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Ryzen 3 vs Intel i3 - ANOTHER AMD Win?

2017-07-27
the time has come my friends it has been an exciting journey covering AMD's rising CPUs we start off the year with horizon 7 which offered fantastic multi-core performance while also being relatively inexpensive a few weeks later rising 5 came to the horizon showcasing great performance compared to intel's mainstream set of processors like the i5 7500 and 7400 in some cases it even knocked out intel's $350 7700 k which was awesome say hello to rise in 3 this is AMD steak on a sub $150 CPU or CPUs because we'll be taking a look at two of them the 1300 X and the 1200 we'll put them through their paces compared to Intel's low-end I three variants and sort of judge for ourselves or analyze where it stands within the market especially for gamers on a budget but before that a quick message from our sponsor the end XD hue + sliding control hub is now available in the white frame to complement the white NZXT monta case or other white theme builds for best hardware color coordination with enough extensions included and is used to control the four very bright RGB LED strips or the air RGB fans all through the hue + hub check it out in the description below alright before I move on if you're interested in learning a lot more about the bass lines and architecture and its various intricacies I recommend you head over to a launch day coverage because it has everything covered link will be in the description down below at the top of AMD's rising 3 stack is the 1300 X priced at $130 which sports for physical course and for threats 2 megabytes of l2 cache and 8 megabytes of l3 it's very much similar to the baseline rise in 5 1400 CPU except that processor has eight threads and lower bass boost coke clock speeds basically this is a 1400 without SMT enabled from a price to performance ratio the 1,300 X could run head-to-head against the horizon 5 1500 XM scenarios that don't necessarily require a large number of course Andy has given a very generous 3.5 gigahertz base clock speed for this CPU and it can also run at a nominal 3.6 K Hertz on all its course provided adequate cooling is supplied meanwhile the two core booster 8 hits 3.7 gigahertz while AMG's extended frequency range or xfr can pump things up to 3.9 gigahertz if we start throwing single thread workloads at it on the other hand Indies risin 3 1200 looks about the same except it has significant cuts to its frequencies its base cloth of 3.1 gigahertz is still quite low and unlike the 1300 X which allowed for a higher all Corbeau speed that base line would still remain at 3.1 gigahertz until only when 2 cores are required when that happens you should see it boosted 3.4 gigahertz since this isn't an X series part of the 200 megahertz of additional Headroom for xfr is cut down to just 50 megahertz so this CPU will run at a maximum of only three point four five gigahertz even in single product tasks while this may all sound confusing here's a quick chart which shows how both of these processors react in different scenarios now when compared to what Intel offers the 1,300 X is $130 price point aligns with the $140 for thread eye 370 380 u whereas the 110 dollar wiesen 3 1200 would go against the $120 eye 370 100 CPU in addition with TDP s-- of just 51 watts the Intel i3 processors seem to be quite a bit more efficient as well that doesn't mean that wiesen 3 would require beefier PSU it would just run a few degrees warmer than Intel but that would be a topic for another video on paper the thread counts on both Intel and Andes processors look quite similar but AMD could have an advantage here since their quad thread layout is achieved through 4 physical cores whereas the i3 CPUs are actually dual-core chips that have SMT enabled remember SMT can add some latency into the equation another bonus feature is that Rison 3 is fully unlocked so you can overclock it without a problem but if you we're on Team Blue you will need to pull out $160 for the i3 73 50k which honestly still doesn't make any sense these days at least not with Verizon 5 around just to quickly go over memory support since it remains something of a minefield AMD has indeed improved memory compatibility and stability with their latest micro code updates but they still support twenty-four hundred megahertz with dual rank ddr4 and 26 66 megahertz with single rank modules you can get higher frequencies through overclocking or potentially using Rison certified memory kit but for maximum compatibility I'd recommend sticking to twenty six 66 megahertz and tightening timings to achieve better performance now with rising three processor is achieving affordable levels there is no doubt that AMD's bt-50 platform is a perfect companion for these chips these motherboards have quickly become mainstream for folks who want access to all the benefits that Rison has to offer like native nvme storage connected directly to the CPU and a chipset that boasts USB 3.1 gen2 capabilities AMD has also included a full stack of overclocking options on their more affordable motherboards which is so refreshing to see when compared against intel's much expensive z2 semi platform do note that X 370 does have support for dual graphics cards at x8 speeds