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God sign up but babe what's up guys Jase two-cent here just playing a little bit about okay before I wanted to find out what happens when Jay puts aside some of his hardware snobbery I went ahead and built a Kaveri APU system that's right this little guy right here is for Dan eight ten seventy eight fifty K and we tried it out a couple of different configurations and we're going to see just how well it performed when I put away that snobbery and gave it the fair chance that I think it really deserves it's absolutely no surprise that I am a little bit of a snob when it comes to the hardware parts that I prefer on my gaming PC's so instead of doing a long drawn-out benchmark video where I just throw some numbers up and let you guys figure it all out I kind of took a unique approach to this video I'm gonna tell you the frames per second average that I was getting here in battlefield 4 sorry guys I know some of you guys want to see other games I choose battlefield 4 because it's pretty much one of the most demanding games on the market next to Crysis 3 which I don't even own but anyway I digress so what I did was I pretended that I'm going to be a struggling college student working a minimum-wage part-time going to school full time with a very limited budget to see exactly how much performance you can squeeze out of every single dollar because I know plenty of you watching this video right now are shaking your head going yup that sounds like me going to school and make a minimum wage and I've got to go down to the Salvation Army to buy my clothes because I am just poor and broke trust me I've been there so being the poor college student that I am now hypothetically back in school again it's kind of nice to be young found the Fountain of Youth it's right here on YouTube take the a 1078 50k we use a data XP g v2 1600 megahertz ram overclocked to 2133 we also also overclocked the Kaveri a10 to 4.5 gigahertz we put it on an MSI a 88x i AC mini ITX motherboard we put it in a fractal node 304 and we put well I do have a water cooler on here but you guys could put a hyper 212 or something around the $25.00 range it's going to cool this apu just fine and it actually does fit in this case you could fit a hyper 212 or even a taller cooler in there and then we put just a basic cheapest 1 terabyte barracuda drive we could find in there it was about 59 bucks and there you go that is the entire system coming in at a grand total of 490 dollars that's less than five hundred dollars and it's able to play battlefield 4 at 30 frames per second pretty much consistent you would think I had some sort of a frames per second limiter going because it just said it 30 frames per second the entire time albeit on low settings I mean on medium we still were able to get 30 frames per second but it dipped down into the low to mid 20s at times which I didn't find to be unplayable but it definitely was noticeable a little bit of input lag now if you bumped up the IGP you allocated memory to 2 gigs and boosted the clock a little bit you got a little bit better performance but you know for less than $500 you can still play battlefield 4 and lesser demanding games without any problems whatsoever now what I did next was I assumed okay I'm a college student that I got a raise or I got more hours and I want to get more performance but did I lock myself into a guaranteed bottleneck path am I going to be able to upgrade this system without having to be concerned with buying a new CPU and motherboard and all of that well what I did next was I took a r7 250 and we put it in dual graphics mode in here and added the GPU now we gained about 10 frames per second more on average for about 40 to 45 frames per second on medium settings if you put it down to low it could actually go as high as the 70s now we all know on PC we want to take advantage of the better graphics performance of PC so I bumped it up to medium and got more frames per second at the same time now it's important to note that dual graphics is not like doubling your performance it's it's allowing your AI GPU and a standalone GPU and in this case this cost less than $100 in fact you could get for $80 different r7 250 s on the market and you now are still under $600 for a gaming PC that has dual graphics capability now being the incredibly nice guy and lovable character that I am I've decided to go ahead and give all of you guys raises all of you struggling college students you just got a raise and now you went out and you bought yourself a brand new r9 270 graphics card now it's a discrete graphics card it's decent on performance however it does not work in dual graphics so the question I asked myself was did we lose something now but no longer being able to utilize the internal GPU on our a10 well the answer is absolutely not and that's the part that surprised me now I'm sure the word popping in a lot of our heads right now is bottlenecking god I can't believe I just said that word now we all know that that word kind of makes me really upset so let's go ahead and try and limit its use in this video okay you got it looking at you back there fourth row second seat in from the left looking at you now because I am running the 14.4 beta drivers here for mantle it seems to be working that it's taken a lot of the hardware overhead in the API out of the equation and is allowing the GPU to be four more fully utilized by the APU for instance I'm currently got 85 89 87 86 90 frames per second going with high settings and two times MSAA running right now on this a10 with the r9 270 overclocked to eleven hundred and thirty megahertz so I'm actually getting better performance right now I on this APU and this graphics card with this API right now this mantle API that I was when I did the last comparison to this video when mantle first came out on my i5 from Intel so that goes to show that mantle is definitely doing something and by moving to a discrete graphics card we didn't lose any performance we're not bottlenecking it whatsoever okay okay I hear you guys yeah well you know you put a really strong graphics card in there what's going to happen well I'm glad you guys are thinking that because now we just got promoted to manager we bought ourselves gtx 780 now question is is the gtx 780 going to be held back at all by being put on an a-10 apu from AMD well let's go ahead install it right now and i'll let you guys see firsthand what the experience is really like now the cool thing about this upgrade path is the amount of money it took to get to the next level let's go ahead and talk about that real quick I know this is kind of turning into a long video but I think there's a lot of information here that's going to help a lot of you at making these decisions for yourself and turning you into a prosumer instead of being a consumer if you were to build out just the APU system and the same configuration I did which could also be cheaper you could go with a cheaper case and there are cheaper parts that you could buy it was 490 dollars less than 500 bucks now if you were to put in the r7 250 for dual graphics you're looking at about 580 dollars so still less than 600 bucks you're only looking at 90 dollars more and getting a little bit more performance now building out the r9 270 system allowed us to maintain all the same parts but we only spent six hundred and eighty dollars and we got discrete graphics which was clearly more powerful allowing us to bump our settings up to high and getting us into the 70 frames per second range now if you wanted to add a little bit extra like going with the SSD in there you're still looking at about 750 dollars by put adding in 128 terabyte SSD so 750 dollars you'd have yourself an amazing portable build like this power efficient doesn't get super hot and it can go to land parties travel with you and have all of your gaming capability and you're not even going to notice the difference between some sort of a higher-end system man it really blew my mind at just how capable this is and now I'm understanding what some of the future is going to be with AMD and I'm really hoping that they can come and bring some competition here to Intel because it's only going to help the industry as a whole for everybody to get better parts to compete with each other and allows us as consumers to really benefit in the battles brings prices down it brings performance up that's what we need in this market and the a-10 7850 K is certainly something that you should really consider looking at if you're on a very strict budget and you know what a month ago I wouldn't have said that because I didn't have the experience that I have tonight and the truth of the matter is this mini ITX system that you see back here not with the 780 when I put the 270 back in there that is going to be my permanent portable rig I'm not taking that apart I'm very very happy with his performance so guys have been Jays two cents obviously I can't cover everything there is to be about Kaveri there's just too much information to put into one video but we are going to be doing an update to this video a little bit in the future by utilizing some faster ramps from 24 hundred megahertz am and see just how much performance we can squeeze out of the internal GPU here on this a10 guys been Jays two cents I hope you've enjoyed this video share it with someone that you think it could help and as always I will see you in my next video