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Intel 7980XE & 7960X Review - i9 Rips into Threadripper

2017-09-25
well the day is finally here Intel is officially launching the core i9 79-80 extreme edition and decor i9 79 60 X both of these are the new Halo products for Intel in their high-end desktop lineup which means they are supposed to compete with aim DS rising threat Ripper CPUs now both these CPUs cost around $3,700 actually come to think of it shouldn't be holding them like this so let me place them safely and let's get to the b roll these skylake processors haven't really been a mystery at all since we've known about their pricing and core counts since this year's copy tax back then Intel launched the I 970 900 X the I 978 20x and the I 970 800 K along with the cable 8 X processors which seemed ridiculous we're not gonna get into that anyways and of course their new x2 9 and platform but at the same time they new AMD had thread repair waiting in the wings and those twelve or sixteen core processors would actually beat the higher-end sky like X processors on the market so what did Intel - well they announced the core counts and pricing for the i9 79 80 X E and the i9 79 60 X in an attempt to take some of the wind out of threaded burst sales but did that strategy really work I mean it's debatable since AMD just quickly launched $1,000 1950 X and the $800 1920 X both of which costs less than what Intel's offering and should offer competitive performance if you're interested in review for those two new CPUs you can check them out right here now Intel's officially hit back with this launch and you know looking at the specs of these two new CPUs I'm thoroughly impressed let's actually start with this guy the 18 core 36 threaded in monster the i9 79-80 Extreme Edition but first a quick message from our sponsor the NZXT hue plus lighting control hub is now available in the white frame to complement the white sixty monta case or other white theme builds for best hardware color coordination with enough extensions included and is used to control the for very bright RGB LED strips or the air RGB fans all through the hue plus hub check it out in the description below okay so the first thing you'll see is that pricing of two grand but since we've already known that for months now I'm guessing the sticker shock will be a bit less not done just less because this one processor costs as much as a high-end gaming PC however its core clock speeds are actually pretty decent of course due to the massive amount of heat being generated with that hundred and sixty-five watt TDP and the input power it requires intel had to keep the 79 80 X YZ base clock to a pretty low 2.6 gigahertz but in testing I never saw the chip run under 3.5 gigahertz however as less coarse are utilized Intel's turbo boost technology really takes over and runs up speeds even higher it maxes out between 4.2 gigahertz and 4 point 4 gigahertz which will be very important for games which typically don't load a processor all that much the $1,700 I 979 60 X has very similar clock speeds and specs as its bigger brother but it has 16 cores and 32 threads along with the price that's a bit less expensive it will still put a very big hole in your pocket though now while the i9 semi 980 Extreme Edition doesn't really have eight to recomm pettite er from AMD just yet the 79 60 X has the exact same number of cores and threads as the 1950 X and yet it costs $700 more really Intel actually let me put some of this pricing into perspective for you guys you can effectively by a thread Ripper in 1950 x and asus prime x 399 eight motherboard ND GT x 1080 for the price of a single i 970 988 ammunition or gravity 1950 x and a GT x 1080 without going over the 79 60 X's price point Intel's also launching the I 979 40 X and the I 979 20x today as well but since this video will focus on higher-end CPUs I'll just let you pause the screen on this chart to check out the specs something else you should take into account is the amount of heat these processors generate the power they consume I'll get into the specifics a bit later in this review but if you're about to buy one of these new processors a high-end air cooler or a very good single bar all in one liquid cooler is absolutely necessary another thing that will always come up in a threader / versus colic extubate will be the number of PCI lanes offered by the processors basically allowing the processor to communicate directly with an attached device should in theory lower latencies and boost overall performance so the more the CPU has the better the record processors have a total of 48 3.0 lanes available for graphics and another doesn't set for high-speed nvme storage solutions meanwhile Intel has 44 lanes available which are typically split with 40 being dedicated towards graphic solutions while another 4 can be towards nvme or other types of high bandwidth storage the balance of PCI ports are housed on the X to 99 PCH I'll be testing to see if there's any difference between the two solutions but on paper aim D setup is superior since it cuts out the chipset and allows for a more direct communication with the key components before again to the benchmarks there's something I have to remind you as well it is important to approach this review from the perspective of a technology lover rather than an outright critic like the red ripper the high-end skylake X processors are technological marvels which will command respect while also attracting endless flame wars but neither Intel nor AMD are targeting their $1,000 plus processors at gamers who can buy a complete mid to high-end gaming system for the cost of a single 16 or 18 core CPU you need to have a very specific set of needs to benefit from the gobs of horse power these things bring to the table even then without properly setting native core Finity for programs a lot of that potential will go to waste just make sure you remember that before criticizing or praising down in the comments down below so with that in mind let's get into the benchmarks okay first up here is a quick glance at the testing setup that we used for each system we try to keep everything as identical as possible from one another starting off with Cinebench is multi-threaded results it is obvious that the extreme edition processor is the processor to be right now the 79 60 ex isn't that far behind and both easily beat the threat river processors the same can be said about W Prime results next up is PC mark and it's obvious that the home and creative benchmarks likely reflect what to expect from these processors in the real world since this test combines multiple different workloads the massive number of course doesn't benefit in every scenario I wanted to test out some single core benchmarks too and here they are with turbo boost 3.0 working in the background the 79 80 X II and thus any 960 X remained very far ahead of AMD's predator but there are still some KB Lake and KB like X processors ahead of them alright so I guess that's it for synthetic benchmarks since I won most of those review to focus on real-world performance and for that let's start off with Adobe Premiere so this is an interesting result and one that I have to explain since neither the sky like X or thread of our processors do as well as you might expect while the 18 and 16 core intel parts are still leading thread Ripper Adobe Premiere requires a balance of higher clock speeds and threads to perform optimally anything over 12 threads results in