in the our X 480 that margin is reduced to nothing and now we find the same performance from both processors even before any other clocking takes place like warhammer ashes of the singularity is another CPU torture test before any overclocking takes place the 1500 X is seen delivering 7% more performance which actually isn't that much more for this kind of title interestingly even once overclocked that margin remains much the same the frame rate has increased for both CPUs but the 1500 X remains 7% faster as we found multiple times already running with the our X 480 does once again change the story the 1500 X might be 6% faster out of the box but once we overclock both CPUs the margin is again reduced to nothing okay so we clearly saw some differences when comparing the 1400 and 1500 X at the same clock speed which was interesting that said this was really only noticeable with an extreme high end GPU for the most part performance looked much the same I went asking the are X 480 with the rendering work of course this is due to the fact that we are mostly GPU bound here keeping that in mind let's focus our attention towards the average views for the five games tested using the gtx 1080i and please no ashes of the singularity has been dropped as i didn't measure frame time performance in that title here we see that out of the box without any tweaking the 1500 X was on average 12% faster than the 1400 when looking at the average frame rate that margin is extended ever so slightly to 14% we're looking at the minimum or 0.1% result depending on the workload the 1500 X is clocked between 8 and 13 percent faster than the 1400 so these margins make sense removing the clock speed variation by running both processes and all of their cores at 4 gigahertz we see that on average the 1500 X was still 5% faster when comparing the average frame rate and 7% faster if you look at the minimum results so that extra level 3 cache clearly makes a difference for gaming albeit not a terribly significant one still when you consider the fact that 1500 X does cost just 12% more and we saw on average a 7% boost to the minimum frame rate you have to wonder if it's worth buying the 1400 at all that said if you are using a mid-range graphics card such as the rx 480 or now rx 580 or the gtx 1060 then the clock for clock performance is neutralized in almost all the games tested also keep in mind that we did stick to mostly testing with CPU intensive games therefore games that are mostly GPU bound such as titanfall 2 Call of Duty infinite warfare or for honor for example those games will struggle to take advantage of the 1500 X's larger cache so I think you really have to take a step back and work out who would buy the r5 1400 and why clearly this is a processor designed for someone on a tight budget it doesn't want to settle for a dual core Core i3 or a locked core i5 after all you do get four cores and eight threads with the 1400 so it's not exactly going to become inadequate any time soon chances are if you're playing around with what was previously core i3 73 50k money you're not in the market for a geforce gtx 1080i rather the RX 480 or RX 580 is going to fit the bill a little better at these price points saving every dollar really helps and while having a full 16 megabyte level three cash would be nice if it's not going to net you anymore performance with your setup then what's the point there's also that vicious cycle of spending if you're going to spend $20 more to get the full fat quad-core why not spend another $30 to get the six core 12 threads 1,600 this is the conundrum many consumers are facing at the moment if you're on a tight budget I would recommend picking up the 4,100 rather than stretching the budget to the 1600 for gamers if you're going to come up with that extra $50 you're much better off investing that money back into your GPU instead after all that's the difference between a gtx 1050 and an RX 570 for example i can already envision the comments-section now Steve can you compare the 1400 AD 1604 gigahertz damn it why didn't I do that in this video I really do need to get on to that massive rx 580 versus gtx 1060 comparison though finally they before wrapping things up i should note that the 1400 comes with the smaller wraith stealth cooler and their 65 watt model won't support the 4 gigahertz overclock sharing this video so you will have to spend at least $20 on a basic taylor style cooler now if you plan to push the 1500 x 2 4 gigahertz or try for four point one of you goods then an upgraded cooler will probably be in order as well well I hope this video has at least help you narrow the choice between the 1400 and the 1500 X and possibly even the 1600 even though that model wasn't included ultimately though if you are mindful of the hardware in your system then it might not actually make sense to overextend on the CPU front and remember every dollar you save now can be put towards upgrading to Rison 2 down the track and this is probably a more sensible choice for budget gamers because a 6 core 8 core CPU will probably be more beneficial in a year or so as time and that's all for this one time to wrap things up if you liked the video please hit the like button you haven't subscribed already then I recommend you do so so you won't miss other videos like this and speaking of other videos I'm in the process of setting up the patreon account for a harbor unboxed so if you would like to make a small donation each month that would be greatly 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