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welcome back to harbor unboxed okay so along with the half a dozen use in two based third-generation Verizon processors AMD has also released an additional two rise in 3000 series parts and they're using as n+ architecture though you would be forgiven if you miss them I'm of course talking about the new ap use the Rison 332 G and Verizon 530 400 G to date AMD's yet to sample these parts but as we did with the risin 5 3600 rather than sit around waiting for AM D to provide the goods we went out and bought up with the help of our patreon members so the 3500 G has been sitting on my desk for over a week now so I thought it was a bad time I got around to testing it we are yet to purchase a 3200 G so this one will just be a look at the flagship APU when compared to previous models the upgrades are pretty straightforward because AMD is using these n+ architecture these parts are manufactured using the 12 nanometer process which offers improved clock speeds and thermals also helping with thermals is an upgraded box cooler at least for the 3,400 G which now gets the Wraith spire and this is a 95 watt cooler the 3200 G still keeps cool with the base model Wraith stealth the 3400 G also does away with the thermal paste interface material this means it's soldered just like the big boy chips the CPU cores have been overcooked by 8% from 3.9 gigahertz to 4.2 years while the vaguer 11 graphics engine comes clocked at 1.4 gigahertz and that's a 12% boost from the previous model the final improvement AMD's made has been to the all-important price whereas the 2400 G sported a $170 u.s. MSRP the 3400 G starts at just 150 dollars u.s. now for testing I'm using the MSI be 450 Carbon gaming with 16 gigabytes of G skills flex ddr4 3200 memory I won't be covering these ap use from every single angle like I did for the 2200 gene 2400 G as most of the information such as memory scaling is still relevant from our original testing so if you're after that kind of information then please check out our original coverage for now I just want to see what difference there is between the 34 and 2400 G so let's jump into the benchmarks to find out first up we have Sinha benches are twenty multi core tests and here the 3400 G provided a nine percent performance uplift from the previous 2400 G model largely due to that 8 percent increase in clock speed and partly due to the improved IPC performance of these n plus architecture it's also worth noting that the r5 3600 is 81 percent faster in this test while only costing 33% more though it does of course like integrated graphics and we'll talk more about that later on the video we also see a rather large 10 percent improvement in single core performance and again this is due to not just the increase in clock speed ball so the improvements made by these n+ architecture this place the 3400 G on par with the r5 2,600 X and this time we see at the r5 3600 was just 15% faster as it's not able to utilize those extra cores in this test memory bandwidth performance is much the same as n+ did improve memory latency but as you can see in terms of memory bandwidth both sustained a transfer speed of 36 gigabytes per second the 3400 G was 10% faster in the 2400 G in these seven zip compression tests and while that is a decent little performance bump in a world where 6 core processors now commonplace it doesn't look that impressive AMD's SMT implementation is very efficient when it comes to decompression work in 7-zip and as a result of 3400 G did beat the core i7 7700 K and wasn't a great deal slower than the 6 core 6 thread 9600 K I've tested premier using two configurations one with the GeForce r-tx 2080 TI the standard graphics card used for all our CPU testing and then one using the integrated value 11 graphics for GPU acceleration with a highly capable discrete graphics card the 3400 G is actually very impressive in this test completing the render in just 629 seconds however with a discrete graphics card it took 1762 seconds and that's not so great so if you were going to use this processor for video editing and encoding buying an entry-level graphics card would be the way to go or better yet just get the r5 3600 and pair that with an entry-level graphics card the 3400 G was just 4 percent faster than 400g in the corona benchmark and while that made both much faster than the core i5 7600 k they were slower than everything else similar margins are seen in the blender open data benchmark this time the 3400 G off at a 6% performance boost over the 2400 G and both trailed the 7700 K when it comes to power consumption the 3400 G still sips power pushing total system consumption just 10% higher than that of the 2400 G and this meant system usage was 10% lower than what we saw with these 7600 K moving on to operating temperatures and here we see when running the blender stress test that the 3400 G peaked at just 58 degrees using the Wraith spire box cooler out of the box it sustained an operating frequency of three thousand nine hundred fifty megahertz and when enabling PBO Plus Auto see in their eyes and master software that frequency didn't change then when testing with f1 2019 the 3400 G ran much cooler despite the Vega 11 graphics now being in use here the CPU peaked at just 45 degrees and ran at 4025 megahertz then enabling PBO Plus Auto OC pushed the operating temperature up to 48 degrees and this time we did get an extra 100 megahertz bump in the operating frequency before jumping into the integrated GPU testing let's just quickly see how the 3400 G stacks up against the other CPUs when comparing performance with out a GPU limitation here we see at 1080p it's faster than the core i5 7600 okay and not a great deal slower than the 6 core 12 thread r5 1600 moreover it provided an 11% boost over the 2400 G the 3400 G is even more competitive at 1440p situating itself between the r5 1600 and 1600 X so not bad for a budget processor performance in battlefield 5 was also respectable for example the 3400 G mimics the 1% low performance of the core i7 77 ok while the average was only slightly down the r5 1600 this time the 3400 year was up to 10% faster than the 2400 G we find a similar story when testing with the division 2 here the 3400 G of has a 7% performance increase over the 