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welcome back to harbor unboxed for today's video we are looking into which one of AMD's new risin five six core CPUs you should buy assuming you're in the market for a new CPU price between 200 and 250 dollars u.s. now I realize that for some of you the answer might seem obvious and I did suggest in my day one coverage just a few days ago now that you should in fact buy the plane 9 X 1600 model unfortunately I didn't have a 1600 chip on hand for a release day coverage so I couldn't go into too much detail or speak from experience I just assumed based on we had seen with Verizon 7 that the 1600 would overclock nearly as well as the 1600 X therefore in terms of performance the 1600 X and 1600 should be very evenly matched the advantage of the 1600 being that it comes bundled with a 95 watt cooler known as the Wraith spire well the 1600 X doesn't come with a cooler at all so once you factor in the cost of a basic air cooler for the 1600 X model the non x version is more like 20% cheaper and out of the box it shouldn't be more than 10% slower worst case so what makes the 1600 X X rated the answer xf r or if you like to drive people crazy refer to it as extended frequency range every chance you get essentially xf r is a beefed-up version of the standard turbo frequency feature basically various limiters such as power current and thermals are all in within acceptable ranges the CPU will overclock itself a little harder this is a feature that is enabled on the ex model C if you use by default ironically one way to disable xf r is to manually overclock the CPU but i'll discuss that a bit more in a moment the 1600 x features a base clock speed of 3.6 ago a boost clock of 4 gigahertz and a maximum x FR boost speed of 4.1 gigahertz that said those figures on their own or a little misleading the boost frequencies for example only allow the 1600 to get 4 to 4.1 gigahertz for single-thread workloads for multi-threaded workloads the CPU won't actually boost higher than 3.7 gigahertz so a mere 3% increase over the base frequency the 1600 on the other hand operated a base clock frequency of just 3.2 gigahertz and it's advertised to boost aside is 3.6 years so again that boost frequency will only be achieved when taxing a single core I mentioned that the advertised maximum boost frequency is 3.6 gigahertz however stressing a single core in most cases see the 1600 exhibit excel file like games hitting 3.7 gigahertz so that's interesting it seems like all Rison cpus do actually feature XFR finally the maximum multi-core frequency is 3.4 gigahertz so that means the heavy workloads the 1600 is clocked just 8% lower than the 1600 X now as I mentioned earlier none of this really matters if you plan to overclock and since all rising CPUs are unlocked and the 1600 can be pushed quite hard with the Wraith spire box cooler certainly worth looking into we already know that if you don't plan to overclock the 1600 X is the fastest CPU as it's clocked higher but the 1600 is actually better value whichever way you plan to go because it can only be 10% slower and yet at least 20% more affordable thanks to the included Box cooler and lower price tag but when it comes time to overclock does the 1600 X offer more Headroom rumor is the X models are been chips capable of greater frequencies and we have seen a little evidence of this with the 1700 X and 1700 chips though for the most part the margins were very small the 1600 X chip that I have had no trouble hitting 4.1 gigahertz with just one point three eight volts and it was even possible to benchmark the system at 4.2 gigahertz though that required an i/o ordering 1.5 volts AMD recommends a maximum of one point four five volts for sustained use using the same one point three eight volts the 1600 was limited to four gigahertz which isn't bad and increasing the voltage of fraction more to one point four allowed us to achieve a stable overclock of 4050 megahertz so that's just 50 megahertz shy of what the 1600 X managed of course this could very easily have gone the other way I just happened to receive a very good 1600 X I've seen plenty of reviewers and now some users limited to 4 gigahertz with the 1600 X so as always with overclocking your mileage will vary that said I would expect almost all to hit at least four gigahertz for single thread workloads the overclock won't actually be any faster than the the box 4.1 gigahertz xfr performance so multi-threaded performance the 1600 X will be up to 11% faster while the 1600 X will be up to 21% faster that being said let's take a quick look at some benchmarks and I really do mean a quick look this isn't an in-depth rising 5 1600 review in fact it's not a review at all that will come later along with the quad-core 1400 model something I should note right away is that even with G skills new Flair X ddr4 3200 CL 14 memory the horizon 5 1600 was limited to running the memory at 29 33 this is the same limitation we faced with the 1500 X so high-speed memory support is still very dependent on the CPU this will hand the 1600 X a slight advantage over the advantage it already has due to those higher clock speeds in any case even with ddr4 29:33 memory the 1600 was still good