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well hello there beautiful so ever since switching to risin is our primary workstation workhorse for video production and gaming etc people have been asking if it's been worth it both Eber and I utilized the 1700 X CPU and 8 core 16 thread monster and it really choose to rendering videos and you know gaming is fine the main question that I'm here to answer if it's been worth it for me now I think three months is a good time for him to understand the capabilities of this ecosystem but also understand and discover its drawbacks so let's talk about all that right after this wondering how to fix a boring fan check out halos RGB there are super slim fan frames that light up your blades of any shade come on 120 and 140 member sizes to fit any fan and a control through your motherboard or your fan text case available in beautiful aluminum or simple plastic it's time to Halos your build outline what matters so I'm gonna start off by saying if you have not seen our original video of switching to Rison from my previous into base machine make sure to check it out a lot of insightful information on why we made the switch in the first place and give you a really good reference point as to how much performance gain we get we got in premiere for rendering videos now the main benefit for me with Rison really came through multitasking and that I was not able to do before because it was just it would really slow down render times so now I could be rendering a video on the background working on the thumbnail in Photoshop watching a 4k video from Ebro for example downloading games on Steam all that without impacting too much on the render times and what you can see from this graph is that additional time saved in render times while doing all these other things in the background but as many people pointed out that render times is not everything so while you could be rendering things in 10 minutes sources 20 minutes what performance like in real life scrubbing on a timeline with 4k footage and all that and that's when things get interesting so for my premiere workflow I edit with proxies which means lower resolution files are used in the timeline the deliver much smoother scrubbing I can cut faster and most importantly preview my edit without any stutter since 4k files with some color and other effects applied I really difficult to preview in real time without dropped frames so this is when my machine start to act and drop rings like crazy even using proxies on my rise in machine what's more interesting is that I dropped more frames when using the proxies those lower resolution files then using actual 4k files so something definitely was wrong now the reason why dropped frames are the enemy for every editor is because when I'm trying to preview my timeline I want the playback to be as smooth as possible so I know exactly when to cut it I can edit to the music easier and just becomes a really nice and seamless process but if you're dropping frames the footage is stuttering it's not playing back in the real time it's like gaming at like 2 FPS it's really annoying it was really getting to a point where I had my Intel based machine which I now use for case reviews kind of ready on standby in case I need to swap out my system and just continue on editing without all these kind of like slowdowns that I was experiencing before even though my render times would be slower at least my performance on the on the timeline would be significantly better especially when I'm using proxies and for gaming in general I'm totally fine with the performance especially since I'm running in gtx 1088 almost 2 gigahertz but for example of where my scaling system was far superior is when you need really high frame rate like when i reviewed a 240 hertz display and my Rison system wasn't able to reach stable 240 hertz fps and csgo at low settings where's my 6700 K could easily reach 300 + and on my rising machine I experienced a few really bad frame drops in the middle of gameplay in csgo which I've never experienced on my Intel machine what's more I was experiencing unexpected crashes while rendering videos even though my temperatures and both views were all sort of in line and not out of boundaries to cause these issues but then on one of the crashes my Intel end game is is the on which the OS is installed was not being recognized until I pulled that out switch some slots and then even tried it on a different machine only for it to work again after inserting it and resetting the CMOS and resetting the bias and all that stuff however the one piece of information I haven't told you is that when I did that swap from Intel to Rison my OS drive I didn't format it I simply plugged it in and I did a Windows reset or some refresh where it keeps all my files but just does it clean so Refresh of Windows but AMD recommends a complete format of the always drive so that three installs everything completely fresh and so I was hoping that that was the baseline of all my issues and it was time to do a clean Windows install and ever since doing that clean windows installed updating to the latest bios running the latest AMD drivers I have not experienced any crashes or unusual behavior from a video production work or gaming so proxy workflow in Premiere is back to normal it's flawless no hiccups or dropped frames and the new buyers brings stability and slightly wider memory compatibility so I can run thirty-two