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welcome back to harbor unboxed today's video is a follow-up to that heavily requested second-generation rise an IPC comparison though we made a few weeks ago when I compared the horizon 5 2600 X to the core i7 80s 700 K now these are 6 core 12 thread CPUs and for that test they were locked at 4 gigahertz so it's more of a for science type test and that it is your typical a sort of buying advise and the idea there is to remove the core and memory clock speeds from the equation to see how the different architectures stack up before we get to that though this video has been sponsored by weeks the website building service that combines advanced technology with beautiful designs to create your perfect website there are tons of professional solutions available through wix's website building tools including Wix code which is an impressive set of developer tools that allow you to create advanced web applications with less hassle with Wix code you can create content rich websites add custom 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performance however not all Intel CPUs are created equally and their high-end desktop parts using the sky like X architecture are very different to the coffee-like core i7 processor that was featured in the previous video that being the case many of you have asked me to go back and recreate the IPC comparison but this time with ace like X processor included so that's what I've done once again to see how much headway AMD's made here we're going to neutralize as many variables as we can while also keeping things as realistic as possible the first and most obvious step is to remove the core frequency from the equation and to do so we've locked all CPU cores at 4 gigahertz any type of boost technology has also been disabled the cause cannot go past 4 gigahertz and all course are locked at 4 gigahertz the second generation rise in CPUs have been tested on the asrock x4 70 Taichi ultimate and the coffee-like CPUs on the edge rocks at 370 Taichi both configurations use the same g.skill flex ddr4 3,200 memory using the extreme memory profile and the same MSI GTX 10 ADC a gaming extra was used for all test systems and finally for those of you wondering no I haven't fine-tuned the horizons sub memory timings for this test I feel like that would have been a bit misleading perhaps that's something we can do in another video also please note and I can't stress this enough this is purely for a science type benchmark and is in no way buying advice the Intel CPUs do have a clock speed advantage there's no getting away from that and the real-world performance please refer to our recent rise in 5 2,600 2,600 X and 2,700 X reviews for this test I've included results for the Intel Core i7 87 ok 78 20x and 7800 X along with the risin 7 2,700 X 2600 X 1800 X and 1600 X now the 1600 X 2600 X 7800 X and 8700 K all have the same CPU resources so there's 6 core with 12 threads the 1800 X 2,700 X and 7800 X that's a lot of X's all have an advantage being that they are eight core 16 thread CPUs so they will be compared to one another having said all that let's jump into the results first up we have sustained memory bandwidth performance and here we see that despite using the same G school flare X ddr4 3,200 memory the performance does vary quite a bit from one platform to another although the core i7 87 under K and rise in processors feature dual channel memory controllers the rise and cpus do enjoy almost a 20 sent boost in memory bandwidth however the sky like X core i7 7800 X and 78 20x take advantage of quad channel memory and as a result have at least 33% more bandwidth to play with when compared to the rise in CPUs moving on to the center bench r15 results and here we see that despite offering a greatest single thread score the core i7 78 20x was actually slower than even the 1800 X for the multi-threaded result and this points to AMD's implementation of SMT as being more efficient than the HT technology used by Intel in this clock for clock comparison the 2700 X again outscored the 78 20x by 6 percent margin it was a similar story when looking at these six core CPUs here the 7800 X match the single thread performance of the 8700 K but loses out for the multi-threaded test then while it beat the rise in cpus by a sizable margin for the single thread test it was 6% slower than the 2600 X for the multi-threaded test next up we have the PC mark of video editing results and here the 8 core CPUs all delivered similar results when matched clock for clock the 78 20x did just manage to edge out the 2700 X but we're really talking about margin of error stuff here the same is also true for the 6 core CPU comparison though here the 1600 X does lag a bit behind interestingly the rice and CPUs do extremely well in a PC mark 10 gaming physics test and a pieces though SMT technology is being very well utilized here the 2700 X was 6% fast and the 78 20x while the 2600 X was 9% faster than the 7800 X 7-zip is an interesting program to benchmark IPC performance with as the use of simultaneous multi-threading behaves differently on the intel and AMD cpus intel's hyper threading appears to be just as efficient for compression work as it is decompression and this gives them an advantage for the compression test AMD's SMT technology on the other hand is amazing at decompression but quite poor compression that said though since most people extract archives far more often than create them