2400 G while trailing there are 5 1600 by a 10% margin the 3400 G is still 8 percent faster than the 2400 G at 14 40p but now it is able to close in on the 1% low performance of the r5 1600 and 1600 X now this is a pretty impressive result NAT first you might think the 17% performance uplift over the 2400 G is a mistake but I assure you it's not the improved cache and memory latency of the Zen plus architecture gives the 3400 G a big advantage in farcry new don so much so that it's now able to match the r5 1600 X the merchant does come down a little at 1440p but even so the 3400 G was still 12% faster than the 2400 G and once again managed to match the r5 1600 X ok so now it's time for some Vega 11 I GPU testing and here we see a mere 5 percent improvement in performance over the 2400 G certainly nothing to get excited over that said the good news being that the game was highly playable at 1080p pushing well over 60 FPS at all times next that we have Rainbow six siege and here the 3400 G was up to 8 percent faster but again both AP use performed very well rendering over 60 FPS at all times even at 1080p of course we're using the lowest possible quality preset but this is of course integrated graphics after all so that is very impressive fortnight also plays well at tiny P but unfortunately the 3400 G offered no real performance gains over the older 2,400 G in this title we also see a similar thing in Far Cry nude on despite the CPU side of the 3400 G being much more punchy in this title the vaguer 11 graphics with its small overclock don't help here much we also see next to no difference in strange Brigade the 3400 G provided a few extra frames but that was it once again a similar story is seen when testing with f1 2019 the 3400 G is only good for a few extra frames but at least the game was playable even at 1080p now this is very interesting World of Tanks sees a 14% performance improvement when upgrading to the 3400 G this is a title that benefits from these n+ improvements but also isn't necessarily GPU bound when using the integrated graphics so it's a rare situation where the improved CPU performance can be utilized in game with the Vega 11 graphics when AMD released the first Zen based APIs back in February last year it really wasn't exciting time for those products to hit shelves and that was because at the time graphics card pricing was just crazy was heavily inflated and that was of course due to the cryptocurrency mining hell even if you were prepared to spend the three to four times more than you should have on a graphics card the shelves were completely empty so buying one it was near an impossible the 2400 G and 2200 G gave desperate gamers on a budget and alternative these apos let you play games now all beat with low quality visuals but they gave you the ability to play now and then upgrade to a discreet graphics card later on once pricing settled down today though we have no such issue the second hand graphics card market is thriving and you can buy a brand new radio rx 570 for as little as a hundred and thirty dollars us and it will enable a vastly superior gaming experience it's really like comparing chalk and cheese still the APU option is cheap for those buying new hardware the Rison 530 400g costs all of a hundred and fifty dollars us having said that though I feel like in today's market it is a bit of a niche product and I realize AP yous are a bit niche to begin with but I feel like that's even more true of the 3400 G given what you can buy for not much more for example if your primary interest is gaming arisin 3 1200 for $65 new with an IR x5 70 for $130 or a secondhand model for $60 that's a significantly better gaming combo new it costs just 30% more and you'll see over 200% more performance but if you're willing to shop secondhand on the graphics card if the combo will be cheaper than just buying the 3400 G also for heavy productivity work the 3400 G isn't really a cost-effective option either rather you're better off just getting a rise in five sixteen hundred four hundred and five dollars and then pair that with a dirt cheap discrete graphics card you better get something for the $45 that's left over if all you want is a basic PC for office type work then the 3400 G is a suitable choice likewise if you're building a compact home theater PC and gaming isn't the focus then again the 3400 G is quite a nice option beyond that though you really are better off with the alternatives I just spoke of and even then you can't really ignore the 2400 G because right now that can be had for $100 and given that the 3400 G was never 50% faster I myself would probably just go out and get a 2400 G and then pocket the $50 save that and put it towards a better graphics card in the future if gaming is your focus and that is going to do it for this one like I said not a full-blown top-down coverage of these new ap used like we did originally we looked at how they perform on different motherboards how memory scaling works I didn't even know there was so many tests I can't recall them all but yeah we're not going to do that for this one it was really just to see how much better the 3400 G is compared to the 2400 gene I think we've we've done that so yeah not too much more to say perhaps down the track we'll do some updated testing with the latest updated drivers to see how the 3400 G handles itself in a wide range of games definitely something we could do but yeah right now we have a lot of other content that we want to cover such as The Horizon 730 800 X tons of you guys are requesting that I've ordered one it's making its way to me slowly so I'll test that when it comes i've also purchased a horizon 530 600 x thanks to our lovely patreon supporters we've been we've spent well over a thousand dollars on these new horizon processes because we don't want to wait for AMD to sample them whenever that may be so yeah 3600 X versus 3600 that'll be coming soon to see if it's worth spending extra money 3800 x versus 3700 x that's also coming and yeah we may also buy the 3,200 G and do some testing with that as well anyway plenty of testing to do so I better wrap this up and get on with it if you enjoyed the video please hit the like button subscribe for more content and if you 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