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what's up everyone James $0.02 here what a crazy week it's been regard any time there's a new launch where there's always drama and stuff but the latest drama has been the multi-core enhancement that appears to be on by default on various motherboards I did a video about that please check that out before moving forward with this one because this is a direct this video exists because I had to do that which means now I have to do this because the other thing that was brought up was well jf the indie 700k was unfairly running at 4.7 gigahertz which is not the out of the box experience intended by Intel but yet one that the motherboard manufacturers have basically artificially applied then doesn't that mean you're Rison versus 8700 K a test is flawed as well and yes you're absolutely right do you want to be cooler do you want to be more desirable well you're in luck because right now you can own your very own JS to sense swag and immediately be the cool kid on the block max out your sex appeal by following the link down below so after I did the MCE video of course I got an email from Asus that was like whoa whoa whoa J I just watched this video something's not right because in your video and they showed a little screenshot they're like you show that sink all Kors is enabled and that's not on by default and I'm running the latest retail BIOS by the way guys I dated the BIOS with the latest retail when we did the initial test video and they were perplexed because I went no no no no optimized defaults goes MCE to auto and sync all cores by default so what you see here right now is the way I'm going to do my test but watch this if I hit f5 load optimized defaults and we're gonna go ahead and you just you can see it just did it right there but I'm gonna go ahead and restart so that we can reload the BIOS and I'm gonna show you that it's on by default which ASIS was sort of challenging me and yeah this is the kind of stuff that's happening here when a company doesn't even know what the defaults are internally and some people would is I don't know so whatever if we go over here to the Advanced Mode AI Tweaker and we look right here multi core enhancement is set to auto and core ratio sink off-course that's the default and that's where the fault was because what ended up happening right there is set all the chorus to 4.7 gigahertz when the 8700 K is supposed to run 4.3 gigahertz under load on the sixth core CPU that was a 400 megahertz overclock out of the box which definitely skewed our numbers versus rise it now the overclocked numbers are what they are that was a manual I don't expect that to change some people questioned about me using the air cooler there not to a cooler here on the Rison system and to that I said temperatures were not a problem some people wanted me to verify that we were indeed running 29 33 megahertz which I will do but with all the talking under the way we're gonna go ahead and redo the test now you understand the ideology of why I have to redo the test and we'll see how much different things actually are alright so I just spent the better part of the day benchmarking all over again good results actually and you know what I know I said I wasn't gonna benchmark the over clocks again but I decided to go ahead and just do it again because I didn't want to leave any room for undue scrutiny if you will because this I mean might as well had the due diligence since I messed up the first time it's actually a good thing though that I revisited the over clocks because I recalled a few of you pointing out in the original video that when the board was cycling after I applied the overclock and I was going another thing cycling it's being weird when I booted I made sure that it was actually running at the three point nine in the last test but I didn't verify the memory because once I saw that the three point nine was applied I just assumed that the BIOS settings that put in there had applied and some of you guys were like no no you need to go back and check it because reisen's weird with memory and sometimes it will revert the memory speed but leave the core speed and I'm used to I'm used to BIOS where basically if anything fails and it reverts everything not just a part of it and that's exactly what happened so kudos to you that pointed that out we did do the benchmarks again with this running at 29 33 and 3.9 gigahertz and the results definitely improved the whole point of retesting these CPUs though was to check for redundancy and accuracy and obviously things have changed now although the 1700 X at its base settings even 20 133 megahertz it really stumped the 8700 K and the reason for that is Cinebench r15 pretty much scales perfectly with cores and that's one of the reasons why I like 3d mark is something that scales perfectly with SLI practically yeah so on the surface if Cinebench was the only test we did it would look like the Rison system is the clear winner across the board but that's not really the case right in handbrake the Intel system was a few seconds faster again not really noticeable differences I mean a minute 32 versus a minute 35 blender 526 versus 513 the Rison system actually won in blender times 5 we got a 7700 even on the rise end system and a 77 46 on the Intel system again differences you would never notice but when it comes to rise of the Tomb Raider though there was a significant difference in fps like 30 FPS difference right we got 165 FPS with the 1080 Ti oh yeah if you guys notice I had Titan X's on here earlier I put the tendencies back on because that was the test we did originally but anyway regardless we had a hundred and sixty-five FPS with Tomb Raider and 135 FPS with the rising system and if you notice the numbers are different than the first test that's because I actually added SMA a in this test where I had FXAA on before because I wanted to try and put a little bit more load on the GPU and see if those numbers came closer together but it really didn't so yeah although SMA is not nearly as demanding as like SSA or super sampling I just wanted to see what would happen with that one setting the difference here is how they compare to each other not how they compared to the previous test so that's important there and then premier note no surprise there the Intel system just dominated the Rison system and that's simply because core clock is king when it comes to premiere so we had 7 minutes 47 seconds to render a 4k 2 minute 4k video on the Intel system and 9 minutes and 15 seconds on the Rison system and once you overclock the system's everything just kind of scoots along right on it everything comes down but the again the intervals kind of stayed the same the rise in revolt results came up significantly though because the Infinity fabric definitely benefits from memory speed because that's how it communicates so we saw a much better improvement on the rise in system but of course the Intel was still beating it but you know I'm not here to tell you which which you should buy that's not what I'm here to do I'm here to just give you some of the information and try and make it as accurate as possible I failed in that last video is I know it starting to look like I do the failed videos on purpose just so I can come back and do another video about it I promise that's not the case I don't want to do the work two times three times four times I just want to be honest with you guys and that's the whole reason why I do it but I will tell you what I think is a better bargain I still think the 1700 X is a better bargain which I said in that previous video but now seeing how much the Intel came down actually with the four point three versus the four point seven then it's definitely a bargain with the 1700 X although once you overclock the 8700 K which you should be doing because it's a ksq it's the whole reason why it's there then you definitely do get your money's worth but it's a hot CPU so you need to make sure you have adequate cooling remember the Rison system achieved all of this comparative with a water-cooled 8700 k in an air-cooled 1700 X you can get this CPU with this cooler for the same price of only the CPU and we're running a hundred and what $30 cooler they're $120 cooler whatever it is so they're the results kind of speak for themselves there was one other test I was gonna do though but I decided it's a stupid test it's a waste of time and I'm not gonna do it and that is I always get these comments saying J which you should really do is is underclock the Intel so that you can see how it's really comparing to the Ryan system and it's like you know what why would I do that no one is gonna go into their Intel system and undervolt it or underclock it no one's gonna do especially 8700 K I think for science purposes it'd be neat but then what do I do I do I then go into the Rison system and disable two cores I'm maybe I guess I don't know so yeah I mean it's eight cores versus six course it is what it is anyway guys I'm gonna go I apologize for the inaccurate results in the previous video moving forward you're not gonna see this test miss messed up again because right fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me only three times I quit alright guys I'm gonna go you