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Cooling AMD Threadripper - Air vs All in One Water

2017-10-03
what's up everyone Eber here with hurricane axe and welcome back to another investigation video what are we investigating today cooling on rising threat Reaper CPUs that's right my friends we are finally getting around to testing both air and liquid coolers to see which one can optimally cool an overclocked 16 core 30 mm 1950 x at 4 gigahertz we have four contenders for this test - a feature from noctua the other two are from NZXT let's kick things off with Noctua we have the you 14 s which is their beefiest you know cooler that comes with a 140 ml under fan and then we have the u 12s that comes with a 120 millimeter fan on the liquid cooling side of things we have the NZXT X 52 and their X 60 tube coolers now our test system is going to be the X 399 bill that I just built recently so if you're interested you can check that out right over here so without any further ado let's get into this but first a quick message from our sponsor Thermaltake premium is now selling gaming chairs with carbon fiber like leather material standard bucket see design with lumbar pillow and neck cushion good adjustable armrests with a sleep recline built in the chairs are available in multiple colors and different sizes learn more in description below all right guys before we get into the coolers and discuss the results I want to quickly talk about socket tr4 because back at Computex I got a chance to check out some X 3 9 9 boards that came with the socket tr4 and I was thinking to myself how in the world would one cool such a massive CPU I mean standard traditional AIO coolers or even air coolers wouldn't be able to cover the entire surface area of that die I was also thinking maybe AMD will provide their own proprietary cooling solutions or their own coolers to complement these new chips which wasn't the case until they officially launched thread Ripper because they came up with a quick solution that adapted existing ace attack liquid coolers by including a bracket within the packaging this meant an enthusiasts or anyone who jumped onto thread repair were only locked down - all in one liquid cooling solutions air coolers were totally out of question a few months ago until now we're starting to see companies like noctua come up with their own version of tr4 coolers specifically designed for thread Ripper now if you recall our performance review of the 1950 X and the 1920 X by the way if you haven't watch that you can check it out right over here I tried a 140 ai yo cooler specifically the NZXT x42 to see how it could handle threat averse epic heat output and unfortunately it didn't do that grain even at stock settings i was roughly getting around 90 c under full load and that raises a lot of questions regarding the massive heat output of TR so i decided to make this video comparing air and liquid coolers on the 1950 x to see how they can handle the heat I obviously excluded the X 42 cooler because I didn't want to kill my cpu so there you have it let's start with the least expensive cooling solution from Noctua the Nhu 12 str 4 it carries the same DNA as the original u 12 series except it comes with its own custom contact surface that's significantly larger than traditional course this should essentially cover the entire die of the cpu and it should theoretically result in better temperatures it also comes with the signature n FF 12 120 millimeter fan so if you're looking for something compact this is a really good option but if you prefer something a bit beefier Noctua has you covered again say hello to the Nhu 14 STR for a 140 millimeter base cooler that shares similar characteristics from the original u 14 series except for that large cpu contact surface area I also found something really interesting with this coolers design and this also happens to be present with the Nhu 12 STR for cooler and that's the implementation of offset mounting options within the secure firm 2 bracket for better PCIe clearance essentially this allows the user to offset the cooler by 3 or 6 millimeters towards the upper edge of the motherboard which then eliminates clearance issues between the tr4 socket and the top PCI slot that's straight-up brilliant unfortunately my rog zenith extreme board from asus or wasn't able to accommodate the u 14s with my gtx 980ti installed on the first piece i slot i tried all three offset configurations but sadly I was out of luck so take good note of that a quick fix to this was to shift the GPU to the second PCI slot which still runs at x16 speeds so I'm not sacrificing on performance but ultimately you know you're left for the top slot that's totally unusable I'm hoping this isn't the case for some other motherboards but the U 12s fits in perfectly even with the top slot occupied so that's awesome on the a I am side of things I decided to stick with the X 52 and the X 62 from NZXT I'm sure both these schoolers don't need specific introductions because you know how they look