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welcome back to harbor unbox today we have a bit of an odd release to cover Intel's new Zed 390 chipset there's nothing particularly odd about the chipset itself or the motherboards that it's featured on though MSI's godlike is a little bit outrageous what's odd is that today we can talk about these new boards we can show them off to you and really there's nothing that we can't show you in regards to the boards but what we can't do is test them with a new 9th gen processor and in my opinion that kind of defeats the purpose of showing you these boards at all really the entire point of these new Z 390 motherboards other than to give motherboard manufacturers an excuse to create a new range of motherboards is to fully support or ensure full support for the new 8 core processors such as the core I 999 okay as they will suck quite a bit of power so you want to make sure that you have a very beefy vrm but we'll get to that in a moment existing is ed 370 boards will still support the 1900 K so there's full backwards compatibility there are forwards compatibility with the eighth and ninth gen series but many of the cheaper boards were designed around these six core 8700 K and therefore may could possibly not I percent sure yet véra vrm throttle with the 9900 k particularly if you plan to overclock so yeah that's something we will investigate in a later video we obviously aren't allowed to test it now because we can't do any 9,900 K testing at all nothing not even for testing of air and thermal so bit disappointing and it's got me scratching my head as to what we're doing for this release so that means it'll be another week and a half before we can properly test these 390 motherboards with a ninth gen processor and of course at that time we will probably shift our focus towards the ninth gen Pro so we will test them on these boards but these boards won't be the focus of our day one coverage in a week and a half but we will follow up with some vrm temperature testing overclocking and all the usual stuff we do with motherboards my initial plan was to get that out of the way today since the boards are being released day but all that juicy vrm thermal and overclocking stuff will have to wait till we can show you the night okay so yeah that's a bit disappointing but there's the rules what we're allowed to do today is show you an easy 390 advertising and press materials do an unboxing review and all live demo with an 8th gen process up as many of you know I quite enjoy getting the chance to unbox the latest and greatest tech a few days ahead of the release to show you what we're working on and give you just a little bit of insight basically it's fun and I get to give you a heads up that all those juicy benchmarks are just around the corner but for this one we aren't going to be unboxing the main event the new 9th gen processors in fact I don't really have that much information about these new processes to give you some reviewers may have more information but right now we don't actually have a contact at Intel at all so yeah all the information I've got has come directly from the motherboard vendors but what I'm hearing is about the time this video goes live Intel will be doing a live stream where that will be possibly taking pre-orders for the 9th to end processes of course we always recommend you don't pre-order but you will be at at least acquire the MSRP s for all these chips so that pricing is useful information unfortunately I don't have it right now but maybe at the time of me saying this as you watch it you will know what the prices of these processes are so future Steve will have more information that he won't be giving you in this video so in the absence of any real testing or at least testing that would be useful that is testing with a 1900 K not the 8700 K what I've decided to do is tell you as much as I can about the Zed 390 chipset which admittedly isn't a whole lot the 9th gen core series processors we have some useful information there such as core count which we're already pretty well aware of and clock speeds and stuff at least I have the official information that I can release other Zed 390 motherboards we have a couple of those on hand the one board but well a flagship board from asrock and a flagship board from msi so we'll go over those towards the end of the video but for now I'll give you some information regarding the core i9 1900 k the core i7 9700 okay the core i5 9600 K all of which part of the coffee like refresh the core I 999 hundred K is an 8 core processor with hyper-threading enabled for 16 threads it operates at a base frequency of 3.6 gigahertz but will boost as high as 4.7 gigahertz and all caused with a maximum single core frequency of 5 gigahertz the l3 cache has been increased from the 87 our case 12 megabyte capacity up to 16 megabytes and quite shockingly despite packing two extra cores and 4 megabytes more cache the TDP rating remains the same at 95 watts which was already suspiciously low for the ID 700 K granted the TDP is measured from the base frequency but the 99 K is only clocked 3% low while packing 33% more cause obviously this is going to be one power-hungry hot little item an indication of this is the fact that Intel's now soldering these chips rather than using thermal paste as they have in the past at least as far back as 2011 the core i7 9700 K is also an 8 core processor but it lacks hypotonia support meaning it only packs 8 threads it comes clocked at these same 3.6 gigahertz base frequency while the all core and single core clock speeds have been devalued by 100 megahertz and the l3 cache capacity down to 12 megabytes then finally we have the core i5 9600 ka 6 core 6 threaded part and this is basically a rebadged Core i5 8600 k with a 100 megahertz increase in frequency so all ninth gen parts revealed so far a soldered feature official support for ddr4 2666 memory and pack a 95 watt TDP rating though the 9700 km 9900 K are the only truly new CPUs in this series given that these new 9th gens use the same coffee-like architecture on the 40 nanometer process we have a pretty good idea of what to expect in terms of performance power consumption and overclocking Headroom FSI suggests in their press material that 5 gigahertz should be a typical overclock for an onliner ok but oddly in their game boost slide advertised 5.4 gigahertz for the base and 5.7 gigahertz as the single core clock speed and they advertise this as being possible a turn of a dial I don't doubt that this is what the mode 11 tries to achieve but without insane voltages and exotic cooling I can't imagine this being remotely achievable but anyway I guess we'll find out soon my 8700 K is considered to be a golden sample and it can only do five point three gigahertz on the very best is there 370 motherboards