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Unboxing Boxes #55: $250 X399 Board, New X299 Boards, Aorus 2070 & 2080 Xtreme & More

2018-12-11
welcome back to harbor unboxed for another episode of unboxing boxes it is at that time of the month where we unbox some boxes and if you're lucky we unbox those boxes so kind of a double unboxing there though in the case of this one it's just unbutton gigabyte what are you doing I'm gonna have to I get into my contact Alex because he's not really playing the unboxing box's game that well with these bubble wrap here but anyway it's um very heavy motherboard this one so came to check it out oh it's definitely a motherboard so we will get into it and take a look and for those of you who aren't aware of what unboxing boxes is it's just like I said an episode that we do about once a month where we show you guys the products that we have on hand or the products that are coming in sort of as we get them so that some of these boxes have been sitting around for a few weeks now waiting for me to get to them so rather than just open them a chuckle on the test bed and do whatever I going to do with it I show you guys the products as I get them and there's quite a few of you that seem to enjoy that and youtubers informed us that if we don't do at least one unboxing related video per month we will lose the right to use unbox in our name so we'll start with the bubble wrap here but yeah really disappoint with gigabytes effort on this one not even a not even a satchel just bubble wrapped anyway I'll get over it but we'll get into it and see if we've got here at least we have two layers of bubble wrap so that's something okay as many of you are probably aware I'll get this off first as many of you are try again as many of you are probably aware intel released their skylake X refresh so now it's their ninth gen series they skipped 8th gen so we went from the 79 80 XE to the 99th 80 XE and all you've got was a soldered Tim that sort of it slightly improved thermals but then it also made it worse because everyone just D leads the 7000 series the sky like X series they just delayed them and proved thermals dramatically you can't do that with the solar chips and the soldering doesn't really help that much so it's kind of worse anyway motherboard manufacturers motherboard partners have released sort of well NX 299 refresh I guess you could say certainly wasn't gonna be the X 399 that mess continues but anyway we we have the new gigabyte X 2 9 horas master and their new master motherboards particularly from these edit 390 range have been very impressive so we'll see what this has in store for us TD pigs and that sort of stuff haven't changed for the new processors as I said they're just soldered really that's it slight change in price but nothing really worth getting too excited over but base new motherboards do look much improved gigabyte already had quite an extensive X 299 range they kept releasing boards and improving them but now we have this one the X 290 Norris master and like a lot of these gigabyte boards with the huge full size back plates it's very very heavy and I can't believe what I'm seeing here but it looks like we have a real finned heat sinks indeed we have two real finned heat sinks it look like about a 6 millimeter heat pipe connects them they're sort of I still don't really get why they do this it's it's got this aluminium shroud thing over it which completely blocks the airflow through the heatsink so definitely reduces its effectiveness I imagine them also be quite good anyway yeah be disappointing that this heatsink here looks pretty good I don't know if there's a fan in behind there it looks pretty blocked up so again you've got some nice fins yeah well you guys I'll take this off yeah it looks great nicely with all that plastic removed so it looks like no that's probably an RGB cable there's a little wire sticking out here that probably should be under there a bit better but yeah it doesn't look like there's a fan or anything forcing air through there's definitely no way of getting air through the backside or either side of the plastic IO shroud so yeah again airflow is gonna be pretty limited there it's nice to see fin heat sinks but it's a bit disappointing that they're not a bit more practical anyway I haven't tested it yet obviously I've just unboxed it so if you guys are keen I will do some VRML testing of these new x29 on motherboards because there are a few of them and this is obviously gigabytes but in addition to that we have two 8-pin connectors we have three m dot 2 slots they've got the new thermal guards on them I've been thinking of doing like a roundup of testing all the different thermal guards of all the motherboards and seeing which ones are rubbish if any of them work really well so that could be something that I will do a gigabyte is saying that it has a 12 phase vrm and actual 12 power stage doubled up there are doubles on the back so it's probably six PWM signals creating it twelve phases it's approach the only way to go there thermal pad looks good so yeah it could be quite a good performing board this one nice feature set we've got wireless AC they've got 2.5 Gigabit LAN along with Gigabit LAN so we're starting to see that two and a half Gigabit LAN used a lot more on motherboards and then you've got your sort of gigabyte RGB lighting stuff looks like this will be lit here it's probably some other lights hiding all over the place and yeah I'll