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welcome back to harbor unbox today I finally have that epic gaming battle between the risin 720 700 X and core i7 87 okay now this has been one that many of you have been requesting I'm sure there's point neither CP really needs an introduction both flagship mainstream desktop parts that come at a similar asking price but I will discuss the value aspect of this comparison towards the end of the video in a moment we will talk about the test system setup and all the test conditions but before that a quick word from today's video sponsor Corsair for the most mesmerizing RGB memory on the market check out Corsairs new Vengeance RGB pro series using carefully screened ICS Corsair ensures maximum performance with overclocked succeeding ddr4 4600 speeds so if you want to take your gaming systems performance and looks to the next level be sure to check out course as vengeance RGB Pro Series link is in the video description ok so the core i7 8700 K rig features the gigabytes and 370 horas gaming 7 with 16 gigabytes of ddr4 3400 Samsung video memory using the stilts timings the CPU has been overclocked to 5 gigahertz and cooling at that frequency is the corsair hydro series h 100 i v2 inside the corsair crystal 570 X then for the horizon 720 700 X rig we have the Isuzu ROG crosshair 7 hero with 16 gigabytes of ddr4 3400 Samsung video memory again using the stilts timings the 2700 X has been overclocked to 4.2 gigahertz and this time we're using the courser hydra h 150 i pro inside the corsair crystal 570 X for testing we have 35 games on the menu at each game has been tested at 720p 1080p and 1440p using the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and once again going with our new format for this video since pretty much everyone seemed to prefer it in the previous video when I compared the rx 518 GTX 1060 and this means I'll be discussing eight of the more interesting tiles and then jumping to the performance breakdown for all 35 games tested for those you who want to examine all the results more closely there will be a link to a post on our patreon account with all the details having said all that let's get to the results first up we have the battlefield 1 results to discuss and here we see a fairly even fight though at times it is advantage Intel at the low 720p resolution the 87 hurricane was up to 12% faster as the rise in CPU seemed to cap out at just 116 fps for the 1% lower result moving to 1080p we find similar margins for the frame time performance here Intel was 11% faster that said it was interesting to see the 2700 X close up on the 8700 ok for the average frame rate typically it's the average frame rate where Intel does seem to pull away then finally at 1440p we're primarily GPU bound here even with the GTX 280 I and here the 8700 K and 2700 X deliver and identical experience moving on to Far Cry 5 and here we see the 8700 K is up to 15% faster at 720p though just 8% faster for the frame time result and it's the exact same story at 1080p then as we increase the resolution to 1440p the 8700 K is now up to just 6% faster and then just 2% when comparing the frame time performance needless to say at 4k you'd be completely GPU limited so both CPUs would deliver the exact same result next up we have a Rainbow six siege and here the 87 ROK was 12% faster at 720p for the 1% low result and 9% faster for the average frame rate the margin erodes away almost completely at 1080p here the core i7 processor was just 5% faster then at 1440p we see identical performance with both CPUs enabling extreme performance included juda popular demand is full at night and here we find the 8700 ok enjoying a 10 to 14 percent performance advantage at 720p the intel cpu remains 14% faster for the frame time performance at 1080p but just 4% faster for the average frame rate then at 1440p the 2700 X actually edges ahead granted the frame time performance is identical but it was 3% faster for the average framerate here we see a massive discrepancy in the csgo benchmark between the frame time and average framerate performance and this is mostly down to the fact that this benchmark is very diverse in what is seen throughout the benchmark scene depending on the resolution the 8700 a is between 11 and 24 percent faster than the 2,700 X Wing comparing the one percent low performance however when it comes to the average frame rate the 8700 K is between 33 and 52% fast which are obviously very significant margins the only saving grace here for the Rison 7 CPU is the fact that it a ver äj-- over 500 FPS at all times that's probably enough for even your most pro of pro players I've heard that the rise in CPUs were having a rec fest with Intel's coffee-like CPUs in the new vehicular combat racing turtle rec fest turns out not so much at least based on our overclocked results here the 80 seminary case smashed the Rison 7 processor at 720p and 1080p delivering up to 29% more performance the damage is somewhat mitigated at 1440p thanks to a GPU bottleneck and with well over 60 FPS at all times it has to be said the experience while still great using either CPU player knowns battlegrounds has never been kind to AMD however has to be said so not surprising that we find the core i7 processor enjoying a 17% performance advantage at 720p that margin though is slightly reduced to 15% at 1080p and then it is entirely eliminated at 1440p once we run into a heavy GPU bottleneck the last game we're going to look closely at is vermintide 2 and this total does play well with AMD hardware that said it plays even better with the core i7 87 or EK it has to be said that the performance was most impressive using either CPU despite the fact that the a7 ok pushed up to 26% more frames at 720p and up to 20% more at 1080p once we hit 1440p though we're limited by the gtx 1080i so performance was much the same okay so based on what we've just seen in the at game sample it's pretty clear the low resolutions the core i7 8700 K is king but has to be said not by an overly convincing margin then of course by the time that we hit the 1440p resolution we start to run into a bit of a GPU bottleneck there and both CPUs are able to maximize what the GTX 1080 Ti is capable of having said all that let's break down the data further and compare all 35 games in one single graph first up we have these 720p results and the standout here or the outlier if you will is see us go where the 8700 K was 52% faster the 8,700 case shouldn't be that much faster it's overclocked just 19% higher and it only has a very very small IPC advantage we're talking a few percent at most the Rison v 2600 compared well to the lower clocked core i5 8400 and csgo but the faster memory and higher clock speeds of the 87 are okay take this to the next level for those of you that are a bit wild that I've included this title in my 35 game bundle you really need not stress about it