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welcome back to hammer on box today I have a classic head-to-head cpu comparison for you and it's been a while since I've done one of these and today's comparison might seem a little odd at first well it might be odd period but we're doing it anyway before that today's video sponsor is deep cool and they're amazing anti leaked technology featured in the new captain 240 Pro after years of research and development deep core has created a leak free all-in-one liquid cooler using that patented automatic pressure relieving radiator which as the name suggests fence any air pressure from within the loop to avoid leakage for more information please check the link in the video description recently when I put my top 5 best desktop CPUs video together I noticed that quite a few of you had access to cheap first generalising processes and by quite a few of you I mean those that live in places such as the u.s. in Europe not Australia had access to yeah really really really cheap first gen rising process as a standard option for me was the rise in seven seventeen hundred quite incredible the eight core sixteen thread processor was selling for a hundred and sixty dollars us that was available at major retailers such as Amazon and Newegg and yeah just an incredible deal that and it meant you could either get the r7 1700 or the r5 2600 that said for those of you buying new my primary choice in this price range was actually the horizon 520 600 X as it is only $20 more at least it was at the time making that video then the non ex model and it comes with a much better cooler and more aggressive clock speeds out of the box so I felt the small price premium really was worth it however since making that video quite a few of you have asked me if the horizon 7 1700 was worth buying over the 2600 X and naturally you do get two extra cores and well that's pretty good the downside though being that you miss out on any of those n+ optimizations and they do make the second gen part a little more responsive a bit snappier if you will for productivity workloads that require many cores the r7 1700 is a more obvious choice the clock speed disadvantage and higher memory latency generally come buy a 33% increase in cause that said if your workload doesn't require eight cause then the 2600 X will be faster then for those of you who are prioritizing gaming which I feel is probably most of our audience which CPU is better well based on our day one coverage you'd have to go with the 2600 X but a year later has anything changed today's game is more demanding well that's what we're here to find out for all the testing I've used the GeForce r-tx 20 atti to help minimize the GPU bottleneck but before some of you groan about how using such an extreme GPU is unrealistic and whatnot please note all the testing takes place at 1080p 1440p and 4k so the 4k results will be comparable to say 1080p with a mid-range graphics card moreover those of you using lower quality settings with a lesser graphics card will actually see higher frame rates since the integrated memory controller of the second gen Rison processors is much improved I didn't hamper the 2600 X when it came to memory instead I pair it with 16 gigabytes of ddr4 3416 memory the r7 1700 on the other hand that was limited to ddr4 2933 memory and by limited I mean it wouldn't actually work with faster memory it simply wouldn't burn it up but again I did use a 16 gigabyte kit this time though with slightly tighter CL 15 timings both CPUs were tested on the gigabyte x4 70 horas gaming 7 Wi-Fi with the standard box coolers please note I'm not looking into overclocking if you're interested in that then you can find those results in our day 1 review the margins won't really have changed I'm also going to be focusing mostly on gaming there'll be a couple of application graphs at the end of the video but again the application performance won't really have changed since our day 1 review so there's really no point going over all that again so the focus will be on gaming namely new games so let's get into the benchmarks first up we have vermintide 2 and this is a good example of a tiler isn't particularly CPU intensive at least not when comparing 6 & 8 core processors basically we're seeing identical performance out of the 1700 and 2,600 X despite what looks to be cpu-bound performance at 1080p with the RCX 20 ATT I still not much to report here so let's move on to Assassin's Creed Odyssey ok so the results here are a little more interesting the Rison 7 1700 is seen limiting performance at 1080p quite heavily in fact when looking at the 1% lower result here the 2600 X was offering 26% more performance keeping frame rates above 60 fps at all times moving to 1440p and now we're becoming GPU bound but even so the average frame rate was still 10% greater using the 2600 X then once we hit 4k we are mostly GPU limited but even here the 2600 X's improved latency and support for faster memory did account for a small difference although Fortnight isn't a particular CPU demanding tile again when discussing 12 and 16 thread processors we do see quite a significant performance uplift with the 2600 X obviously the clock speed advantage and improved memory performance is playing a key role here the 2600 X was up to 20% faster at 1080p and still provided up to 17% more performance at 1440p then by the time we hit the 4k resolution the margin was reduced to nothing and by this point we're seeing the same performance regardless of which cpus used apex legends is also not a particularly CPU demanding title but we do see up to a 10% performance advantage going the way of the 2600 X at 1080p this margins reduced to 7 percent at 1440p and then completely eliminated at 4k and I have to say given that the non GPU bound results are all over 140 fps the difference probably doesn't matter here too much moving on we have Resident Evil 2 and here the 2600 x EK out a few extra frames at 1080p offering around 9% more performance that margin was half dat 1440p and then completely eliminated at 4k so depending on the quality settings and resolution you might see up to a 10% difference but most likely you'll see no difference at all in this title next up we have Just Cause 4 and this time we do see up to a 15% performance advantage going the way of the horizon 520 600 X even at 40 forty Peter 2600 X was eight percent faster not a massive margin by any stretch of the imagination but still a decent performance boost at this typically more GPU demanding resolution hitman two is always a bit of an odd title here we see the r7 1700 creating a bottleneck at all three resolutions as it limited the RCX 20 atti to just 72 FPS however we did see a consistent drop to the one percent low performance as the resolution was increased and the 4k result in particular is quite unusual the 2600 X allowed for up to a 10 percent performance boost and offered a more consistent one percent low result project cars