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Ryzen 5 2600X Overclocking & Tweaking Methods Explored, Spend $$$ on Cooling or RAM?

2018-05-28
welcome back to harbor unbox today we're going to explore second gen arising overclocking a little more closely with the risin v 2600 exxon their sous our OD across s7 hero I do plan to do the same with the horizon 720 700 X but for now we're going to focus on the cheaper six core part back when I first reviewed the horizon 520 600 X I found when using the old-fashioned multiplier method after boosting the alcohol frequency that it was only possible to increase the single core performance by two to three percent this overclock pushed all six cores to 4.2 gigahertz and although the maximum boost clock from a single core is 4.2 gigahertz we still saw a small performance increase though I suspect this was down to the fact that no performance loss was seen when switching between calls throughout the workload we did see a slightly better four to five percent boost for the core heavier workloads but even that makes it difficult to justify the overclock which does require upgraded cooling due to the increased thermal load and of course power draw that said there is an alternative way to overclock the rise in processes that offers better single core performance and I Suz put together a document explaining this method about a month ago now we found previously that most of the good quality first gen rising parts could hit 4 gigahertz but an all-call 4 Giga hos overclock often didn't net you any extra performance in like a threaded workloads and at times could even reduce performance this is because EXO fire has the potential to push processes such as the risin 5 1600 X horizon 7 1800 X and all the thread ripper models to four point one to four point two units for lightly threaded workloads with the horizon 520 600 X capable of hitting 4.2 gigahertz and the horizon 7 2,700 x 4.3 gigahertz overclocking all cost of four or four point one gigahertz can unlikely will reduce performance and as I found 4.2 gigahertz offers very little in the way of actual performance for life threaded workloads so rather than lock all course at a designated frequency or soos and other board makers are taking advantage of AMD's extended frequency range or XO fired version through technology by pushing it to its limits using precision boost overdrive now I know hearing words and acronyms like xf are do get a bit confusing and you will hear things - imprecision boost to precision boost override or overdrive or PBO and then on top of that you have motherboard makers such as a soos that have their own marketing terms a soos has attempted to somewhat simplify this method of overclocking but there are still a few key steps involved first stop is the performance enhancer which has a few options available level 1 and level 2 operate within the AMD spec so you want to ignore those and go straight for level 3 while avoiding level 4 unless you're an extreme overclockers using ln2 with the performance enhancer set to level 3 you want to make sure the core performance boost is also enabled then I strongly recommend manually setting the CPU core voltage as the auto or offset modes around my 2600 up to crazy high voltages somewhere between one point four five and one point five five volts I found my 2600 X was perfectly stable at one point four volt and going below that did cause the system to lock up using the performance enhancer level three option finally you can push things a little further by increasing the base clock though be aware this will also overclock your memory using the synchronous mode which you definitely want to use this method though is likely going to be more effective for those using the rise in 720 700 X and I was only able to achieve a base clock overclock of just a single megahertz and as you might imagine this only had a very minor impact on performance so I'm gonna ignore that option for the 2600 X so for testing we do have a few games to check out as almost everyone who has requested this video did ask that I look into how these various overclocking methods impact gaming performance in total there are 5 test configurations for a baseline we have the horizon 520 600 X unaltered using ddr4 29:33 memory with these standard XMP settings but rather than using the Box cooler the corsair h 150 i pro has been used and I've used this closed-loop cooler for all the testing in this video then we have the horizon 520 600 x with ddr4 3400 memory using the XMP settings and then the same configuration again but with the Stiltz timings enabled then we have the ddr4 3400 configuration with the Stiltz timings plus a 4.2 G here it's all core overclock using the standard multiplier method and finally a precision boost overdrive overclock using the performance enhancer level 3 option and again ddr4 3400 memory with the stilts timings enabled all right you got a lap let's get to the results here's a look at the operating frequencies for the single and multi-threaded workloads for the various configurations for these stock core configurations so before we overclock the horizon processor using the different memory configurations we see a single core frequency of 4.2 gigahertz with an all core frequency of 4 gigahertz then our 4.2 gigahertz multiplier overclock resulting in a fixed 4.2 gigahertz operating clock speed for both these single and multi-threaded tests then finally the precision boost over drive configuration pushed both the single and all core workloads to a maximum stable operating frequency of 4.3 gigahertz it would be possible to achieve this overclock using the multiplier method but at idle the cause wouldn't drop down from 4.3 gigahertz that being said let's check out the power consumption figures stock the risin 520 600 push total system consumption 176 watts and an idle consume just 56 watts the all core 4.2 gigahertz overclocked push system consumption 15% higher hitting 203 watts which isn't that bad that said we will likely only see a very small increase in performance based on our previous benchmarks the idle consumption only increased by 7% which again isn't bad especially given all cause our locked at 4.2 gigahertz because the precision boost overdrive is pushing the 2600 X to its limits in both these single and multitrader workloads power consumption is similar to that of the multiplier overclock ok so now we can take a look at the difference these over clocks make at least in cinema r15 the 2600 X pad with the ddr4 3400 memory using these stilts timings produced a single core score of a hundred and seventy four points with a multi-threaded score of thirteen hundred and ninety-two points manually overclocking the 2600 X using the multiplier method improved this single core score by 2% and the multi-threaded score by 5% so very much like what we saw in our day 1 review the precision boost over drive configuration improved these single and multi-threaded scores by a further 2% which makes sense given the CPU operating frequency has been increased by 2.4 percent so what kind of impact have on gaming we're not GPU limited when testing with fire cry 5 we see a missed six percent increase in frame time performance when going from the ddr4 3400 configuration with the improved timings to the 4.2 gigahertz or core overclock the precision boost overdrive overclock which pushed the cause 100 megahertz higher scored as an extra frame on average with no increase seen for the one percent low result we see much the same way in testing with ARMA 3 both overclocking methods yield similar results making them four to six percent faster than the stock core configuration using the tweaked memory lastly here are some fortnight results and this title isn't as GPU limited as the previous two tiles we looked at with the GTX 10 atti eternity P that said though the overclocks did only provide three to four percent more performance by far the biggest gain seen here can be found when tightening up the sub memory timings this was only a brief exploration video but I think we covered everything we needed to with the risin 520 600 X the general consensus on launch days seemed to be that overclocked in the EX models wasn't worth the added power draw heat and of course investment and while that certainly seems to be the case with the 2600 X the horizon 720 700 X should be a bit different as it has a higher single core operating frequency and we're missing out on that when using these simple multiplier method so that's something I certainly want to look into shortly but for Rison 520 600 X owners there really is little to be gained by overclocking especially if you fine-tune those memory timings which you really should a step one for second gen Rison owners and I suppose even first generalize and owners really is to lock down those memory timings and we saw we're not limited by the GPU gamers stand to gain around 10 percent more performance just by tightening those sub timings so rather than invest money in a fancy closed-loop cooler invested in some Samsung B die memory and look up how to fine-tune that stuff we do have a video on that so go check that out and that is going to do it for this one if you did enjoy the video be sure to the like button subscribe for more content if you appreciate the work we do here at Harbor unbox then consider supporting us on patreon thanks for watching I'm your host Steve and I'll see you next time
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