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AMD R9 Nano - Small form factor becoming a thing?

2015-09-11
what's up guys Jays $0.02 here bringing you another graphic card review and I would try and tease you guys like you don't know what the card is gonna be about that way when I show it you're like oh my god that's all that coming um yeah you've probably read the title of this video at least I would assume that you did but anyway we're gonna be talking about what is probably gonna be considered one of the most powerful yet smallest graphics cards on the planet at least until the next most powerful smallest graphics card on the planet launches but today we're gonna be talking about the AMD fury nano I'm assuming it's called nano because it's really small in fact it's so small it can hide out behind the size of a regular graphics card there it is now just be honest the 980 kingpin that's not a very small card it's a pretty damn thick and heavy but this guy man that I actually fit this thing in my pocket and then girls started flocking to me it's really the new z170 classified motherboard from EVGA features eight phase-- PWM 4 Way SLI support along with top notch components to offer gamers and enthusiasts more of what they want badass motherboard with no compromises click the link below to learn more we will go ahead and mention the fact that this nano card is exactly the same specs as a fury X although it is much smaller it is not shaved down it has the same exact amount of stream processors the exact same memory bandwidth memory speed memory allocation the entire core structure is identical to what is on the fury X they just happen to make it really freakin small so I don't want to waste a lot of time talking about what would be very redundant information if you guys want to know more about the fury X which this is based upon then go ahead and watch this video right about here and then you can learn about that and then come back to this video and pick up where you left off because let's be honest oh my god sit here and wait for you to watch that video doesn't make this video way too long you'd get bored I'd get bored you'd leave I would probably leave before you would and then I would unsubscribe and never come back and that's that's probably what's gonna happen anyway aesthetically this card looks very similar to the fury X but it's actually quite different in fact where the fury X had that soft touch very very soft almost like a rubbery shroud on here this one it's just kind of a plastic I don't want to say a cheap plastic at that but it is a check plastic representation of what is actually on the fury X card you do have a single fan on here I want to say that this is gonna be about a 92 millimeter fan but it is fully shrouded and you do have zero glowing lights anywhere on here unlike on the fury X card where the Radeon Gloup Gloup glowed it glued it this is just a sticker it does not actually glow this does not glow you don't have any of the LEDs showing you the load on the card like you had with the fury X this is a very basic bare-bones cooler if you will it's got a single 8 pin PCI Express power on the back of the card which I personally feel is very disappointing and the reason why I say that is if you're gonna talk about how short a card is don't make the plug add length to the card because then you are gonna have to deal with an account for the plug coming off the back and the wire Bend radius which is gonna add at least another inch to an inch and a half on the back of the card put it on the top and then you can actually say that the card being super short is not going to be impeded by anything else in the case you stick the power plug on the back you just add it link to the card but there is some design thoughts inside the actual heatsink in this and that is that all of the heatsink rows actually run front to back and the concept for that is the fact that when the air is being blown down instead of taking the hot air that's being heated by the GPU and blowing it down on your motherboard inevitably heating up your motherboard when it's in your case it's gonna be exhausted out the rear inside the case technically that's the rear zoom exhausted out the rear out of the case and then towards the front into the chassis which will then be handled by your chassis cooling and it's not going to be heating up the components sitting near it so that's pretty much what's different about the Fury Nano let's go ahead and get into the benchmarks and talk about the numbers and then we'll talk about this card and where it belongs and why it exists because I think that's the biggest question I've seen at least going around them social media is why remember if you guys like these types of benchmarks and stuff where we talk about it you have to vote with that like button if you hate them then you can also vote with that like button just feel free to hit the like button anyway moving on here we're gonna be comparing the card here to several cards in the same price range as well as a couple cards below it and a couple of cards above it now way you can kind of get a sampling of what's happening with the performance of this card give or take about 100 to 150 dollars in either direction depending on your need for court clocks I did overclock this thing to 1080 megahertz even though AMD was really kind of dancing around the question about whether or not this is an overclocking card I mean they they did sort of say no it's overclocking was absolutely not in mind whatsoever when they built this card over in fact they under clocked it to a thousand megahertz as you can see right here to kind of make up for the power target the temperature target and the form factor so even though they said overclocking yeah not really supported well that's how we do things around here so damn it we overclocked at 80 megahertz because it kept crashing at 1100 but as you can see the speeds it is being compared to the other cards as we move forward the Tri