diminishing returns unless you overclock in some zip the extreme edition processor and the 79 60 X really fly head since this is a program that makes use of Intel's recent optimizations and it loves additional course blender is the same thing as well with Intel taking a massive lead over AMD it is important to highlight that the $300 premium for the extreme edition processor isn't really beneficial here since the 79 60 X is able to hit higher clock speeds more frequently the results repeat themselves in Corona it's interesting to see that whilst Golic X was ahead in these synthetic benchmarks the lead or a thread Ripper is actually increasing in real-world testing and that's interesting since GIMP is a very lightly threaded program you are better off going with a much less expensive but faster clock processor if you can use it on a regular basis moving back to a more multi-threaded program shows these new Intel chips in the lead again but not by all that much over thread Ripper it seems like something else might be causing a bottleneck in the systems other than the processor pov-ray actually raises a good question are the 79 80 see and e79 60x really worth all that much money over 200 person 1950 X sure they have a lead but it isn't a lead that's worth $900 and $600 more rounding up the real world benchmarks in WinRAR and interestingly the i9 7900 cain has a huge lead over everything this is because winrar doesn't stress all course and that one processor was able to achieve a much higher average clock speed during the test okay guys I know that I said these processors aren't meant for gaming since there are much better values in this market if you just want to have a good time but none of our reviews would be complete without a little gameplay obviously the 5-star benchmarks are loves a number of threads offered by the extreme edition processor and these 79 60x their lead is absolutely massive but times pi is a little bit different since the graphics card dictates more of the score so all CPU score very close to one another moving through all the other games you can actually see that there's really no need for such expensive processors if gaming is your system's primary use in some cases even our ultra powerful Titan X became the bottleneck while in others the game developers themselves have capped frame rates to try and improve the overall experience sure there are titles that do benefit from the extra course and in tusk I like X is always ahead of thread upper in the results but not by all that much honestly guys you'd be much better off spending money on a better graphics card than jumping from a Rison or cable II processor to thread repair or sky like X so now with performance out of the way I think it's time to talk about temperatures and power consumption since they are two areas that will play a key factor in the sky like X story when loading up the system's both the i9 semi 980 Extreme Edition and the i9 79 60 X became the most power hungry processors I've ever tested in the last two years by a long shot - they both requires significantly more input power than Indies threader / and sucked down in excess of 50 watts more than the I 970 900 X it looks like Intel tried to push sky like excess frequencies as high as possible in order to be threaded / and the end results is excess power consumption with that amount of power consumption as you would imagine of heat being generated is on the next level you absolutely need a high-end air cooler or a very good common looking cooler at least as a minimum even with a Noctua nagu 14s the I 979 extreme edition processor topped out at 77 degrees Celsius which is the highest I've ever seen a stock processor hit on this cooler it isn't anywhere close to throttling but still this is something you will want to take into account when buying one of these new CPUs with those results taken into account I think this is a great time to talk about overclocking as well and for that you will need to spend some pretty special equipment a dual or triple fan although an electric cooler will be must or if you're going with an air cooling solution something like the Noctua in hu 14s with two fans installed would be a minimum on the power supply side you will need at least a unit that has dual eight pin CPU connectors according to our motherboard partners these new processors can draw well over 400 watts from the 12 volt rail when overclocked over 4 gigahertz on all course this also means that motherboard Wenders will have a challenge with VRMs on some other boards as a matter of fact gigabyte recommended buying their new Oris x2 an 89 Pro Series if you plan on overclocking any 16 or 18 cores comic X processors those motherboards have a different power layout and feature active cooling over their MOSFETs I didn't have much time to overclock these processors so I focused on the I 970 960 X with good cooling I was able to hit a constant 3.9 gigahertz on all 16 cores and I'm sure I could have gone a bit further with more time but even then I saw scores that easily matched or exceeded the extreme edition processor unfortunately hitting the speed also meant my system needed almost 100 watts more power from the wall always stay charged with linky power up power banks house than gorgeous aluminum enclosure with dual USB and type-c port with support for quick charge 3.0 to get two devices recharged fast available up to 20 thousand one hundred million power capacities check them out in the description below and that's a wrap-up for skylake x guys and let me tell you this one's going to be a hard one to wrap up first up I have to give mad props to Intel for you know pushing the boundaries in the high-end test market the i9 79 60 X in the i9 79 80 extremism CPUs are the fastest processors you can buy right now period their fasts are dynamic they're adaptable and most importantly they can blaze through any applications imaginable as you can tell I'm pretty excited to have these two new CPUs here in the studio but I also have to remember that Intel sent over $3,700 worth of CPUs to us well you guys have to be spending the real money on them and let's be honest here skylake x demands a ton of money in most uses cases spending that extra money wouldn't be worth a wild / threader persons an average of 15 percent better performance over a 100 percent price premium just doesn't make any sense but a 10 to 20 percent reduction in rendering times over throw a dripper could mean real money savings for professionals and for them spending an extra $600 or thousand dollars for the 79 60 X or he's 79 80 Extreme Edition could be money well spent but gamers don't think about spending that extra money on these two new CPS because you're much better off with a CPU that costs one third of the price so the 79 60 X or the 79 80 extra munition are crazy expensive and in most situations others less cost alternatives will be the better choice but if you're someone who absolutely needs the best multi-threaded performance that money can buy on the desktop platform then maybe just maybe sky like X will be a good fit so what do you guys think of these two new CPUs from Intel professionals do you see yourself you know spending that extra cash to save and rendering times and of course gamers do you see yourself benefiting from the CPU while you can do gaming and of course streaming in parallel or are you much better off with flutter per like you know in the comments down below I'm Eva with hard 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