actually used the godlike version there's at 317 God life for a lot of my five point three gigahertz testing so yeah I'm not expecting too many of the eight core models hit five point four G Hertz but I guess we will know what it's capable of before too long then we see in the same slide that they're advertising an all core maximum or core frequency of five point three gigahertz for the 9700 K and five gigahertz for the 9600 K so yeah that's quite interesting moving on we have the Zed 390 chipset which like most chipsets these days is a bit unnecessary when compared to these ed 370 chipset Zed 390 brings native support for up to half a dozen USB 3.1 gen2 ports and cnv I support the native USB 3.1 gen2 support means that 390 motherboards should support more of those ports most of the higher ends at 370 boards only offered to 3.1 gen2 ports using a third-party controller as force ENVI support it was the H 370 chipset that was first to employ Intel integrated connectivity or CN VI technology for whilst networking in short this technology moves the bulk of the wireless module into the chipset this means the m2 module only needs to have some very basic stuff along with the antenna making Wi-Fi a much cheaper add-in product anyway neither feature is really a game changer and I'm certain most of you can do with the various versions offered by these at 370 motherboards the real reason we have this new chipset is to signify that all Zed 390 motherboards will be up to the task of extracting maximum performance from the core o 999 or ok so that is to say they all pack a sufficiently beefy vrm I don't expect we'll see any Zed 390 motherboards with anything less than a true six phase of erm having said all that if you do have a high-end said 370 bored then you shouldn't have any trouble getting the most other than you eight core models even if you plan on overclocking so all eighth and ninth gen core processors will work on these same motherboards that regardless of whether they sport a Zed 370z 390 h3 7tb 360 or even the h3 10 chipset I have to admit I chuckled a little bit when I went over this particular slider for MSI is showing continued compatibility the part where they state due to the limitation by bias and ME coffee light refresh CPUs will only be compatible with Zed 390 and other 300 series motherboards and will not work with 100 and 200 series motherboards we've talked about this before and how Intel could open up support for the eighth and now ninth gen CPUs on the 100 and 200 series boards while the 300 series boards could support these 6th and 7th gen core processors but Intel refuses to allow it anyway I just found that a little humorous that arrow size basically saying Intel's limiting support and all it would take is a few minor software updates and they could make their platform significantly more consumer-friendly now for those of you who missed it we heard a similar thing from Andrew were the asou sprite manager I believe that was last year shortly after the 8th gen series was first released so yeah not a lot to talk about when it comes to these ed 390 chips though itself so we might as well take a quick look at a few of the more insane as ed 390 motherboards for the sneak peak we have 2 flagship models the msi meg z 390 god-like and the asrock z 390 Taichi ultimate like these ed 370 godlike this new version is another limited edition type deal so if you want to get your hands on what I suspect will be the most extreme Zed 390 motherboard on the market then you'd best not mess about that's at a slightly cut down and arguably much more sensible version known as the magazine 390 ace will be available for the life of the platform the highlights of the godlike model include a 16 phase V core verum jewel killer a 2500 Gigabit LAN streaming boost PCIe card and support for 5 m2 SSDs out of the box for those wondering the ACE version has been downgraded to what's still a rather over killed 12 phase vrm and the m-dot to expand account has been removed from the package most of the onboard features there are quite similar the V Corvair and configuration of the godlike has basically been lifted from the Meg external creation so that's obviously a pretty good thing this means it's a genuine 16 phase V core very amusing the ir35 2:01 controller which supports up to eight phases each phase is doubled using the ir35 99 phase w which connects to a pair of Infineon TDA 21 for seven to power stages for two separate phases these are 70 amp power stages so the godlike is extreme overkill with a peak current capacity of 1120 amps then from asrock the king of their Hill is the Zed 390 Taichi ultimate and this board packs all the latest bells and whistles as well as rocks gone with a 12 phase V core verum which should provide the no hurricane with more than enough power even went overclocked to the max as rocks also gone all that with the networking by including dual Intel Gigabit LAN along with a single 10 Gigabit LAN connection they've also included Intel dual band 802 11 AC Wi-Fi supporting up to 1.7 3 gigabits per second of throughput along with Bluetooth 5.0 as for the vcore verum configuration we have an IR 3 5 2 0 1 controller connected to 6 ir 3 5 9 8 SS which connect to a dozen TI 8 7 3 5 0 D power stage is rated for a maximum current capacity of 40 amps but will deliver 25 amps at 90% efficiency that means up to 300 amps can be delivered at 90% efficiency with a peak load of 480 amps interestingly neither the godlike nor the Taichi ultimate feature proper finned heat sinks and while this is much less of an issue for the god like the Taichi ultimate will probably also run at reasonable temperatures with the no her ok overclocked to say 5 gigahertz of course we can't release any real testing until the 19th I think it's fair to assume that Z 390 boards are going to cost more than sort of your mid-range said 370 boards and that the 1900 kr 97 are ok are going to cost quite a bit more than in previous a flagship mainstream desktop CPUs so it'll be interesting to see how they compare to AMD's rise in 720 700 X on a be 450 motherboard anyway that is going to do it for now I'm again very sorry I couldn't bring you vrm thermal performance of I've got about half a dozen zeb 390 boards on hand right now that I would like to test but we had a look at these two more extreme boards anyway yeah bit disappointing I'm just as disappointed as you guys that I couldn't spend many many hours testing these boards with the 1900 K but that testing will still happen we just have to wait a bit longer anyway if you did enjoy this video feel free at the like button for us please subscribe for more content just like this and if you're preciate the work we do at our box then consider supporting us on patreon thank you for watching I'm your host Steve and I'll see you again next time you