X is running at 1120 and the fury X is running at 11:28 so there is a little bit of a percentage gap here in terms of core clocks between the fury X and the nano given the fact that they are the exact same core architecture that's not shaved down but we do have a forty eight megahertz difference here which is a few percent so I'm interested to see how that's gonna play out now for temperatures the Fury nano is topping out the chart at 81 but it's important to note this was overclocked this was not this was not passing 75 degrees Celsius at stock speeds now even though you have no core voltage control I did up the power limit which is inevitably going to add more voltage and so that's important to note it's 75 degrees Celsius is where it maxed out at stock speeds 81 while overclocked and you can see we got quite a range of temperatures most cards are landing somewhere in the 70s now you're gonna see a pretty kind of now you're gonna see quite the repeating pattern as we move forward in these charts and we'll talk about that so the Fury nano which I'll just here forth referred to as the nano coming in at 14 three three four four normal sixty seven oh five and thirty three sixty one for fire strike now we overclocked that and we go from the lower middle range to the upper middle range at sixteen three eighty three seven and six eighty four and three eight eight two four ultra now you're gonna notice that this card this nano tends to be following around the nine eighty classified everywhere it goes it's kind of kind of hanging out in the nineteen eighty classified shadow and you guys are gonna see that but they overclock even though only 80 megahertz did make quite a difference and bumped it up quite a few places in terms of performance they performed and it responded really well to even just a few megahertz of an overclock now Witcher 3 has definitely become the new crisis in terms of its difficulty to run and that's apparent right here where the Nano could not achieve a 60 FPS average frame rate with these ultra preset high post processing settings with hair works off an unlimited framerate so 57 is where it came in on the average 45 for 1440p and 27 for 4k clearly at these settings not playable at 4k overclocked that thing then we get over that magical 60fps number for 60 for 10 80 54 1440 and 31 for 4k again 4k not playable at these settings at that frame rate at least in my opinion that 31 fps was not very smooth in fact the minimums would go down into the single digit or the teens depending on the scene that was happening so it was definitely not very playable GTA 5 though then I had no problem achieving nearly 100 FPS or 98 average at 1080p 68 for 1440 and 36 for 4k once again not a playable number at these settings overclock the thing and then it comes up to a very respectable 106 FPS for 1080 76 for 1440 and 40 for 4k starting to get a little better on the 4k numbers but again you have to really pull down those settings to play 4k at reasonable consistent frame rates which is not bad considering its form factor honestly but the 92 Ti is up here in the 970 SSC sli for the same price just I mean pulled way ahead of the nano at the same price but then again a lot more heat a lot more power and a lot more real estate needed to run an SLI config Metro last light once again nano coming in at the middle of the pack at 105 average 410 AD 69 average for 1440 and 34 average for 4k overclocked it and as you can see once against right behind a classified overclock it it comes up to 119 1080p 77 for 1440 and 38 for 4k which is again very good these are very good numbers it's just one of those things where you know price to performance ratio is a little bit skewed given the fact that these cut the SSC you know the 970 SLI albeit 3.5 gigabytes of vram is still beating it in every single test by a lot so that's one thing to keep in mind I mean I know I know 4 gigabytes means 4 gigabytes but you know 148 FPS is also 140 at FPS so we'll go with that but then again you gotta give it credit where credit is due for being such a tiny card to sit where it's sitting on these charts Crysis 3 and had no problems at stock speeds giving you more than 60 FPS average at very high presets very high system specs and MSAA turned on giving you 49 FPS 1440 66 1080 in 25 4k overclocked the thing and it gets even better at 74 FPS average 1080p 55 for 1440 and 28 for 4k not a playable number in 4k in any of these tests so far far cry 4 used to be a pretty demanding game but as you can see the cards are having no problems running especially when you overclock the nano at stock speeds 80 FPS 1080p 53 FPS for 1440 and 28 FPS for 4k overclocked it goes from the middle bottom middle to the upper middle near the top at 89 fps 1086 D fps magical number at 1440 and 31 FPS for 4k again trailing the fury X which is expected and trailing all over the 980 T is which are bigger more power hungry cards and then bf4 I did do as well and bf4 as I thought it would but I guess compared to the other cards compared to the Tri X and the fury X and all that those guys are all kind of sitting right here just really setting up shop in the middle of the charts as you guys can see so the Nano 128 FPS at 1080p for ultra preset 91 for 1440 and 51 for okay pretty much playable frame rates for all of the test and then you overclock it it gets even better 132 1080 98 for 1440 and 57 for 4k so it's really set up shop in the middle of the chart and if you look at all of these charts you'll see the nano nano middle nano and nano middle of the chart GT a middle of the chart Metro way to love the chart crisis middle of the chart far cry middle of the freight gang chart and battlefield 4 middle of the chart so let's go ahead and talk about this card though because the numbers are only part of the story if this card was set out to be you know a monster card that was just gonna try and compete with everything in its class well that would be called the AMD fury X so anyway let's go and talk about this