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what's up guys James two-cent here and I wasn't planning on really doing this video but a lot of you guys asked me if I would talk about this now I'm going to preface this with saying I have no insider information that's the only reason I'm even doing this video if I did I wouldn't be able to do this video but we're gonna talk about a few things we got AMD and Intel now which definitely seem to be in a cores race which which brink put out CPUs with the most cores for high-end desktop so that's we're gonna talk about today well should you buy what should you buy and is all of this even matter to the mainstream consumer ok it's the best part right here watch it watch it guys this new selfie Assessor you stick some faculty design yeah so but do you know what it does yeah makes things cool yeah cooler hey guys this is Austin and today I am super excited to be doing a video with the one it only makes you sense yo I am excited here so what are we doing today we're going to review the Celsius s 36 I get that a lot today what's up sure I could give you some workout tips how's tomorrow sound awesome later you the new Celsius as 36 can make almost anything cooler almost I'm so cool so it's going to start off with the official news and II obviously has debuted or talked about their thread Ripper CPU I don't know I think that's that's a really bad name first of all I mean this is my new it doesn't really matter what the name is but thread Ripper I mean you guys see guardians of the galaxy it's like Jayde's or various like what's the stupidest name we could come up with but anyway I digress that's I just was like a thread Ripper come on alright so they talked about their 16 core 32 thread Boheme it basically it sounds like they took the architecture of two 1800 X's and just shove them together like that just like babies are made I'm using my notes here but it looks like we've got two 16 core 32 thread thread rippers the 1998 x that's a good year that was my senior year in high school anyway the agitated myself and of course we got the 1998 which is a non x2 both 16 core 32 thread 3.5 gigahertz base clock shows a 3.9 gigahertz boost clock on the X model with a 3.6 gigahertz I mean on X model we don't have any information yet as to l3 cache or how many PCIe lanes on any of these CPUs 155 watt TDP on that so obviously it's a it's going to be power-hungry what do you expect from 16 cores 32 thread but anyway moving down the line we get this 1977 X in 1977 that's a 14 core 28 thread so basically guys that's pretty we got 10 core 20 thread 12 or 24 thread 14 and 16 core obviously with double the threads looks like they all are boosting to write about 3.7 to 4.1 the highest boosting when we got here is the 1977 which is a 14 by 28 so the timing of this is really interesting Intel is expected to be launching their new X 299 platform in June or Computex or around there which is pretty traditional usually can't be Texas where a lot of this stuff is debuted so it's no surprise to me that AMD is trying to kind of head off some of the Intel marketing and saying look at what we've done and they've also promised summer availability on this and the Intel side of things seems to be a lot less excited so that I'm citing anatec form here because they are the ones that are showing this so that's the information I'm going off of here we've got I 979 20x skylake X it's a 12 core 24 thread we don't have any information yet on base clock or boost clock it's got sixteen point five Meg's of l3 cache and it has got 44 PCIe lanes 140 watt TDP so it looks like AMD if 155 watt TDP on the 16 core 32 thread thread Ripper is accurate then it looks like that they have actually pulled out so magic with their efficiency at least where they can have four additional physical threads for only additional 15 watts to TDP that's actually not bad we've also got the seventy nine hundred X which is a ten core twenty thread very similar to the sixty nine fifty X but obviously on skylake X now moving down the stack we got the seventy eight twenty X now that's an eight core sixteen thread CPU so very similar to the sixty nine hundred K and the 59 60 X both of which I have and have been using but here's where things start to get interesting both of the 60 100 K and 59 60 X have 40 PCIe lanes however on this they've shaved it down to 28 so very similar to what they did with the 5820k and trying to as these differentiate the stack in terms of cost and and where they were they line up in terms of their hierarchy the 28 lanes of PCI Express Lanes was actually a problem for people who are trying to do multi graphics cards or 3-way SLI which was supported at the time wouldn't work very well at all on a CPU that only had 28 lanes in fact a lot of motherboards had to have two sets of manuals where it was like if you're using a 28 Lane CPU use these Lots if you're using a 40 Lane use they slot so I find it interesting that the previous like top tier is now like they're shaving PCIe lanes and they're doing an intentional obviously which I think really sucks because PCIe lanes are important when you're running multiple graphics cards and especially now with PCIe nvme SSDs a lot of people are using the PCIe bus because it's direct to the CPU the very high throughput and now you're going to be limited on that so I feel that that if that's true and accurate but that's a bit shady so we got the 7800 K or the 1700 X below that which is a 6 core 12 thread surprise are still offering 6 thread options and then we got the 77 40 K which is where the ice seven lineup stars that's just a slight bump of improvement to the 7700 K but it's KB Lake X 4 cores 8 threads 8 megabytes of cache like 16 PCIe lanes and then the 76 40k 4 cores for thread very similar to the 7600 kit so slight increments there now let's talk about this what we have here guys that AMD is finally on the map they're on the map not only in core count but performance we saw that with Ryan there's no surprise there the arguments are going