Gadgetory

hey guys welcome back to harbor unboxed today I have an update for you regarding AMD's upcoming rising 5 CPUs that they are announcing well right now there are just basic details given in this press release and I have put a few questions to AMD but they weren't keen to answer all of them I assume they want to keep some things a secret for when the rise in 5 CPUs are officially launched therefore it looks like today and be really just announcing the actual risin 5 models so the model names and their out-of-the-box specifications as well as the all-important pricing so right away AMD made it clear that the rise in 5 series will be targeting the sub $300 u.s. cpu market so no surprises there they want to explain that twice as many people purchase CPUs within this price range and again that's not really surprising AMD believes that rise in 5 will shake up this market segment though by offering a better price to performance ratio than their competitor for gamers and content creators and I have to say I agree with them because risin 5 will feature both 6 core and 4 core parts featuring SMT support sitting at the head of the rise and 5 family will be the 1600 X which boasts 6 cores and 12 threads the same configuration is Intel's Core i7 6800 K it will operate at a base clock speed of 3.6 gigahertz and a boost clock of 4 gigahertz of course like all rise and see if you use its unlocked though given what we've seen from risin 7 I don't imagine you about a squeeze too much more out of this processor AMD says that the 1600 X will be almost 70% faster than the core i5 7600 K when measuring multi-threaded performance in Cinebench though that's not totally surprising as it does have two more physical cores plus those six threads along with this 1600 X there will be a second 6 core part known simply as the 1600 basically the 1600 comes clocked 400 megahertz lower but is again a completely unlocked part so that shouldn't really matter as is the case with the 1700 X and 1700 it's likely that the 1600 will be a much better buy than the 1600 X though where is less of a price gap between these two parts when compared to the seven models but I'll get to that shortly then we have the four core parts which also support eight threads the rise in six 1500 X and 1400 interestingly out of the box these parts are clocked even lower the 1500 X operates at a base clock of 3.5 gigahertz with a boost clock of 3.7 gigahertz meanwhile the 1400 runs at just 3 point 2 gigahertz and will only boost as high as 3.4 you hurt out of the box of course once again though these are both unlocked parts so hopefully they will be able to run on all cores at at least 4 gigahertz for those wondering the 1500 X and 1600 will ship with the Wraith spire cooler while the 1400 comes with the smaller Wraith stealth cooler now for pricing the 1600 X comes in at 250 dollars u.s. which prices it alongside the core i5 7600 K that said we suspect that you will be better off buying the standard 1600 which cost $30 less at 220 dollars those wanting to spend less than $200 have the 1500 X 190 dollars and the 1400 at 170 dollars these quad-core parts are coming up against the locked core i5s as well as the more expensive core i3 s such as the unlocked 7350 k which costs 170 dollars and we know that to be fairly terrible value so without even testing we know that the Rison v 1400 already has Intel's entire cable 8 core i3 range begging for mercy while the locked core i5 models will be trembling in the corner try not to draw any attention so the 1400 really is going to be the superstar here and if it can hit at least 4 gigahertz on all cores then I think it's safe to say this is going to be 2017 s best value sub $200 CPU and tool rise in three lands in the second half of the year Intel's budget hero the pentium g 4560 will remain safe and well in command of the sub $100 price point right so that pretty much covers everything in the press deck what AMD didn't cover though is how the CCX units within the horizon 5 processors will be configured and also the cash amount so how that configuration will impact how much level 3 cache in particular the cpus have on offer they did confirm though when I asked if the five CPUs were physically the same as the Rison seven with just certain cause / threads disabled and they said that yes that is the case so that means that the Rison five processes will have to CCX units under the hood just as the Rison 7 models do what isn't clear right now is how they will be configured perhaps someone else managed to get this information out of AMD but at this point I haven't actually been able to get any solid information on how the CPUs will be configured for now I'm guessing that the six core parts will feature one core disabled in each CCX rather than one fully enabled CCX with a second featuring to cause enabled that said the latter option might be better for gaming though it would be a little odd for the level 3 cache speaking of cache in this scenario would see the six core parts still equipped with a total of 16 megabytes of level 3 moving to the quad-core parts it makes sense that AMD simply shuts off an entire cc X and this would be the optimal solution for gaming I can't imagine that would keep both CCX units enabled with just two cores enabled in each CC X that would see the quad core parts retain the full 16 megabyte level 3 cache but the crosstalk between CC X units would likely hurt gaming performance so in the end I see the horizon 5 quad core supporting an 8 mega byte level 3 cache half that of the 6 core and 8 core parts it's also still not clear whether or not the disabled cause and the rise and 5 parts will be physically disabled from the CX or if they simply turned off in the microcode or the bios this is always exciting stuff for enthusiasts as it means in the future once yields improve to the point where bidding is more for product segmentation rather than physical defects it could be possible to buy a 6 core or even the full core part and enable up to 8 cores with a little bit of tinkering just imagine 1,800 X Performance for $700 us yeah I know I'm dreaming and I'm just teasing you guys in the process so I'm gonna stop so enough speculating enough dreaming it shouldn't be too long now till I have probably all 4 rise in 5 CPUs in hand and I can show you guys exactly what they're all about so with that I'm going to get back to benchmarking horizon 7 there's still plenty of work to be done on that front I'm actually working on right now and hopefully if I can work laid enough tonight I'll be able to wrap it up and get the video out tomorrow afternoon a Windows 7 vs. Windows 10 rise in gaming performance comparison because it's a bit of a hot topic now and a lot of people are suggesting that Windows 7 gaming performance with horizon is a lot better than Windows 10 so I thought I'd look into that test quite a few games and try and get to the bottom of it so that should be pretty interesting and then next week I'm also on the sidelines working on another video which will be tight and XP SLI testing at 4k comparing horizon to some sort of Intel system whether it's the 7700 K or 69 or okay or both we'll see how much time I get to do that but it'll be at least one of them oh yeah that should be pretty interesting to see how the Titan XP cards stale on both platforms and the Titan XP well they're still ridiculous or unrealistic cards because that $1200 u.s. price tag the performance they produce now is more realistic you know you know it's more obtainable now because we have the 1080p i/o cards which are much cheaper though at $1,400 u.s. for the pair they're still not that wallet-friendly but I'm sure to be guys looking at buying them anyway and it gives us an indication of how 4k gaming performance in the future might look on these platforms with more powerful graphics cards but that's a whole nother thing because games can be better optimized for eyes and in performance could change but look at the here and now I'm rambling anyway I'm gonna wrap this up before I keep going on because there are a lot more cool things that I could talk about that are upcoming on the channel but you'll see those in due time anyway that's all for now I'm your host Steve thanks for watching I hope to catch you guys again real soon real soon real soon