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welcome back to harbor unboxed today's comparison is one that I've been promising for quite some time now and with Computex 2019 out of the way I thought it was time I finally made it happen I am of course talking about an updated comparison between the risin 5 1600 and the core i5 7600 K so it's time to see which processor offers gamers the best performance in 2019 before that though today's video is sponsored by Corsair and there void Pro RGB and HS 70 wireless gaming headsets both offer an exceptional audio experience using specially tuned 50 millimeter neodymium speaker drivers and the premium build quality means they're not just highly durable but also very comfortable both offer a 16 hour runtime with a slew of other features so for more information please check them out via the link in the video description now back in 2017 when the are 560 Hera was first released you could quite easily argue in favor of the 7600 K as it was the better gaming CPU at the time it was faster in the vast majority of games and in games that were considered to be quite old at the time but still rather popular the 70 Satake was much faster however for newly-released titles so that is newly-released titles in 2017 they were for the most part quite evenly matched and we saw in some of the more heavy a core heavy games such as ashes of the singularity the rise in cpu was a little bit faster but performance in titles such as battlefield 1 for example were also more consistent that said we still saw the rise in processors struggle in a number of titles such as ARMA 3 day 6 mankind divided Far Cry primal Grand Theft Auto 5 total war Warhammer - and watchdogs - for example despite that though I preferred the Rison 5 1600 overall as it was cheaper and I believed represented better value it featured superior platform support came with a box cooler and generally beat the core i5 processor in productivity workloads in fact for intensive workloads the Rison 5 1600 mimicked what we saw from the core i7 77 are ok and that was hugely impressive for the time for those reasons and more just two months after its release we named the rising five sixteen hundred as the best value desktop CPU that said I noted that for high refresh rate gaming the seventy six Enrique would be the better choice at least in the short term but I did expect the extra two cores and eight threads of the rise and five processor to come in handy before too long well it's now roughly two years later and we haven't really revisited this comparison rather the focus over the last year or so has been on these n+ processors such as the risin 5 2600 today though all that changes but before we get into the results here's a quick look at the test system specs the risin 5 1600 was tested on the msi be 450 tomahawk using g.skill ripjaws v series ddr4 3200 cell 15 memory then the core i5 7600 k was tested on the asrock z 270 Taichi with the same g.skill ripjaws 5 memory both systems are also configured using the extreme memory profile while MC was disabled on the Intel system at least for the stock testing both also used the gigabyte RC X 20 80 TI horas extreme and the CPUs were cooled using the corsair hydro series age 100 i pro RGB all-in-one liquid cooler both CPUs were tested stock and then with a realistic overclock applied so we're not pretending every CPU sold is of the highest quality silicon in total there are eight games tested at two resolutions so over 200 benchmark runs were made to create this content certainly not our biggest benchmark session ever but a decent effort overall I think anyway enough chitchat let's get into the results first up we have the newest title that when our benchmarking with Rage 2 in this game uses the Vulkan API exclusively and to be honest it's not the most demanding CPU title out there as we found it plays pretty well on a modest quad-core as you can see here the core i5 7600 K offered a slight performance bump over the Rison v 1600 though given the clock speed deficit you'd probably expect the margins to be a little greater than that 1080p with an RT X xx atti then moving to 1440p we see similar margins the Core i5 processor is a little faster out of the box but once we overclocked both processes that margin is reduced to almost nothing World War Z supports DirectX 11 and Vulcan but for Best Performance we always test with the Vulcan API here we see that although CPUs allowed for well over 100 FPS out of the box the 7600 K was 14% faster on average again this is another title isn't particularly taxing on the CPU and we found that modern quad cores will get the job done as we move to 1440p we set the margins I've virtually eliminated here the 7600 K was just 4 percent faster other box and three percent once both CPUs were overclocked if you're a call back my first benchmarks gaming performance for the rise in 1000 series we found that Far Cry primal was a particularly bad title for AMD's new rise in CPUs it seems single thread performance is the key here that means far cry games just developed with rising in mind despite AMD sponsoring the latest installment in the series though I believe that was mostly to optimize for their Radeon technology anyway whatever the case the rice and CPUs don't do well in Far Cry games and we have another good example of that here with far cry new dawn although the r5 1600 was able to deliver smooth gameplay it was still much slower than the core i5 7600 K which delivered a whopping 25% more frames the margins are very similar at 1440p as well here the r5 1600 isn't able to come back and we saw way better performance out of the core i5 processor I should just note that I'm aware that some media have reported frame stuttering even with the latest 6 core Core i5 processors in Far Cry 5 and Far Cry new dawn but I have to say the experience was certainly no worse than what we saw from the Rison 5 1600 the hitman 2 results for the 7600 K are a bit strange given how CPU limited this title is you'd expect a 23% or call frequency boost for the Core i5 processor to have a rather significant impact on performance but here it really doesn't we only saw a few extra frames from the 7600 K once overclocked I should note that we do often see strange results when testing with hitman 2 and I honestly don't know what's going on here with her NPC heavy benchmark the r5 1600 on the other hand saw a decent 6 percent performance boost from its 8% or core overclock so yeah that makes sense and we see similar margins are 1440p overall both CPUs delivered a similar gaming experience in hitman two okay so things are getting a little bit interesting here shadow of the Tomb Raider is one of the most demanding games that's been released in the last year the five 1600 was noticeably smoother in this title and with 22% more frames on average it was a lot faster and interestingly again we see that once overclocked the 70 secondary K appears so heavily choked that the frequency increase doesn't