to continue and they always will continue just like Chevy and Ford you know and it's just always going to be there so all of that aside let's talk about who these CPUs really talk to and who would need them because I feel like a lot of the audience especially on my channel tends to only look at things through like a monocle or a single lens where they're like all I care about is gaming and for gaming these don't make much sense at all there's very few games out there that would utilize those very few games out there they're usually utilizing the 16 threads available or the 20 threads available on Intel today about 32 threads on AMD that's insane but what if what if you are a software developer what if you're dealing with a lot of virtual machines and you have to start slicing up that CPU and allocating it to different virtual machines so that it looks like multiple CPUs well then the more threads you have the better what if you're a live stream or what if you want to have lots of threads available to be able to sit you could the cool thing about this you can do this now but the more threads available the more benefit there is to this you could set the affinity in programs to where you can have certain programs have allocated certain cores so that they're kind of independently handling tasks as like separate little carved up CPUs sort of similar to a VM machine but they're not going to start crossing over tasks see right now when you're doing something that's multi-threaded the load is constantly moving around and being spread through all the cores but you divide those cores up you can have your live stream software using only this portion of a CPU the game using only this and then have the rest left over for other resources that the system needs with having a lot more seamless integration of these programs by having more course so if you're a live streamer or project development product developer or software developer especially if you're doing things like vm machines then you could certainly take advantage of that but this is not something that meant towards mainstream this is not mainstream the prices on that are going to have to be expensive now if if pricing model tells us anything the 69 50 X which is 10 cores and 20 threads from Intel cost $1,700 is ridiculous 1700 bucks if they're adding two cores and four threads are they going to just bump up the price from 1700 or are they going to be forced to finally acknowledge that AMD has arrived again and they have to start to compete for a little bit of that market share because I think Reisman shows a lot of people were willing to go with a platform that's brand new and deal with some of the growing pains along with that for the value because you were getting 69 hundred K performance for half the price so what's the price of thread Ripper going to be what's the 1998 X going to be is it going to be twice the price of a 1800 X if so that's only $1000 that's still $700 cheaper that's just hypothetical I have no pricing information but that's only 700 OS cheaper than the current 10 core offering on Intel the best thing to do right now is just wait sit on your money right now is a terrible time to buy enthusiast hardware because we have new platform coming out guys for both Intel and AMD the reason even making this video though is because a lot of people wanted my take on this and here's the problem as I'm still only getting the same second and third-hand information that you guys are based through either leaks when it comes to Intel or and again the credibility of leaks that's always the bigger concern then of course the very high level information we've received from AMD's live streams so I don't know I'm telling you right now guys I think May is the worst month to buy hardware for CPU architecture Computex is the world stage for PC components and that's where companies like AMD and Intel truly come out with the best they have to offer for that year in that generation so don't buy anything right now unless you're looking at buying more lower end mainstream like 7600 K I mean 7600 K versus that 76 40 K I don't think you're going to see much difference it's gonna be like the Haswell vs. Devil's Canyon thing again where there's probably not much reason to wait around there like a 7700 K versus a 77 40 gay or whatever it was unless they fix maybe some of the thermal issues with the bad Tim application again like has well all over again then just wait because at the very least you have to hope the pricing is going to change I don't know the balls and entails court now as far as I'm concerned because pricing is everything market share is as much about pricing as it is about performance so just wait that's my two cents on this guy's boom I nailed I always wanted to say that's my two cents and actually you know I've never really said that before have I neck yeah I've never really said that's my two cents also as you can see we made some changes here to the studio it's finally coming together and it's feeling like a studio so tell me to think about the look and feel but that said I'm going to get out of here guys thanks for listening to my two cents today I did it again and I'm going to Cameron do me a favor in the comments try and keep it civil but I'm concerned I'm only one I'm only one perspective I'm only one person with one opinion you guys are the masses you guys are the ones that make the difference in this whole genre so in the comments section below very civilly I know it's hard say what you would buy and why let's hypothetically say that the pricing comparison stays like it is right now we're Intel's twice as expensive as the offering from AMD are you willing to jump on a new platform again by AMD and take the risk at less cost or do you want to stick with what's been tested and then ingrained and just has a good foothold in the in the market that is currently Intel sound off in the comments you guys are the majority so you guys are the ones that determine what happened in the future see you later guys thanks for watching