fire that up at some point don't know if I'll get it in time to show any b-roll but that is the new gigabyte motherboard no pricing information for either the US or Astra it's not available at this point in time I don't know if anyone's reviewed it yet but obviously I haven't but anyway that's that we should probably move along to see what else I've got we might as well tuck into this big MSD box we've got here it's very big not super heavy but a mess I like to strap the hell out of their box so this makes getting into them a little bit more difficult than it should be what would be otherwise okay like I said big box not particularly heavy I think it says X 299 on the side at least that kind of gave it away we got okay so they're just empty motherboard boxes and that's what we've got in there that is it okay so second box second X 299 refresh motherboard and this is the mega X 299 creation so we had the X 399 creation which is pretty much my favorite X 399 motherboard absolute beast that thing I'm using it in my editing rig and so's Tim so that probably tells you how much we like those that particular board but here is the X 2 9 iron version same sort of shadow glass theme which some of you like a lot of you don't like Tim and I don't mind it you don't really see a lot of it when you've got it installed in the system so it probably doesn't matter too much but I think it's a the board looks fine okay well a quick look at this one of the more move on I won't go on too much about this one not sure about the vrm on this board is that the board there yes actually I'll show a little bit more of the what you get with the card oh sorry the motherboard this MSI do crook provide quite an impressive package with their godlike and crashing and all their higher-end motherboards so this little thing that looks like a mini ITX graphics card is actually an m2 nvme SSD expansion card and it looks like this one you can expand with an additional 4 M 2 cards so you just stick that in your PCI Express time 16 slot and you can go crazy with nvme drives in this package here it looks like we have a Thunderbolt 3 adapter yep we got to type C's and then two of your sort of full-size display port connectors and that will go in a PCI Express x one slot so Thunderbolt 3 support got some high gain antenna and then a little bag here which features things like your i/o shield else we got in here looks like it is a high bandwidth SLI bridge I know there's just a whole heap of RGB connectors and SATA cables and some stickers and things so plenty of stuff in there and then of course we have the motherboard some performance numbers there probably don't need to worry about those we'll work that out for ourselves at a later date and here we have another heavy X $2.99 motherboard though this way isn't quite as heavy as the gigabyte board is there is no full-size backplate and it is still a big big that's a huge motherboard extended ATX board very very serious-looking vrm on that one don't know if that's a 12 or 16 phase or what it has three eight pin CPU power connectors probably not required to would be more than enough but we've got three so not sure how much juice you're planning on pumping and I'm gonna show you power supplies have three eight pin power connectors but anyway we've got one two three four five six doublers on the back yeah it looks like just six so that's probably a 12 phase vehicle vrm which is what gigabyte are offering so similar the only thing I don't really love about this board is that it's got the same heat reservoirs the aluminium blocks over the VAR m yeah and it's got the same same behind the i/o panel as well a little more airflow and once you put the i/o shield and there won't be so yeah that's connected by a what looks to be a flat six millimeter copper heat pot nickel-plated that's probably what it is yeah I mean it's probably gonna run pretty cool anyway so we'll give that a test probably have to use my 79 ATX ears I don't have a 99 ATX II but as I said that the same thing anyway so not really a big deal there and it looks like an addition to gigabit networking we have 2.5 gigabit ethernet as well and we also have 3 m dot 2 slots again with some sort of thermal shielding I'll have to see how well that works that sort of integrated into the chipset heatsink as well the platform controller hub heatsink a pretty cool looking board can to give that a go as well okay just not to heap of things off will grab it I'll try it the big ones out of the way first so we can clear up a bit of special true to Corsair boxes here we'll start with this one I suppose see what we got in here try and do this again not looking at anything yet I've been wanting these looks like they got to I can't let me hopefully one day I end up with a set that's big enough to do these unboxing boxes looks like they've sent me a pair of the new h1 15 i RGB platinum all in one liquid coolers and they're both the two 80 millimeter version I believe yep that is correct so these will be for my new test systems that I'll be building shortly or upgrading some of the test systems that I have ok so there's already a few reviews floating around of these guys so I won't go into too much detail I won't bother unboxing or anything like that you'll see them in future builds and we'll probably do some testing and stuff like that $180 u.s. or 230 Australian so not too bad there you know for 230 at PC case gear and we recommend using those guys if it can really good customer