removing csgo changes the margin by a single percent without at the 87 okay is 12% faster at 720p so as you can see with the GPU limits mostly removed the 8700 K clocked at five hits isn't a great deal faster than the horizon 720 700 X it's certainly faster but doesn't blow the AMD processor away interestingly if we look solely at the frame time performance we find similar margins here the 87 okay was 12% faster on average that said removing Total War saga does drop the margin down to 10% and we can see that in 18 of the titles tested the 8700 K was only faster by up to a 10% margin in fact we do see a few titles where the 87 or okay was only able to match the 2,700 X and 1 being dirt 4 where it was actually slower now at 1080p the margin starts to closer and on averaged 87 hurricane was just 9 percent faster and in well over half the titles tested the margin was less than 10% the only games to show massive performance deficits included csgo rec fest Starcraft 2 and Far Cry primal so avoid those titles of you want to show AMD in the best possible light doing so drops our game count to 31 and the margin down to just six percent on average here we see that we're looking at the frame time performance that the Rison 720 700 X looks even more competitive I see the 8700 was just 9% faster on average the only really poor result here for AMD is Total War saga I recently released tunnel that might have a few bugs that need going over with the old iron for those wondering removing that title drops the margin to just 7% overall in favor of the 8700 K then finally at 1440p the 8700 K was just 4% faster and average and removing older titles where rising got served such as csgo and Starcraft 2 that only reduces the margin by a percent of course we are mostly GPU limited at this resolution but what it means is in the here-and-now there really is very little difference between these two CPUs for gamers we also see a 4% margin when comparing frame time performance though I should point out the 87 or K was slower and a handful of tiles while performance was identical in five of them before wrapping things up here's a few quick notes on the power consumption figures that I observed while testing for the most part the rise in 720 700 X system pulled between 380 and 410 Ott's from the wall again that's when gaming while the core i7 8700 K system drew between 420 and 444 watts so that means that the Intel system did consume about seven to ten percent more power which isn't really that bad given that it did deliver around nine percent more performance on average at 1080p okay so we've established at the 8700 K is hands-down faster than the 2700 X when it comes to gaming no real shocker there but it has to be said that it's not a great deal faster realistically at 1080p with a beastly graphics card you're looking to gain up to say 15% that would certainly be more of the high and the typical high-end but we often saw a gains of 10% or less so if you're after a no compromise gaming CPU the 87 ROK is clearly it and we amongst many others have said so quite a few times in the past but what if you want a high-end CPU capable of strong gaming performance and want to save as much money as possible or in that situation is one of these options better than the other well in terms of pricing they are very similar in fact you could say overall the system and even the platform costs are much the same the AMD setup might save you $20 making a few percent cheaper and that cost shrinks to less than a percent for those building a high-end gaming rig worth around $2,000 u.s. if you're not doing any serious overclocking that AMD will come out on top as the 2700 X comes with a decent box cooler well the 87 hurricane comes with nothing meaning is Stan to save around $30 u.s. on a basic tower style air cooler but still again it's going to save you very little on a high-end system so one of the reasons why someone might be better off buying the risin 7 at 2700 X system if you're not just purely gaming and you happen to run some core heavy applications from time to time then the 2700 X might be a better choice as it is better under core heavy workloads but let's just stick to the strictly gaming narrative for the moment and you know throw in a bit of general usage which is 8700 K is better at and that also means that we're not going to pretend that every second gamer is a streamer because let's be honest they're not that being the case the 2,700 X or rather the rise and platform still has one advantage and that is future support AMD will continue to release new processes that support existing motherboards even so I'm not going to pretend like this really matters at the high end because I think it's fair to say ultimately it probably doesn't it is true that X 470 motherboards will support future cpu generations while these n 370 boards are likely at the end of the road with nowhere to go ok so let's be realistic about this if you're buying a core i7 87 or okay or Rison 720 700 X today when do you honestly imagine you'll be looking at upgrading that CPU and potentially the platform in a year's time I doubt a year maybe two years at the earliest but it's probably gonna be more like three I think most of you would probably wait threes before upgrading a high-end system but I could be wrong but anyway if it's three years that you're going to be upgrading then you're probably going to want to get a new motherboard anyway in that time and given that you potentially only invested 150 u.s. in 2018 on your motherboard and that's based on my hypothetical system costs that we just did are saving that money on a future upgrade well that would be nice it's not really going to make a huge difference either I remember we are talking about high-end systems here and not sort of the budget bangers where every last dollar counts so I'll admit I'm a bit torn here on which way to go they're both very appealing so I guess it is somewhat of a high-class problem personally though I don't feel that for gaming and we're talking about exclusively gaming here that the extra - cause of the 2700 X is gonna get it ahead of the 87 or okay in the next few years so the allure of that glorious four half gigahertz overclock would probably suck me in again a really tough choice here but purely for gaming I get the core i7 8700 K that being said they'll let me know which CP you choose and why as always I look forward to discussing this with you in the comment section below and that is gonna do it for this one if you did enjoy the video be sure to hit the like button subscribe for more content you've appreciate the work we do in our box then consider supporting us on patreon you can get access to our discord and chat to us at any time there and we do a monthly live stream which is a bit of fun and we chat to all you guys in that anyway as always thank you for watching I am your host Steve and I will see you again next time