for a memory throughput of 35 gigabytes per second using Cinebench r15 to measure single and multi-threaded performance we see that the 1600 X is 10% faster for the multi-threaded test and 11% faster for the single thread test this is about what we would expect to see out of the box remember the 1600 X is clocked 11% higher for single thread workloads and 9% higher thumb multitrader workloads so these figures make sense here we have some results based on a real application 7-zip both the compression and decompression tests use all available threads on the 1600 X and 1600 here the 1600 X was around 7 or 8 percent faster than the 1600 so those figures are in line with what we just saw previously in Cinebench and again given the out-of-the-box clock speed these are the margins that we would expect to see testing gaming performance with hitman we find the 1600 x is just 4 percent faster than the 1600 when comparing either the average or minimum frame rates obviously not a significant performance difference and this does explain why we didn't see any worthwhile performance gains in most games when overclocking rise and ashes of the singularity escalation is the only other game I tested with to compare the 1600 and 1600 X this time we see a mere 2 to 3 percent performance advantage in favor of the 1600 X so again it looks like when it comes to gaming spending more on the 1600 X is a poor return on investment now when overclocking these Rison 5 CPUs we find that for which is equalized the 1600 fell just 50 megahertz shy of the 1600 X when using reasonable voltages this is obviously a negligible difference and as you can see both CPUs led the Titan X big P to average 88 FPS so as we suspected the rise in v 1600 is the obvious choice here in a nutshell for 250 dollars us you can get the 1600 X and a mostly empty box with the 1600 though you paid 220 us you get a bigger box and this time it's not empty inside you'll find the nice big erase spire cooler so throw the 1600 and the included cooler on an affordable be 350 motherboard then pair it with something like G skills flare X ddr4 2400 16 gigabyte memory kit overclock the memory as high as you can 29:33 should be possible with relaxed timings and then overclock the CPU to 4 you hurt and you're set all up you have the core components for a killer 6 chord 12 thread rig for no more than 400 us hmm how much does Intel's Core i7 6000 okay Costigan yeah looking at it that way there are eyes in 5 1600 is exceptional value as I found earlier this week even when compared to the more affordable CPU such as the core i5 7600 K the new 6 core Verizon CPUs are a much better buy regardless of what it is you plan to do with the system however there's not much reason for anyone to purchase the 1600 X over the 1600 as you're just paying more for less you might be wondering then why am they would release a 1600 X type product at all and I'd say it exists simply to maximize profit AMD is playing a similar game to Intel here with these chips the difference of course being that they are doing it without completely taking advantage of enthusiasts who want to save a little money when it comes to 1600 you're being rewarded for doing your homework and a little tinkering ok so that concludes this video I hope it's clear now why you guys should be buying a regular Rison v 1600 processor over the more flashy sounding 1600 X as I mentioned earlier I will be covering the 1600 in more detail soon and I'll also be checking out the budget quad core Verizon v 1400 as well the 1400 model will be compared with the core i5 7400 and core i3 70 350 K and I might even try to throw in the ultra affordable G 45 60 as well all at some point I'll also be testing their eyes in five CPUs and the competing Intel chips in a wide range of games using not just the ultra-fast gtx 1080i which does help point to future performance but will also be testing with some more realistic configurations as well using the gtx 1070 1060 and our X 480 I also plan to revisit rise in memory performance I recently checked out of Verizon does indeed benefit from faster clocked memory the idea really wasn't CF rise and scaled better than say KB Lake with faster memory and the short answer is no it doesn't the reasons I'm going to revisit this topic though is to show you guys if you actually need to spend money on the premium ddr4 3,200 memory or should you just save and get the 2,400 stuff I did see nice gains from the faster memory but remember I was using the GTX 1080i so things might be very different with the GTX 1060 for example finally I'm also working on the side to complete the second half of that is it worth buying GPU video the first half looked at the GTX 970 while part two we'll focus on the r9 390 the results so far for the AMD GPU are very impressive so I want to try and get that one done next week I'll see how I go for time no doubt a few more things will pop up in the meantime I should also have a few board partner versions of the mighty gtx 980ti coming in the next week or so so that's exciting as usual things never seem to slow down alright guys I'm going to go on and get out of you now before I think of anything else I hope you enjoyed today's video I'm your host Steve catch again soon