a few more chipset drive SATA ports and two more USB 3.1 gen2 on nodes but the vast majority of users won't need that extra productivity anyways be through fifties real selling factor is its price with most well equipped examples going for between 80 to 110 dollars take this gigabyte d3 15 mini IX motherboard for instance it's got all the bells and whistles that most gamers on a budget are looking for like dual channel memory support a 2 PCI slot USB 3.1 gen2 type a built-in RGB lighting and much more it's a solid foundation that one can build an amazing system moving forward you know what's even awesome unlike the higher-end Rison 7 and Rison 5 lineups all-wise and 3 processors come with weight stealth coolers now many tend to disregard this inclusion but if you're strictly and I mean strictly on a budget these coolers are quite decent and it should even provide some more thermal Headroom for overclocking I would not consider picking up an aftermarket solution simply because you could use that money towards other components like a faster GPU or a nice-looking case ultimately it's your call and now I think it's about time to reveal the benchmarks so prepare your bodies are you ready BAM let's kick things off with a little bit of Ida a benchmark suite that uses high-level algorithms to simulate different processing scenarios here we see that the 1300 X and 1200 compete pretty well against the I 370 300 and I 3 70 100 respectively except in Photoworks which tends to use a single core other benchmarks show the usual rising highlights and multi-threaded environments particularly in a DES decryption and hashing algorithms these Cinebench multi-core results have quite a strong showing for AMD's and new chips with the 1300 x handily beating intel's 7300 and actually coming close to the i5 7500 the Bison 3 1200 did pretty well too but there's a massive gap between the rising 3 CPS due to the 1200 very low frequencies moving up to PC mark and there's not really much different to talk about with the 1300 accent 1200 trading below the Intel i3 series depending on the workload W prime backs us up too but again the 1300 ex shows some amazing results while the 1200 lags quite far behind even though it does BP 7100 by a narrow margin moving on to single core results and this is an area where a m-- DS Xen architecture may have made some big inroads but it still can compare to what Intel can offer it is great to see these very affordable processors competing with higher and rising CPUs but Intel really does dominate here next up we have some benchmarks a few more of you may be able to relate to 7-zip shows the rise in three processors exactly where we would expect them ahead of the 70 370 100 meanwhile Adobe Premiere really likes those two rising processors since they score very well in our 4k media encoder video test as a matter of fact with a little bit of overclocking the 1300 X shouldn't have any problem achieving results that are pretty close to the horizon 5 1400 however blender shows that the rising 3 1200 just can't keep up with the competition due to its lower clock speeds that's a bit of a problem since these rendering tests have been a strength for AMD luckily the 1,300 X performance very well given its price Corona has pretty much the same results as blender with the 1200 lagging behind the 1300 X really showing some strength but when we move on to programs like GIMP which uses between 1 and 2 full worker threads as it processes an image things don't look good for Rison processors however this is absolutely nothing new since intel has always been ahead in lightly threaded workloads hand brakes video conversion tool seems to be a great fit for AMD's since the 39 of X and 1200 both come up with some amazing results as a matter of fact not only does the horizon 339 index handily beats the i3 7300 but it also comes close to matching the 8 core FX 83-70 guys that's pretty awesome even pov-ray shows these very good numbers so it looks like there are certain applications that really do benefit from for physical cores while others seem to prefer intel's higher clock speeds and SMT winrar is a bit of a mess for AMD unfortunately since it has integrated optimizations for Intel processors and it only uses a few processing threads that's the perfect storm for AMD and they lose by a big margin and now onto some game tests starting with 5 strike and the scores are actually very very good indeed the Reisman 339 Ardex keeps ahead of the i3 7300 while the 1200 does the same against the Intel 7100 the DX 12 times by benchmark brings things a bit closer but even in that situation the AMD processors are still able to come out with a narrow win but what does that really mean for in-game tests well let's find out Rison just can't seem to catch much of a break in games and despite being a game that was heavily sponsored by Indies battlefield one shows the advisor 3 processors very close to the back of the chart here the i3 7,300 is more than 10 percent faster on average than the 1300 X and the i3 7100 is nearly 15 percent faster than the 1200 Dale's ex sees a graphics cards become a lot more of a bottleneck so the top end of the processor is between the horizon 5 1400 and I 777 from UK literally offer the same performance that includes the