card let's that's let's discuss where it belongs why it was created and whether or not this is a card you need for your build well as you guys saw in the benchmarks this card pretty much took up shop in the middle of the charts and just stayed there the entire time and that's where I have to wonder if the price point to the performance based on the four factor makes a lot of sense there's a lot of groaning and moaning going on already on the social sphere of people saying it's too expensive yeah it's 649 bucks exact same price as the fury X but gives you a lot less features no lights but that was my ring I didn't break it I swear compared to the fury X you really are getting a lot less I mean obviously it's smaller but the fury X is already a really small card so bear with me here but other than that you you aren't getting a whole lot in terms of the same features you get for the fury X for the same price because we're AMD is banking on is that you as a customer are going to pay that premium of 650 bucks for the same core and as much smaller form factor albeit performing a less than the fury X all around there on every single test is seeing performed lesser than the fury X which I guess does make sense now I also noticed that this card is supposed to start at least according to the press kit this card is not supposed to start doing any sort of core engine broadening until 85 degrees Celsius that wasn't my case whatsoever on this and I I tried to figure this out no idea why this was happening but at stock speeds all stock no overclocking or anything and at only 75 degrees Celsius I was getting quite a bit of core fluctuation all the way down into the mid 800 s on the core down from a thousand so I have no idea why it was throttle and now remember the BIOS on this thing is pretty locked down there's no voltage control you do have a power target controller power limit controlling percent but that didn't make any difference I continue to get a lot of throttling from 1000 down to 864 megahertz I believe that is a huge decrease in percentage and performance now even though I overclocked it to 1080 and bumped up that power limit all the way as high as it would go which is a plus 50 it's still throttled but only went up and down about 20 degrees versus the hundred and thirtysomething degrees megahertz the only weapon down about 20 megahertz versus the hundred and thirty some-odd megahertz it was fluctuating a stock I have no idea why that was happening even though overclocked it was running hotter it was not fluctuating as much now of course I went into MSI Afterburner logs and tried to look and see well maybe we were hitting our power limit and that's why it was fluctuating power limits not actually visible on this BIOS I guess because MSI Afterburner was not able to tell me what the power limit was it's not even an option for monitoring maybe it's because the cards too new I don't know so I can't tell you why it was throttling but I wanted to at least let you know it was throttling much much sooner than it should have and that was obviously affecting a lot of the benchmarks at stocks beats so that's something to keep in mind now it was at this moment when editing I realized I forgot to get a video at least a high quality video of the coil whine with this card because we know that the coil whine with the fury ex was a problem but I did happen to do an Instagram video so if you follow an Instagram you've already seen this but otherwise go ahead and have a listen to B coil whine that was apparently non-existent with the fury X and listen to it on the fury nan-oh but like I said obviously AMD is banking on the fact that you're willing to pay 650 dollars for a card that's this tiny I'm not sure there's that many people out there shopping for a card this small I've built several ITX systems in the last couple of years alone and I never had a problem fitting a fairly standard length card in there anyway the card really does perform very well for its form factor the question is if does the form factor need to exist this market is is it's not very established there's not a lot of ITX form factor cards and I don't know what the sales data is to show for the 970 ITX and then super small cards that have existed before on whether or not there are people out there really purchasing super tiny cards like this it seems like a lot of manufacturers will make a PCB that's super small like the the geforce gtx 750 and then they make it bigger because the customer wants to show off their big powerful card right big powerful card but i don't know you guys tell me i build big giant systems that i like to look at but maybe you don't so i'm really curious as to what the general consensus is are you willing to go with a super tiny card in a super small case or as gamers do you want to show off with lots of lights and lots of bling in water cooling tubes and stuff and say I am a gamer I am proud and I'm loud to have a big giant computer or is this what you're after AMD's banking that enough people want this to make it exist I guess time will tell and you guys can sound off in the comments and let me and AMD know if an ITX form factor form factor graphics card is really something that you're after because if you are well that's the most powerful one that you can get but at the same token it's not a lot of options maybe in the next year or two especially as HBM Gen 2 comes out maybe small form-factor is the future anyway time to get out of here guys thanks for watching this video a little longer than normal as always grab this card videos I like to get in-depth but you guys can head on over to social media or you can go to my blog channel which I'm reviving and you can get at me that way tell me how you guys feel about this card I prefer that you do it on social media or Twitter or something like that but put it down in the comments as well we'll see you in the next one guys and as always thanks for watching
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