to seize the 2600 delivering up to 10 percent more performance at 1080p and 12 percent more at 1440p the 2600 X does appear to be GPU limited at 1080p and 1440p while this is only true for the r7 1700 at 1080p by the time we hit 4k both CPUs are heavily GPU limited so performance is much the same the 2600 X was up to 15% faster and Rainbow six siege and even at 1440p offered slightly more performance though with both CPUs capable of over 120 FPS at all times you have to wonder how much those margins matter moving on I have to say I was quite surprised as in the 2600 X up to 20% faster in battlefield 5 even at 1080p basically the horizon 7 1700 was limiting the r-tx 20 atti to around 100 FPS on our tests so this created a bottleneck atonia P that resulted in similar performance seen at 1440p that said at 1440p we are still primarily GPU limited and this is of course even more true at 4k World of Tanks might better utilize rice and CPUs today but still not exactly a CPU intensive title the r5 2600 X edge slightly had at 1080p and 1440p by an insignificant margin and then as usual we were GPU limited at 4k Metro Exodus is another Tyrell it's not particularly CPU demanding at least for a modern processor and again while the 2600 X was fast at 1080p and 1440p the r7 1700 was still providing strong frame rates I wouldn't say Far Cry new Dawn's a the CPU demanding title either but rising CPUs have always performed a little bit strange in the Far Cry series the primal results were always very odd and we we saw that when we first started testing the first generation rising processors the game seems quite sensitive to memory latency and despite being what Wilkes CPU limited at 1080p even with the 2600 ex the rise and 5 processor was still 12% faster and this was seen again at 1440p so the faster memory and lower latency of the 2600 ex has to be accountable for this difference what's really strange here is that we continue to see the r7 1700 fall away at the 4k resolution which should be entirely GPU bound here but doesn't seem to be the case with the Rison 7 processor moving on we see the exact same issue in testing we shut off the Tomb Raider here the Rison 7 1700 is seen limiting performance to a III fps on average Atari P and as a result performance is much the same at 1440p meanwhile the 2600 X limited performance to around 87 fps in this minute was roughly 5% faster frame rates when testing with monster hunter world were much the same the 2600 X did offer a small performance boost but overall the experience was much the same using either CPU strange Brigade is also another one of those tiles that isn't particularly CPU demanding and it's a good example of how things will look I suppose in a typical game or when your GPU bound Star Wars Battlefront 2 is demanding on both the CPU and GPU but when you've got 12 or more threads to play with the CPU side of things really isn't that much of an issue that being the case there really wasn't much difference between the 2600 X and 1700 then finally we have the division - and here we see similar performance using either CPU so again not too much to report here other than the fact that you will receive a similar gaming experience for the 2600 X or 1700 in this title ok so I think it's fair to say at the Rison 520 600 X and risin 7 1700 are pretty similar in terms of gaming performance when we did see a difference it was the 2600 X that was faster in every single instance usually though it was only faster by a 5 to 10% margin and I feel most gamers probably won't notice the difference still if you only intend on gaming then I feel the 2600 is the better CPU to get are you going to benefit more from the lower latency memory also the higher clocked memory and the improvements to all the cache in the CPU again latency improvements the r7 1700 does have two extra cores of course but I don't think they're going to prove useful in gaming anytime soon for the vast majority of games so I feel like for the life of these CPUs the 2600 acts just will be the better gamer however like I said at the start of the video if you can put those extra two cores to work than the Rison 7 1700 is going to become a lot more attractive and that said it isn't massively faster as it will require some tinkering in a BIOS to really pull a noticeably ahead of a stock 2600 ex for those of you not interested in overclocking the r7 1700 is just 4% faster out of the box in our blender tests so for content creators the 2600 X might actually prove to be the better choice as its clock speed advantage and lower latency memory will make it better for editing even when talking rendering tasks so the Rison 7 1700 was just 6% faster as seen here in corona so it's not the 2600 X is getting blown out of the water despite only having half-a-dozen cause and finally if you require further proof then here are some Cinebench r15 results here the 1700 was just 3% faster when comparing the multi-threaded performance however it is important to note that for single threaded I suppose even lightly threaded workloads the 1700 will be around 15% slower and this was often seen in our gaming benchmarks you might have noticed the Rison 7 1800 X results in the previous few application graphs and it was up to 20% faster than the 2600 X so that is certainly achievable with the r7 1700 through a bit of overclocking the 1700 does have quite a bit of overclocking Headroom of course I am generalizing a bit here if you do get a dud chip than the overclocking Headroom may not be great but based on my own purchase history and I have bought quite a few of these chips over the last year or so now your chances of getting a dud I would say a very slim however if you're not interested in overclocking and you have your choice of either CPU at the same price or within $20 of one another I'd get the rise in 520 600 X every time the Zen plus refinement certainly weren't game-changing but the latency improvements do help overall it just makes the 2600 X feel a bit snappier and frankly though you really can't go wrong either way there's no bad option here there's no wrong choice and I feel for quite a few of you passing up an eight-core 16 thread CPU for just a hundred and six dollars u.s. that one's not going to be easy also is then to just around the corner it's a bit of a difficult choice for those desperate to upgrade or build a new computer do you hold that a bit longer or do you just snap up one of these dirt-cheap first or second generation processors now if it was me and I could wait obviously I would wait till the point where the reviews come out on the rise and 3,000 chips and then I'll reevaluate the options then but if for whatever reason you simply can't wait then yeah there's certainly some great options available right now and that is gonna do it for this one if you did enjoy the video be sure the like button for us so you can subscribe for more content and if you appreciate the work we 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