service and yet has a 200 millimeter radiator they've upgraded them now to have the ML which are the magnetic levitation fans so there you've got a pair of 140 millimeter ml fans with GB of course so it is the new the RGB version so the previous non platinum model had the RGB block but not RGB fans and that's just I don't know what I call say we're thinking they RGB everything these days but anyway that's that the waterblock also has 16 embedded RGB LEDs now that can be fully controlled using their cue software and it supports all current platforms I don't know Tim didn't use one of these on each thread reveal I think he used the H 150 I Pro from memory anyway doesn't offer full tr4 coverage but he says it works really well temperatures are cool and there's no hot spots or anything like that so yeah interesting to have a bit of a look at that but anyway I'll move along ok next big box would be probably I'll care for this one I'll do this one next see what's in here and then we'll just have the small package just to deal with which are a bit easier and often just as exciting a few of them ah awesome awesome awesome this is definitely going to be featured on the channel without a doubt probably in a build but I'll also be keen to do some vrm thermal testing with to the 2950 x so this is the new asrock phantom gaming 6 and if you can't tell it's an x3 99 motherboard and the point of this one is it's meant to be an affordable x3 99 motherboard and you might be thinking well why do you want an affordable x3 99 motherboard because it's a high-end desktop platform people are willing to spend a lot of money and get tons of features and all that kind of stuff which is true however in the case of AMD CPUs the first generation through proper CPUs are still on sale and they're bloody cheap I made a video about the 1920 X over a month ago now and that thing had dropped down to $400 us back when I made that video it was definitely over a month ago and today you can pick one up on you egg Amazon flick for a hundred and twenty dollars u.s. so that's insane for 12 core processor of course we do have a Zen 2 coming next year though that'll probably be announced at CES but it could come quite a bit after that so hard to say there anyway we've got the 1920 X 4 $420 UF's which is incredible by therefore 12 core CPU and then the 1950 X for $600 us which is just mind-blowing value for a 16 core 32 thread CPU this board here will only support the 180 watt TDP CPUs which is up to the 16 core models so the latest processor would be the 29 50 X and really that's perfectly fine because the higher-end models you start getting well up over $1000 and while it would be nice to pick up you know one of the 24 core models down the track at a reasonably affordable price you probably at that point better off getting whatever's in to has to offer within that 180 watt TDP limit so I think this has an eight phase-- vrm not a high percent sure on that I will have to dig into it and take it apart and get a better look at it it does have 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet so that's kinda nice we're starting to see them on a lot of other boards so hopefully we will start to get some affordable switches or at least some switches that - ridiculous in terms of pricing their prior to the release of this motherboard I think your cheapest X 399 boards for about $300 u.s. and this one will be coming in at a thief 250 so it might get closer to 200 but even it at 250 that's still $50 off and when you're buying a cheap first gen 12 or 16 core processor saving at $50 is quite important how will that sharpen get me soldered taps on the back so along with the mother 1 the package we get an iron shield we get expansion slots sort of adapter card for Wi-Fi though I don't see any Wi-Fi adapters that would be an optional thing if you put one in the m-dot - it does have an MDOT - Wi-Fi but it isn't populated and this would be an SLI bridge so then your manuals a couple of em top two screws and all that typical kind of stuff that you find in motherboards running out of room already so back of the board front of the board some decent sized heat sinks down the rear I'm not thinned thinned finned thinned finned really only looks like it could be a six phase erm so yeah oh maybe you tonight I don't know yeah I'll take it apart later and work it out but there are no doubles on the back side of the board they could be on the top side I can't see them so we'll have to take the heat sinks off and have a better look later but anyway it is targeting 180 watt TDP processor so it should work fine there and as I said it's just an affordable board for those cheaper 12 and 16 core CPUs basically if you're spending over a thousand dollars up to $1,800 u.s. for the 2990 WX then motherboard price doesn't matter too much notice by something like the $3.99 creation from MSI but if you're not after an $1,800 u.s. processor then you probably don't want to spend five six hundred dollars us on the motherboard this is where this guy comes in and it does have some really nice features like I said it's got that 2.5 gigabit ethernet it's got decent audio looks like we've got three m dot two slots one of them has a thermal shield that's kind of nice if it works well eight SATA ports and yeah so for an x3 99 motherboard it's got a reasonable amount of features at the $20 price point which as I said is makes it pretty much the cheapest x3 99 motherboard you can buy right now unfortunately