this is a decent performance trade-off however as I alluded to earlier what it does do is make comparing IPC performance very difficult I really wish I had taken the time to run this test again with simultaneous multi-threading disabled on both the AMD Intel CPUs I think those results would have been quite interesting here we see when testing with Excel that the eight core isin CPUs are I would have beat the 78 20x and complete the workload six percent faster meanwhile the 2600 X was five percent faster than the 7800 X and even the old 1600 X was still a fraction quicker we've seen in the past that I a hand brake workload prefers Intel CPUs and as a result these skylake X CPUs were able to beat these second gen Rison processors by a convincing margin in this test the 7820 X for example was 11 percent faster than 2,700 X and the same margin was seen when comparing the 700 X and 2600 X then moving on we have the corona benchmark and we see much more competitive results here here the 2,700 X and 78 20x delivered these same performance while the 2600 X was a smidgen quicker than the 7800 X performance was again competitive in blender though this time the Intel CPUs did have a slight performance advantage we're talking just 5% or less here so again only a very slight advantage when matched clock for clock at 4 gigahertz moving on to the v-ray benchmark and here we see again very competitive results basically identical performance when comparing these skylake X and second gen rise and processors alright so let's move on to some gaming benchmarks and here I expect to see some more mixture results given what we've seen in the past when testing scale like X it has to be said though that Intel does get off to a flying start with ashes of the singularity delivering strong performance with both their 6 and 8 core models as both were 10% faster and the competing second generation horizon parts moving on though we find some interesting results with assassin's creed origins using the ultra quality preset although the 2,700 x edged ahead of the 78 20x the 2600 x was a good bit slower than the 7800 x introducing the higher quality settings does reduce the performance deficit between the six core models and now we're seeing very similar frame time performance moving on to battlefield one and here we have some very interesting results for whatever reason the second gen Rison processors and even the first generation models had no trouble beating the sky like X competition the 2,700 X was eight percent faster than 78 20x for the average frame rate and 12 percent for the frame time result so seriously strong showing for AMD his title those margins grew further once we reduced the GPU bottleneck with the medium quality settings and here the 2700 X was 11% fast in the 78 20x for the average frame rate and 13% faster for the 1% low result finally I compared these CPUs clock for clock in Far Cry 5 and again another big win for AMD here despite using the ultra quality preset at 1080p the 2,700 X was up to 11 percent faster than 78 20x and the 2600 X was up to 10% faster than these 7800 X even the first gen parts were able to match the sky like xcp use when match clock for clock at full gigahertz ok so in the previous IPC comparison which focused on the coffee lake and second generalize and processors I noted a few reasons for why intel's mainstream cpu series enjoys big gains in most of the gaming titles in short i believe this is down to the quarter core latency and intel's ring bus is just extremely efficient however the mesh interconnect used by the sky like ex and modern Intel Xeon server processes isn't nearly as impressive at least with these lower core count CPUs when it came to gaming performance we saw very mixed results though overall AMD came out on top for the small sample of games tested of course this is a 4 gigahertz clock for clock comparison and the average 7800 X should be good 4.6 gigahertz while the arisin 520 600 X is more limited hitting around 4.2 4.3 here it's on all cause that's up to a 10 percent frequency advantage for the sky like xcp under normal conditions so that being the case it would be very interesting to compare these two CPUs in a wide range of games you know say more than 30 games anyway getting back to IPC performance it's quite clear the second generalising cpus are at a disadvantage when compared to the sky like X CPUs even when it comes to games then of course we have application performance which was mighty competitive here it was rare for a workload to heavily favor a particular CPU architecture and overall performance was very much the same this then suggests that Amy's upcoming second generation rise and thread Ripper CPUs are going to give Intel a seriously hard time at the high end if they weren't already oh it's so good to have some real competition back in the CPU space and that is going to do it for this one if you did enjoy the video be sure to the like button for more content you appreciate the work we do here in our box then consider supporting us on patreon the link for our patreon account is in the video description and you will gain access to our discord chat where you can ask tim and i whatever you want directly and we'll answer that and you can also watch our monthly live stream and ask whatever questions you want there as well so if you sign up to our patron basically you can just do a lot of question asking anyway that's gonna do it for this one I'm your host Steve and I'll see you next time