hundred megahertz on the memory on some rise and tested kits and so the Rison platform is updating which is awesome but I've never had to worry about high-speed memory compatibility on my intro machines nor have I needed to update the BIOS as much as I have on Rison we also found out that some hardware is not even tested on AMD platform like the student half-inch external enclosure by silverstone i was gonna use this to house my SSDs and being able to freely move my system from case to case without having to worry of migrating my storage as well but there's something wrong with the SATA signal strength on the rise in motherboards whereas on intel platform this thing works just fine we've also stumbled upon weird behavior using the USB 3.1 gen2 port on the rise and motherboard versus on my skype machine using this m dot 2's as the inside the gen 2 enclosure everything is fine the speeds are great on the rise in motherboard we get slower speeds and inconsistent results throughout our testing if you guys are interested to see how to build your own M that to assess the USB stick check it out right over here I also found out that Rison is really unmatched for adobe lightroom which is a really popular app for photographers so just zooming in to get the full resolution preview takes a while changing any in the exposure settings really takes it all in the system and they take a while to load as well and just switching between pictures take a really long time for them to load again it's really sluggish and just an unpleasant experience from where I'm coming from using my static machine or even using my MacBook Pro that feels faster and every with Adobe Lightroom I've also experienced more than normal bugs in Adobe Premiere which is unfortunate but I think it's related to in video drivers since they came out so frequently with all these new games that there must be some incompatibility with Adobe so I reverted to an older driver that I know works fine and I haven't had any issues since now my overclocking journey to 4 gigahertz has not been entirely successful and you can check out that failure of a video here I'm giving it enough cooling with a dark rock pro 3 cooler there's enough voltage in them there as well but maybe I'm just not as lucky with my 1700 X Eber has he's running at 4 gigahertz no problem but maybe I'm just not as lucky I've settled at 3.8 gigahertz which I'm happy with and at 26 66 megahertz on the memory and so in contrast to my previous into experience risin 7 doesn't look that great in terms of early stability issues difficulties with overclocking and unoptimized a performance for really important apps so that might suggest that you should avoid rising right now because despite these platform issues I can still do more things and render videos faster with Rison 7 now I've done this fun calculation where in the past three months I have rendered 41 videos with a total of three hundred and twenty-one minutes of 4k footage I render at least two versions of each video so that's 642 minutes and my render speed on horizon is about 2x of the length of the sequence so that means my machine has spent roughly twelve hundred and eighty four minutes rendering video projects or about 21 hours of render time and based on my calculations on how fast this skylake machine was rendering I've saved over 10 hours on the render times and that's why Rison has been definitely worth it and what I started doing recently with the time savings is actually increasing the bitrate of my exports so the video quality is much higher and I'm still saving time when the 1700 X and so the takeaway from this video are a few points one is I'm approaching this from a user's perspective and not exactly like a short-term reviewer because I've actually been using this machine for three months extensively so you know it's kind of unfortunate that I've stumbled upon those issues that were frustrating but of course in the end once I did the reinstall I realized that that was my mistake and number two the risin 7 1700 X and the 17 100 delivers such a good value for a multitasking processor so I could be doing things in the background that they're really heavy and occupy like 100 percent of the CPU on all 16 threads but not really feeling the system bogged down while I'm checking email watching other youtube 4k videos or anything else in the foreground that isn't as intensive and while I am approaching this from a video production standpoint it does apply to really anything CPU intensive and so I'm going to say it one more time that switching to Rison for our workstation pcs has not been a mistake I'm really happy that we did despite the hiccups along the way you know as long as everything is ironed out and it has been for the most part and the fact that we can save 10 hours every three months that's 40 hours a year that's entire work week in the year that my computer is not rendering videos that is important but I do have coffee lake coming to me and I'm excited to try it out in the production environment just like I did with Rison to see if would be worth the switch so make sure to subscribe and check out these other relevant videos regarding Rison we've made plenty I hope you guys enjoyed this little three-month update process and if you are on the horizon what has your experience been like let me know in the comments below I'm a Dmitry we'll see you in the next video isn't it awesome how quiet this machine is I love this compact package