really help there appears to be some other kind of bottleneck here the performance gains for the r5 1600 overclocked are very mild but also much more in line with the frequency increase and then once we move to 1440p the r5 1600 continues to blitz the 76 and okay offering almost 30% more performance when both CPUs are overclocked horizon 5 1600 also proves to be the superior choice when testing with Assassin's Creed Odyssey this is another modern demanding title here the Rison 5 processor offered 16% more performance out of the box and once the CPU is overclocked it was still 13% faster then we see at the more GPU limited 1440p resolution that the results come together but even so once overclocked the r5 1600 still enabled 8% more performance and overall was slightly smoother ok so this is the first time we've really seen the core i5 76 an arcade full completely flat on its face and while battlefield 5 was still playable the experience was pretty horrible compared to the smooth r5 1600 we saw a similar thing in our day 1 rising coverage though not to the quite this extent back then the 7600 K provided higher frame rates on average in battlefield 1 but the 1% low performance was noticeably weaker today when testing with battlefield 5 the 1% low performance is a bit of a disaster for the 7600 K and this means although the r5 1600 was only slightly faster on average the actual gaming experience was really world's better and we see at the core i5 7600 case still crash and burned at 1440p this really is a game that requires more than 4 cores and 4 threads even if they are clocked at around 5 gigahertz another series of horrible results for the core i5 7600 K can be seen when testing with the division to hear the Rison 5 CPU was 33% faster out of the box when comparing the average frame rate of 32% faster for the 1% low result that margin is reduced once both CPUs are overclocked but even so the r5 1600 was still 25% faster on average and 4% faster for the 1% low then we sent 1440p at the are 5 1600 store remains well ahead even with both CPU is overclocked it really is the clear winner here that concludes the testing but for those of you who either weren't paying attention or you've just skipped to this point of the video I will quickly summarize what we found overall the risin 5 1600 was really only noticeably slower in a single game and that game was far cry new dawn before which was still very smooth though and the game was very playable but the frame rates were quite a bit down on what we saw with the core i5 7600 K the Rison processor was also slightly slower in World War Z while performance was much the same enraged - and hitman then as we move into the more demanding modern titles we found r5 6100 to be a good bit faster in Assassin's Creed Odyssey and their world's faster when testing with battlefield 5 shut off the term Raider and the division 2 so these findings really are in line with what I said and found roughly two years ago now back then the core i5 7600 K was faster in the majority of games as I mentioned earlier in their video and there were a number of older titles where the rise in CPUs did struggle however even back then rise and still showed a lot of promise it performed really well in the most demanding titles of the time and overall we found it was more consistent back then I did recommend the rise in 5 1600 over the core i5 76 hurricane for a number of reasons I felt many were relevant at the time but one future reason was that I believed it would eventually end up being the better gaming CPU and this has certainly ended up being the case as demonstrated in titles such as Assassin's Creed Odyssey battlefield 5 shut off the Tomb Raider and the division 2 it just seemed to me that the horizon 5 1600 just had so many more CPU resources that eventually those would come into play and it would probably happen sooner rather than later so it is a bit different to the situation we see between processors such as the Rison 720 700 X and core i7 87 or okay for example that said I should just note that if you're still playing older titles such as Far Cry primal Grand Theft Auto 5 and I don't know total war Warhammer - for example then the core i5 7600 K will deliver superior performance in those game though the horizon 5/6 data will still comfortably provide playable performance taking all this into consideration if you were faced with upgrading or building a new PC and mid 2017 you have the choice between the core i5 7600 km rising 5 1600 and you needed this new PC to last a few years between upgrades and you intended on playing the latest and greatest games well if you want the 7600 K I have to say you made a mistake today the r5 1600 is the superior performer enabling highly playable performance in all the latest games while the 7600 cave struggles in a number of tiles and often provides disappointing results then as a bonus if you did invest in the am 4 platform two years ago you now have the luxury of upgrading to what is expected to be a much more powerful than 2 processor without having to change your motherboard meanwhile 7600 K owners have to pay through the nose for a 7700 K as that's really their only feasible upgrade option or at least if they want to stay on the platform it's probably not a feasible upgrade option because you'd be better off just buying a be 350 motherboard and a then to process or a B feel 50 board or whatever but anyway if you want to enable playable performance on your existing system then a 7700 K will be required to run titles such as battlefield 5 smoothly in fact there's almost no chance you'll land a secondhand 7700 K for less than what a brand new Rison 530 600 X is going to cost as a side note for this video I've obviously only focused on gaming performance but if you care at all about core heavy application performance then there really isn't too much more to discuss here the Rison v 1600 absolutely thrashed the 7600 k at launch so nothing will have changed here if anything rise ins actually improved in this area as software continues to be optimized for there's an architecture and not only that but the platform itself has matured quite a lot and as a consequence it is now faster and more stable meanwhile the kb lake arranged along with all Intel processors have become slower due to the security vulnerabilities that were publicly revealed in early 2018 anyway it's been great to see how AMD's rise in CPUs have totally transformed the desktop PC landscape and such a short period of time I expect the horizon 5 1600 to continue running away with it as we get newer and more demanding games and I suspect it won't be too much longer before it's constantly nipping at the heels of the core i7 7700 K and that is going to do it for this one if you enjoy the video be sure to the like button much appreciate it you can subscribe for more content and if you appreciate what we do then you can support us on patreon you get access 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