not available in Australia just yet so I can't give you the Aussie pricing okay we should probably get rid of this box cuz I've been meaning you get it the last few goes now not sure if I'll close it upside down or not but who cares and get into it oh okay okay very nice I'll get these and put a mean okay we won't unbox these I'll just quickly show you that I have them and they'll probably be a review coming up on the channel but reasonably shortly I'll get I'll try to get onto these as quick as I can we just reviewed the RT X xx atti horas extreme graphics card looked really awesome now the cooling was decent wasn't as good as I was hoping for the heatsink looks amazing the cooling looks amazing unfortunately it's not the most amazing performing cooler despite being one of the more amazing looking ones so that was a bit of a shame it wasn't terrible or anything but yeah wasn't as good as I was hoping for so anyway I think these have pretty much the exact same cooler so it's probably gonna work really well on the 27 t decent on the 28 and then you've already seen the 20 80 TI so that's that in a nutshell probably just rattle off some pricing quickly the 280 model is selling for 860 u.s. I believe it is and we get a bit rolled on the conversion here in Australia it's fourteen hundred and eighty dollars Australian yeah and then this guy really isn't much better so that's $600 us the MSRP is 500 us but you are getting that fleshy looking cooler so you're paying a hefty premium for a fancy light show if that's what you want and then in Australia it's like a thousand and forty thousand and fifty dollars Aussie so yeah that's a bit brutal moving right along we'll get this guy okay very small package ah yes I was expecting these this is the new crucial p1 SSD and it's an nvme SSD it is a so we got looks like ah says it right there 1000 gigabyte we have the one terabyte models two of those so I'm keen to give them a whirl these use qlc NAND memory so that is quad layer NAND memory and that is I haven't actually had any experiences with it yet TLC got to the point where it was quite reliable and so for those of you who don't know SLC is one bit per cell and that's pretty much the most premium stuff you can get you don't really come across too many SLC SSDs there especially for sort of consumer-grade stuff because they're just hugely expensive then MLC which became quite popular that's two bits per cell TLC which is now sort of a new Samsung Evo's my kind of stuff that three bits per cell and then these are four bits per cell basically the more bits per cell the higher chances you have of any readwrite errors occurring the lifespan err endurance of the drive is reduced as you are riding more per cell and then the performance overall can be reduced as well so yeah interested to see how these quad Liar SSDs perform no idea yeah we have the p1 in one terabyte and I could possibly throw these in rate and see how they go there maybe on one of the new x-29 motherboards as for other capacities there is a 500 gigabyte getting around can't recall the prices on that sorry and I think there's a two gigabyte version coming up as well but that's not out yet so the one terabyte model is probably gonna be the most popular because it's a hundred and seventy dollars u.s. so that's pretty bloody cheap though it does work out to be about $280 in Australia so not super great by here but yeah if you're in the US this might be a good option we'll have to test it out and see ok we'll deal with this one next it's a little guy it's shrink wrapped box cool we have a box of plastic stuff more plus oh there we go I think it was upside down this is wasn't really in the middle of the plastic stuff but anyway it looks to be perfectly intact without a mark on it and what we have here is another SSD another nvme SSD Gen 3 PCI Express times 4 this is the XP g sx 8200 pro bit of a catchy name there so apparently this is a data's fastest SSD to date so that's quite impressive I think it is three and a half gigabytes per second read and three gigabits per second right so pretty snappy there pretty typical looking m2 SSD it has SLC caching and there is a dram cache chip on either side as well so that's your cache buffer there and I have no idea about pricing in Australia or the US for this model because well it's not available yet so can't comment on whether it appears to be good value or not but we will probably test this out on the channel the not-too-distant future we've got a few SSDs here I actually have the new qlc Samsung SSD as well so perhaps we do a little SSD roundup ever fordable and fast SSDs and there's a little heat shielding here if your motherboard doesn't have one okay the last actual box we have on hand is this one here and we'll double wrap we'll buy more wrap more level that's actually alright I know what this is now you've probably seen quite a few other youtubers already cover this stuff because well they're not lazy like me and have it left it sitting on their floor for a couple of weeks but this is what we saw at Computex the g.skill Royal RGB memory and I have ddr4 4000 CL 17 memory so not only does it look pretty bling it's going to be ridiculously fast I've actually been keen to get some 4000 memory to test out the coffee like a refresh CPUs in particular the 9900 K well I can see my reflection really well in this it's a little bit scary so I've got two sticks of that with a nice little cleaning mat and then I think I'm hoping this is