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what is going on YouTube you're watching J's to sense a lot of you guys have been tweeting me and messaging me and making comments and asking me for my opinion on the new FX 9000 series desktop processors unveiled by AMD this week at e3 there's a couple of things I just want to kind of start off right off the bat by saying one we have no benchmarks yet a lot of this information I'm about to give you is hardware based and then I'm gonna be giving you some speculative Ori predictions if you will on what to expect when it comes to the performance of the new AMD 9000 series FX processors at e3 this week AMD unveiled the FX 95 90 and the FX 90 372 brand new desktop processors designed to replace the FX 8350 and a 8320 which is currently their top-end processors now I wanted to make sure I had all my facts straight before I made this video so I did a little bit of research and here's what we know so far the 9000 series is based off of the current Vishera piledriver architecture it's also just important to note that these are both eight core processors there were no announcements for new six core or four core processors the way it works is AMD uses four core modules that have two physical cores each now what that means is they are using shared cache for both of those cores now because of this type of architecture it puts AMD just a little bit behind when it comes to core core performance when it comes to Intel but this is nothing new we already know this we've already known this through this 3770k and the hyper threading and especially the 35 70 K when it comes to single thread performance so the question is what exactly is it 95 90 and the 9370 bringing to the table it's kind of interesting to me that they're calling this the 9000 series when it's the exact same architecture as piledriver they are bashir based cores and is on the piledriver architecture so it's really curious how AMD went from the bulldozer architecture to the piledriver they kept the same 8000 series process that they just bumped it up from the 80 150 to the 80 350 so I don't know if this is just some sort of a marketing ploy where they're trying to make people think that something brand new but it's really not so when it comes to performance here are my predictions now for the rest of the video I'm going to go ahead and use the 95 90 as my FX processor for comparison and we're going to use 8350 when it comes to talking about the generational gap between the two the FX 8350 had a maximum speed of 4.0 gigahertz with a turbo core of 4.2 gigahertz so only a 200 megahertz jump with turbo mode engaged engaging of a dieter turbo makes the process that go so much faster whereas the FX 95 90 has a base clock of 4.7 gigahertz and it has a turbo clock of 5 gigahertz turbo and GAE now MD definitely has a track record of being first to reaching some of these processor milestones AMD was the first to break 1 gigahertz back in 2001 and AMD West first of the quad core processor back with the Phenom Series now a lot of people complained about how power-hungry the FX 8350 was because it has a hundred and twenty-five watt TDP compared to the 37 70s 77 watt TDP however the FX 95 90 jumps up all the way to 220 watt TDP Oh Mike holy that's more than some graphics cards are using now I don't see the enthusiasts AMD user being happy about this 220 watt TDP or nearly double what the current TVP is of the 8350 when it comes to their power bill especially when they're gaming or doing very heavy intensive tasks now before I get into my predictions here I want to go ahead and just start off by saying I was an FX 8350 user I was at FX 81 20 user and I was a phenom x4 965 Black Edition user so I have used the last three generations skipping the x6 series when it came to the t10 90 and the t 1100 but I do have experience with these processors now recently I did jump over to an Ivy Bridge processor 4 Intel but that's not to say that if AMD doesn't make huge leaps in the future that I wouldn't switch back I fortunately had the freedom to be able to kind of switch around my components as I see fit so I'd like to think of myself as being sort of like this triple Oreo right here it's chocolate and it's the white stuff I don't order what you call it early vanilla so I am coming from both sides of the fence because I have owned and used the top end of both of these series so I'm not speaking with a biased so I'm going to do my best to bring you guys the best speculation and prediction that I possibly can when it comes to the new FX series processors now because they're using bashir and they're using piledriver I've kind of got an idea of what it is that they've done here the higher TDP means to me that they probably seriously bumped up the factory voltage in the stock voltage to the CPU and they basically have hand-picked and cherry-pick the best silicon they found while manufacturing the pile driver or the 8350 series set it aside and now they're coming out with a basically a factory overclocked even though they're not calling it an overclock basically it's going to be a factory overclocked 8350 running five gigahertz turbo core Tegra and gauge it's probably going to end up shipping with some sort of an integrated or built-in water cooler system which is very similar to the antec or the H 50 H 60 series from Corsair where when the piledriver first came out that's the way they were shipping they had a water cooler built on with them now if AMD does go this route this means that they are definitely bumping up the stock voltage when it comes to the CPU it also means to me that's probably