surprisingly fast Verizon 3 1300 X as well the 1200 shows some respectable results - I have a funny feeling that we will see these new rising 3 processors in quite a few entry-level more and FPS rates so performance and overwatch is pretty important well neither rising three CPU can directly compete with the i3 processors they do put up quite the effort that twelve hundred dose in plea doesn't have these stock clock speeds necessarily for adequate gaming performance Call of Duty on the other hand exhibits a game engine frame rate cap so pretty much all the processors perform equally so let's move on much like Call of Duty doom has an in engine rendering cap that limits performance to two hundred films per second however while the rise in three thirteen hundred X is able to keep up with the big boys as is the more affordable rise in three twelve hundred rounding out the game testing is a bit of an oddity even though Grand Theft Auto game engine is dx11 based it absolutely loves two things many threads and Intel processors that means the rising 3 1300 X and 1200 come a bit short against the usual eye crease but not by a huge margin as for power consumption I wanted to spend a bit of time explaining these results there is no denying both of these new rising 3 processors are quite efficient but they are also showing what happens when quad-core parts go up against dual cores remember these are essentially eight core chips that have half their logical processor nodes cut and that itself leads to some efficiency losses as a result against Intel i3 s rising 3 really doesn't fare all that well in the power consumption department this isn't to say the rising 3 is inefficient since its its electricity when compared to a Indies lineup of 6 and 8 port chips but it won't win many performance per watt competitions against Intel ok so now on to overclocking and I definitely have a lot of fun playing around with a 1300 X and the 1200 let's start with a 1300 I got it to about 4 gigahertz with a core voltage or offset voltage of 0.15 and an SOC voltage offset of 0.1 0 the sentiment score is significant compared to the stock score that we were able to achieve I was only able to get the 1200 X to about 3.7 with a core offset voltage of 0.14 and an SOC voltage of 0.1 0 and for CH initely I wasn't able to memory or overclock the memory for some reason even 2666 or even 2400 my cards did not work so it is something that aims you still need to address I guess we just have to wait for motherboard or bundle board updates for the for that BIOS for the respected BIOS in my case I was using the ACS prime B 350 plus it's nice an option for a be 350 based motherboard but I guess you know since this is a new series of processors we just have to wait for a future update to fix memory overclocking oh hey there NCI XCOM is Canada's leading a tailor for anything your mind desires just keep within those categories which are plenty and get tempted by the weekly deals visit ncx calm for all them sweet deals alright guys so this has been a long one so I'm going to wrap it up here with fear my own thoughts and recommendations personally I enjoyed my time testing the rising 3 1300 X and 1200 which is actually sitting at my test bench over there it exactly shows how AMD is going after Intel where it counts while also providing excellent performance for people on a budget now before you hop into the Rison 3 bandwagon there are some things that you need to be aware of for the most part these processors will be beaten by Intel's I 3 Series in gaming and some lightly threaded applications and simply the nature of the Rison versus cable ache equation right now but I personally feel like Rising 3 offers a better value for gamers than what an i3 good you see overall platform cost is extremely important and when one of these new AMD processors is combined with a be 350 motherboard it becomes nearly impossible to beat for someone on a budget remember that unlike the i3 series rising 3 processors can easily make up any performance deficiency by overclocking and overclocking is fully supported on v3 50 even though both of these processors have their strengths and weaknesses I feel like rising 3 1300 X is a lot more appealing than the 1200 it's high frequencies go a long way towards competing against the i3 7300 and at some points it even starts knocking on the I five seventy five hundreds door honestly I can't recommend the rise in three 1200 simply because the 1300 X only cost $20 more you could suck provides a few Starbucks coffees to afford that because I think that from its stock performance to its overclocking Headroom and price the 13-under tax is still one of the best processors available in the market today and that's one of the reasons why we're giving it the hover connects damn good end to end good value award well that concludes this review of rising 3 I hope you enjoyed let me know what you guys think about these new processors in the comments down below i'm your worth hurricane axe thank you so much for watching make sure to subscribe for more similar content stay tuned for a very cool ITX rising bill guide for under $1000 it's what in the works but yeah stay tuned for that video and we'll see you in the next one
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