the little display box that you will have seen pile from bit wit showed this off a while ago on his channel he made a really cool video about it all and it looks to be it he got the gold and the silver it looks like we've just got a sewer but it is the 4000 speed which as I said I'm very very pleased about because I want to do some benchmarking with that we've got a USB cable here I wonder if that's gonna reach my stuff does that goes in there I can put that in there as well got some way to clean there a stall that ah I just had to wait a minute I think I'll plug them into the right demon swim there's only two of them anyway there you go my RGB memory very happy with that so that was a bit of a surprise I actually forgot I had that sitting there and sorry for g.skill for not getting to that sooner all right we have what feels like a box in a bag and that is actually what we have a box in a bag I have absolutely no idea what this is at all not a clue sometimes I can kind of tell because who it's been sent by or the shape of the box but no idea what this is five port USB smart quick charger brick smart charger from Team Group okay calamy and treat this is not I could have never guessed that this would be in here and I don't really know what this is well it's obviously a USB charging station type of thing okay I'm trying oh wow that had a really good suction on there and what do we have here it looks like a power cord it's an Australian power cord as well that almost never happens so there we go two pin power cord very good wow this looks like something Tim would absolutely love to have on his desk because it looks like it is Lego compatible it's not an official Lego product I don't believe that's kind of cool Wow Tim would I imagine Tim would love this probably got the wrong person I'm boxing it but uh yeah pretty simple but kind of cool products so you just plug your power in here so it's not a USB hub at all that is merely a power charging device yeah so it's definitely not a USB hub like I thought it might have been I think it said yeah it didn't say how it all it just said five USB port smart quick charger so you see that wherever you want your kitchen wherever your charge or device is whether that's at your desk or whatever you can stick a couple Lego men on there or integrated into some quite a Lego thing it can actually you can put it on top of Lego or they go on top of it and then there's this little canister thing which goes underneath and you can put bits and pieces in there cables and things and it has via this port here that looks like what is it Qualcomm quick charge 3.0 and it does say it's Lego compatible weighs 250 grams one Arthur's so outputs 55 watts in total 1.3 amps max so each of these standard USB type a ports has a combined 8 amps across all of them it says each can do a maximum of 2.4 though then for the quick charge it does 3 amps at 5 volts at 2 amps at 9 volts and then 1.5 amps at 12 volts so yeah it's pretty cool it's a little 10 centimeter by 10 centimeter brick this is because 6 centimeters tall and it apparently is a product that Tim group now sell so yeah it's kind of cool yeah would not have ever guessed that there was a team group Lego sort of themed though not sure if it's an official Lego product but it just said leo compatible on the thing yeah that's charger very cool I might have to try and if I want to keep this one I'll have to somehow keep this one a secret from Tim so hopefully he doesn't watch this this episode alright alright we're getting there we are getting there last two packages we'll open this one up first just because it's the closest one to me no other reason my RGB memory is still going strong we've got two boxes in here ooh Plantronics headset they're always good an icon controller I'm not that familiar with okay so apparently the deal here is that Nikon and Plantronics have teamed up to create a limited-edition sort of controller headset combo so you can see that they're designed to go with one another they support ps4 or PC pcs obviously what we're interested in and this seems like a pretty cool combo for rocket League players or well anyone that plays a game on PC that requires a controller to be enjoyed to its fullest and then of course if you use ps4 then well you use ps4 so I'll take a quick look at the headset first I have a plant Ronix headset that I use I can't remember the exact model but I use that for when I game and yet really really comfortable it's one of the few headsets that doesn't give me a bloody migraine after a few hours of gaming so we've got a detachable mic very nice Shh stop making noise alright so we have a very light weight our headset here it's not Wireless though so we have a connector here for hooking that up so this little device here is kind of cool this is the rig game volume controlled dial I think I got that right basically it's a volume control dial a max volume louder or quieter generally how they work but the cool thing about this is actually to show you the cool thing about this I actually have to get the controller out so I'll do that just quickly okay here is the controller it is also very lightweight it feels really nice if you can hear a humming in the background I do apologize my next-door neighbor has started mowing his lawn so yeah we'll have to put up that with that for the remainder of this episode hopefully it's not too loud on the microphone but the cool thing about this controller is it has a little headset jack