in function the X 52 features a 240 millimeter radiator whereas the X 62 features a two eighty millimeter radiator so I'm excited to see how well both these could handle the overclocked 1950 X and the last thing I want to mention here before we get into the results is thermal compound application because let's be honest here with Red River CPUs it's a bit messy because there are so many ways to approach applying thermal compound because of that large CPU die so I decided to stick with the X pattern for the aio colors but not to uh suggests a completely different technique you'll first need to apply nine small drops onto the heats better creating a square 3x3 pattern and then add for larger drops in between as you can see here so I'm gonna test out this way for the u 14s and the u 12s so I just unmounted the X 62 cooler from the tr4 socket and just check out this the amount of surface area that the thermal compound took on the X 62 cooler the CPU block that's that's the entire that's the entire copper plate guys now I just unmounted this u 14s cooler for a socket Tier four and check out that thermal paste I mean really not too really wants you to cover the entire IHS and I understand that it does did it I mean it did a pretty good job with the with the with the temperatures but yeah that's that's a lot of mess to clean up for for the ute well then I'm gonna pop in after so are you guys ready for the results here you go I used Ida 60 for stress test on the 1950 x and h ee monitor to monitor the CP temperatures let's kick things off at stock settings since it gives us a rough baseline as to how each cooler stack up with one another as you can see I kind of expected this the Noctua coolers blows the doors off both the aisles from NZXT by a fair margin if you pay close attention to the low temperatures there's a difference of 12 degrees Celsius between the U 14s and the X 52 cooler and roughly a 1 degree difference between the U 12s and the X 60 to a yo cooler that's amazing but if you guys are wondering I did also manage to run the stress test a little bit longer on the X 62 cooler just to see if the temperatures are rising over time but that wasn't the case it did stay rock-solid as you see here but with this order keep up when we overclock the CPU actually it does the octo coolers are still staying strong cooling the monstrous 1950 X at 4 gigahertz I was really surprised to see the you 14s at 60 C because that means we still have a bit more Headroom with overclocking if we're lucky enough the u 12s performed fantastic as well giving us temps around 65 see the X 62 also did a pretty good job cooling the CPU just a few degrees warmer than the u 12 pass however the X 52 struggled to keep up in fact the system froze after 10 minutes into the stress test and the last recorded temp was around 87 degrees Celsius that's 20 more than the X 62 so I would stay away from this 240 millimeter IO if you're planning on building a 300 per PC now let's move on to some acoustic tests well I guess it's about time to wrap my thoughts on air versus liquid coolers for threat River CPUs now before I get into my conclusion I wanted to quickly point out that this by no means is a CPU cooler showdown because I could have added more coolers to see how they perform would threat refer but this is just a test how air versus liquid would do on threaded but it's not specifically pointing out which cooler is the best however seen by those results I am slowly leaning towards air cooling because I feel like a fraternity thread upper system especially a workstation PC and if you want that the best possible reliability out of that machine you should probably stick with air cooling because you don't have to worry about leaks or you know pump failures or you know all the other things that might come down the line with that being said one of the compromises when you decide to go for an air cooling solution is clearance you need to have proper room in order to accommodate the cooler so you know pay attention to your motherboard see if you have proper room and of course the offset configuration should help you in my case it did have workout with the u 12s but unfortunately you 14 s just didn't play out that well with the zenith board and I think that's where people might end up leaning towards liquid cooling solutions because only to worry about is finding the proper room to mount the CPU block and in most cases in fact every case you should be totally fine because AMD does ship with an ISA Tech bracket so I think you should be safe in that regards when it comes to compatibility so I'd like to hear your thoughts on air versus liquid cooling on thread repair where you surprised by the results or you know where did you expect the air cores to outperform the liquid coolers before showcasing the results let me know the comments down below i'm Ebor with hurricane axe thank you so much for watching make sure to subscribe for more similar content and we'll see you in the next one
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