not going to have quite as much overclocking Headroom as a lot of people are expecting now I am expecting the 95 90s base clock of 4.7 and the turbo clock of 5 gigahertz to probably annihilate the 37 70 at its stock 3.5 gigahertz now the reason why I'm saying this is I have actually had my 8350 overclocked to 5.3 gigahertz now I've run Cinebench on both my FX 8350 and my 3770k in overclock trim including a couple of different overclock frequencies so you can see just held the benchmark scales with different overclocks now we'll go ahead and take a look at the 8350 first now you can see right here that I've got three different over clocks going 4.8 to 5.0 - and 5.05 what I want to show you here is just how much of a jump you get with only a couple of hundred megahertz at four point eight two gigahertz we got an eight-point-two forced an event score at 5.0 two gigahertz we got an eight point five two and at 5.05 only 30 gigahertz faster we got an eight point six six now you can see a difference of just two hundred and thirty megahertz brought the score up point four on Cinebench now let's go ahead and see how the over clocks compare when it to the Intel side of things now for some reason Cinebench is being very strange and it's not actually showing the speed that my processor was running in the highlighted area there so it's showing it running at the factory speeds of 3.5 gigahertz which just isn't accurate so I want to throw that out there right off the bat but the bottom score there of a nine point one four is my 24/7 overclock of four point seven gigahertz at one point two six volts the number three on there or the darker orange score of a nine point four four is at four point eight gigahertz so you can see there 100 megahertz difference on the overclock brought us up a whole point three on the score now there's a lot of people who've been able to get their 37 70s to five gigahertz I would have to assume that at five gigahertz the scored probably be somewhere near ten point oh but one thing you definitely want to keep in mind is that this is just a synthetic benchmark when it comes to day to day tasks playing games surfing on the net going to Facebook watching pornography doing whatever it is that you do you're not really going to see much of a difference between these two processors they boot in pretty much the exact same amount of time programs load and pretty much the same amount of time it really doesn't start to show its difference until I start rendering videos kind of like this one now my prediction for the 9000 series as I've already said it's going to look a lot like the scores that you're seeing here I'm practically willing to put money on that because of the fact that the architecture is the same my 8350 overclocked to five gigs is giving you basically the same performance you can expect to see on the Cinebench scores there's a couple questions that really matter when it comes to whether or not this processor is going to be important to you do you overclock and how much overclocking Headroom is there in these processors now my speculation here is AMD took some of the best performing silicon from this exact series the 8350 and set it aside and allowed them to make themselves sort of their own little niche socket series if you will just like nvidia did when it came with a Titan they're basically seven 80s that performed better than expected they came out with a boutique series of card called the GTX Titan and they charge more for now we have no idea what the 95 90 or the 93 70 is going to cost so whether or not this processor is worth it to you really is going to depend on the cost fortunately this isn't an three-plus processor so if you're on an older AMD board chances are you're going to be able to use it it may require BIOS update though some of the motherboards probably won't recognize is the factory speeds that are being sent to the motherboard motherboard BIOS can be scary for the average user but those are my predictions I'm predicting they won't overclock very far they're going to be very hot they're very power hungry that's not even prediction that's guaranteed just based on the way the TDP is on the box and I'm expecting them to look a lot like these scores that I've just shown you so let's just go ahead and wait and see they're not even going to be available to the public until later this summer and even then you're not going to be able to buy it in retail packaging like this until later on probably in the fall because all of these are being sent to integrated builders first companies like HP CyberPower ibuypower or cyber PC the Alienware I don't even know I don't think anywhere uses AMD but the bottom line is don't expect it to overclock very far and if it does and if it reaches something like five point five or even five point eight and God forbid six gigahertz then I think steamroller gosh depending on the performance of steamroller I might be joining team red once again damn being an addict just being sucks thanks for watching this video you guys requested it I brought it to you guys I hope you guys use this information and helps you when it comes to the future you're probably just confused as when you started this video about whether or not the new AMD series is worth buying you're going to have to wait we're gonna have to see the benchmarks but until then I think what I've just shown you here is a pretty good example what you can expect with the new FX 95 90 and 90 370 make sure you hit that subscribe button guys like favorite follow check me out on Twitter go to the Facebook page leave a comment and I will see you guys in my next video