there and then this has a little tab to keep it level or straight and it plugs in just like that and well you gave me if you want to adjust your volume you just go bang like that instead having to use the headset up here or you know having a dial down here where you're trying to mess around with that you can basically just grab that with your thumb and adjust the volume up or down so that it's pretty neat I really like that and then that just connects in up here you can swivel around there that works pretty well and then down here we have the connection for the microphone which is as I said detachable quite obviously detachable that plugs in like so and yes they are still very comfortable like mother Plantronics headset they hold on nice super lightweight they don't grab your head really hard don't crush your ears but at the same time then hold on really well and they come down to your controller and the controller connects by a USB type-c it's probably a cable somewhere in you here we go so yep type C at the controller end that slots in nicely and then you've got a type a that'll go to your ps4 or your PC and then there's also a little packet here with this little key which you can use to remove these lugs at the end of the controller they slide out and you can weight them so if you want to make the control a bit heavier because without any weights it is very light which I quite like but if you like a bit of weight so you can make one side heavier than the other or however you want to do it you can do that with the weight system alternatively you can use these little weights for working out as well yeah that's about right for me good size that one so yeah neat controller I'm 2 by no means to control our expert but it seems very good to me I'll probably take this to Tim's later this month for our QA because he loves console gaming and I'll see what he makes of it yes that's the Nikon revolution at pro controller - quite a neat device not a hundred percent sure on the price for this one all the headset I wasn't able to find any pricing information and I'm not sure how you go about purchasing them in a bundle whether there's a discount or if they have to be bought separately don't have researcher on that one then lucky last wrapping up the episode we have this package here and inside what looks like we have a Razer products yes we have a Razer product and what is it what is it Benari wireless gaming headsets okay so the nari is razors new top-of-the-line wireless headset and massive cans on this thing and this is one of three models so I suppose this is the mid-range model the standard now so does the nari essential which is a bit cheaper and the ultimate which is a bit more expensive but this is the middle road option so we have a USB charging cable and then if you don't want to use it wirelessly you can use a 3.5 millimeter audio jack detachable microphone fully swivel if you're familiar with the other razer headsets that feature this sort of design then you'll be pretty familiar with what these offer but they are wireless are you looking at just for the model standard model I suppose just the Denari without anything extra added to the name are you looking at hundred and fifty dollars us or two hundred and fifty Aussies so quite expensive down under but yeah they're supposed to be the new flagship awesome models so I will test these out on my computer later today and see how they go I'll be testing these out I might even play some rocket League or something I haven't played that game for a very long time so I'll give you the controller a whirl in that with a couple of mates and it's they want to make of that as always I'll put links to buy or inspect the price of any of these products or any other details down the video description itself you're interested check that out yeah this was a fun little surprise keen to give that a go I'll probably check out in the kitchen that's where we seem to charge our phones and stuff for the most part and all the kids devices you'll be seeing I won't be reviewing this memory because they don't really review memory but they'll be featured in a few builds and I'll be using it as I said to test out the 9900 kay maybe the 9700 okay as well with some much faster memory that we have been so that could be interesting so memory scaling type video perhaps a benchmark video of some description anyway then I will be doing a build with this new motherboard and you found him gaming 6x3 no you know motherboard definitely doing a build on that and I'll probably do some kind of verum test as well just to see how that goes I don't think I'll check the 32 car on there just to see what happens I think I'll I'll stick to the spec put the 2150 X or whatever on to that board then we have the new X 299 boards probably do some sort of test with those probably won't do a build or probably just do a very informal test and some overclocking whatever else you guys want to see SSDs to check out a couple of graphics cards over some box to myself a whole heap of work so I probably should wrap this episode up and it Gary get into it not sure what I'll start with yeah my preference is kind of leaning towards doing a budget thread or her build because those 1920 X and 1950 CPUs are just amazingly good value right now and yeah keen to check these out as well anyway thank you for watching this episode of unboxing boxes I'm your host Steve and I will see you again soon
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