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some of you have noticed that there has been a little bit of a lack of a and B discussion this week at CES especially since they have their keynote with some really high-level teaser Rison to or then to Raisa and 3rd gen which is weird a3 is the - in this case a guide I guess they also talked about the new Radeon 7 which is the seventh animated version of Vega well some might say we saved potentially the best early first we've got to thank our sponsor and of course that is Coursera in the Corsair one high performance desktop PC the i-140 eye 160 and eye 180 to be found in the link in description below so one of the things that's really hard to do with these trade shows where you get very high level information very lock down demos is a true opinion on a product so we're gonna kind of hold off on that but there's a discussion I want to have in this video a little bit later on so please stick around but I really do want to see your comments down below but before we kind of talk about performance they do have some demos here I'm going to kind of take a quick look around the card and what's different from Vegas 56 and Vegas 64 which has a very similar design at obviously the most major changes you can see is they went with a triple fan design by kind of getting rid of the blower style cooler we saw in video do this too but obviously they have a dual fan solution this is a triple fan by just truly dropping the blower style cooler and going with the multi fan so it's solution like this you can get more power and a lot more control over thermals by doing this obviously as you can see though they also have a very dense thin array in terms of the amount of heatsink fins that are on this card by doing so they've greatly improved the thermal capacity of the cooler I saw a lot of comments back when in Vega 56 and 64 launched that they loved the raw aluminum brushed aluminum look the backplate in my opinion is one of the best back plates on the market in terms of aesthetics the only thing that's different between this card and the actual production card because this is an engineering sample as they've removed the logo from the back so it's going to be a very clean aesthetic looks pretty much identical to the Vega 64 with the black bracket right here we've got our black bracket on the back and this is not a dual BIOS card though although the Vegas 64 and 56 did have dual by us this one does not appear to I don't see any switches anywhere on this but I mean you can still pretty much overclock this card plate and curves and all that stuff using the adrenaline software now it's got dual eight pin power plugs on the back so you could definitely have to pair this thing with a pretty decent power supply but you should do that any time you're shopping talk to your anyway in my opinion though more power than you think you need that way obviously you are run into any issues there but other than that it still is very reminiscent and derivative of the very clean and very minimalistic approach to the design of the cooler and the graphics card as a whole from Vegas 64 now in terms of specs it's actually a not only a die shrink in terms of seven nanometer but it's also a stream processors shrink so it's got thirty eight hundred and forty stream processors that's hard to say speed price to 50 so instead of 4096 stream processors this has three hundred three hundred and eighty that's really reduced no 3840 it's also instead of 64 see use hence the Vegas 64 it's got 60 so it's kind of interesting that overall the die is I kind of shrunk in all those aspects but the performance is up in fact they are boasting a r-tx 2080 level of performance in obviously standard games stuff not r-tx that's a whole different discussion to have on a different day when we get more hands-on on this but it has a got an increased boost clock and turbo clock or moose clock turbo clock base clock across-the-board that's where they're getting a lot of their performance improvements so we've got 16 gigabytes of HBM to unhear up from the 8 gigabytes down on the biggest 64 and up quite a bit from before found on the old fury and fury x but yeah it's one the same that's like does more screen buffer makes sense well I guess that depends on who you ask obviously the game developers would love to have his Green buffer as possible because then that becomes less of a limitation and they one of the launch partners for this card is the division two and they've got the developers here on site talking about the game obviously some of the technologies involved like it's got to improve AC furnace compute but they've even said that they have seen in 4k which has definitely been making a push over the last couple years be more mainstream that it can use you know 10 gigabytes 11 gigabytes of screen screen buffer pretty easily but with it's 4096 bit memory bus you can have up to one terabyte per second 3-foot on the memory so memory is obviously a huge focus with with Radeon graphics now it's going to head on over here to the division 2 demo we'll do a quick demo on that and then just a very quick food for thought discussion at the end this is a demo of the division 2 and what kind of really sucks about this is they didn't activate Windows it's not activated the problem with demos is the fact that they're extremely locked down they're not final so I hate to I always reserve opinion of anything that is not final until its final because it's not fair to anyone involved when you have early access stuff because things aren't optimized the title obviously has some room for improvement we're not gonna see this reach retail until March so yeah reserve any of those opinions on performance until things are done and even it says right here work in progress the first thing I wanted to see what are the specs what are they running out well we know they're running 4k but if you go to the settings you can see all you can do is change controls you can't change any of the settings so I have no idea what the anti-aliasing level is I have no idea what type of AAA is running I have no idea what like the post-processing effects are but anyway in terms of perceived smoothness it is very smooth but I would expect nothing less at this level of graphics with this type of frame buffer in obviously a launch party partner title so that's where we got to see how it handles other titles and games that are pre-existing rather than ones that are designed with the card in mind during development now it's going to talk about something that I've intentionally reserved this video to the end of the week we had this meeting with AMD much earlier in the week and I basically said I want to reserve my opinion on this one until I have the card in hand obviously but - I wanted to really watch what the audience was saying I was very curious because everyone was expecting because of I think unnecessarily on air leaks Navi right now and that's obviously not what this is this is a this is a generational improvement to an existing product and because of that a lot of people I think we're being extremely unfair to AMD by saying well know that what I thought we were getting a 250 dollar card that was supposed to destroy the r-tx 2070 you may or may not see that this year in 2019 but what I was really concerned with and I wanted to see what people were saying is about realistically the price increase this is a price increase versus Vega 64 Vega 64 unfortunately was plagued with production costs issues versus retail pricing and was very cutthroat with the Pascal series from Nvidia and video launch to 1070 TI right around the same time intentionally to fill that gap at that performance per dollar figure which made it very difficult for Vega to really kind of get legs and become very widely adopted because supply was impossible it's hard to get a card it really was and then getting yet to buy it with bundles and and so a lot of people were really mad at AMD you know about a year and a half ago so I wanted to see if people were just as upset at this and pride this price increase of about $100 but at the end of the day you are getting something tangible for it that you would be able to experience at the time of launch versus being a technological thing that you're expecting that for that extra money with Nvidia where you got to see titles come online taking advantage of a hardware level improvement where this is something developers could update have backwards compatibility with old titles to take advantage of some of these newer technologies you know the asynchronous compute improvements and all that sort of stuff so I'm really curious as to how you guys feel is the hundred dollars a deal-breaker for you for this card at 700 being pretty much one of the most expensive AMD mainstream cards that's ever been developed or are you guys okay with it and that's just food for thought I want to know what you guys feel if you are upset at one brand for a price increase but not another it comes down to whether or not the price increase gives you value so that's where I want you guys to chime in down below anyway here we are at CES 2019 wrapping up our show with the AMD booth and I'm excited I'm excited to see where this goes because I've preached it a million times we need the competition obviously AMD has been competing in the CPU space and really really getting back that market chair which is great it's great for all parties we need the same thing on graphics so guys tell me what you think in the comments down below and as always thank you to Coursera for sending here for CES 2019 that's a wrap for us thanks for watching we'll see you guys in the next one I'm going home