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hey what's going on guys J here with Jays two cents bringing you a video about these two guys once again as if this horse hasn't been beaten to absolute death we're gonna go ahead and we're just gonna beat it a little bit more oops it doesn't matter whether or not you're an old school builder like me or a new school builder looking at building your first computer we all are just constantly up in arms about whether or not you should go with AMD or Intel the industry is constantly changing and it doesn't help but you have fanboys on both sides trying to lure you in to their side to strengthen their numbers or whatever the reason may be don't understand fanboys to be honest with you so today we're going to talk about how much it really does cost you to go with AMD versus Intel in terms of power consumption and just how long it'll take for you to make your money back if you choose to go with the more power efficient Intel so that's why for today's video we're going to go ahead and talk about the energy consumption and we're going to turn it into energy dollars on your energy bill and find out just how much you really do or don't save when it comes to going with Intel / AMD now I'm going to try and make today's video as easy to understand as possible we are going to be talking about numbers and equations and values so it might go a little quickly for some people but I'm seriously gonna do my best to make it as understandable as possible now we've got two arguments kind of going on here one AMD is more power inefficient than Intel and that is absolutely true AMD does use more watts than Intel and when you overclock both CPUs the difference becomes even greater AMD takes more energy to overclock so that's why for the sake of today's tests we are going to talk about stock clocks vs. / clocks and we're going to compare those in two separate scenarios to try and determine how much money you're really going to spend extra on your energy bill by going with AMD the system wattages we're talking about full system wattage from the wall and these are just the cpu loads we're not talking about GPU that's a whole ball game it's a whole nother layer to this whole equation about which is more efficient and once again you have different options there as well so for the sake of today's video you're talking about cpu load only now because wattage is one of those things that is just is it's a hardest variable to control because everyone systems are different everyone has a different number of fans different power supply different motherboards different drives installed it could vary all over the place so what I did was I went to the most common tech forms like bit tech hard OCP overclock dotnet Tom's hardware and I took their benchmarks and their charts and I just averaged them out to give me an average system wattage to use for the sake of my test now for the 4770k wattage from the wall at stock speeds it was 176 watts from the wall at stock speeds and when you overclock it it's about 251 watts from the wall so that is our 4770k system for today's educational piece now the AMD side the 8350 at stock was pooling 213 watts from the wall and overclocked was pulling 328 watts from the wall remember these are averages so that's we're going to be using for today now for the kilowatt rating because remember guys we are talking about your power bill and again that's another variable that I have no control over some people pay as little as seven cents per kilowatt hour some people pay as high as 28 cents maybe even more per kilowatt hour depending on your region here in Southern California our averages are actually much higher than what I'm using for this test but the national average is about fourteen cents per kilowatt hour so that's what we're going to go with here now remember guys these wattages are full load wattages we don't care about idle because quite honestly idle is so low it would take years and years in using news and years for it to even come into play when it comes to cost difference of these CPUs so we are going to be using a 14 cents per kilowatt hour at 4 hours per day load 100% load at 365 days per year gives us a nice baseline kind of a high baseline but it gives us kind of a worst case scenario of what energy costs could be for this so that's 4 hours per day 365 days a year 14 cents per kilowatt hour now in Intel at 176 watts at stock speed we have an average energy usage of 35 dollars and 97 cents per year I put that up here somewhere I don't fail and post-edit because you know like I kind of leave notes to myself here like number J when you dump the video you have to go buy milk kitty litter and summa mentionable now for the AMD for the same system at stock speeds we are looking at forty three dollars and fifty four cents per year so that gives us a cost difference between AMD and Intel of 7.50 seven cents per year now when you overclock it we already know that the gap gets bigger between the energy usage of the two CPUs so overclocked to four point eight gigahertz on both of those systems we had an Intel usage fifty one dollars and thirty cents per year and AMD was sixty seven dollars and four cents per year for a cost difference of fifteen dollars and seventy four cents per year Energy Bill effect AMD versus inta so right about now you should be able to start seeing that that Intel fanboy ISM argument of I don't go with AMD don't do it it uses so much more energy it is gonna cost you a billion dollars more the end of the year you don't want to do that it'll give you tumor big huge tumor we're fighting two choppers I sincerely apologize for that now that was just stock speeds if you overclock it you make the gap a little bit bigger the numbers get a little bit better but you're still talking eight point nine years to make your money back that you spent on going with Intel over AMD if you use the argument of power consumption it's not a valid argument people I don't care who you are I do not care if the Pope himself or Barack Obama says go at Intel because it saves energy you're gonna spend more money out-of-pocket and you're going to upgrade long before you ever saw any of those returns on your energy costs now remember that's four hours per day 100% full load I don't think anyone does that not even me as a YouTube producer and I'm constantly rendering something on my machines doesn't even come close to that and if you have a lower like that tense per kilowatt-hour average it's going to take even longer more than 20 years to get your money back by spending a hundred and forty dollars more on Intel if the sole purpose was to save energy on your energy bill it just doesn't make sense people now if you're one of those few fortunate people like myself who happen to live near a Micro Center the numbers are a little bit better but still staggering for instance if you paid two hundred and sixty-nine dollars for your 4770k from Micro Center versus the hundred and seventy nine dollars you could have gotten to 83 54 it's going to take eleven point nine years to make your money back by going Intel or if you overclock at five point seven two years over the AMD if your overclocked now the five point seven two years some of you watching this video may have actually owned your computer that long many of us have not I tend to do an upgrade annually so I would never use the energy consumption argument when it comes to why you would choose Intel over AMD now that's not to say that Intel doesn't have its benefits over AMD and vice versa there are a ton of arguments on both sides of the fence many of them very very valid but with the amount of people that ask me on a daily basis and we're talking probably a dozen messages a day from people asking me you know I heard on the forums that they study that if I go with a and B I'm gonna spend about 50 dollars more per year running that AMD versus if I went with the equivalent Intel guys that's what it sounds like to me when people are saying that because you're repeating what you hear on forums and in different videos by people who just may not be nearly as coherent when it comes to the actual energy argument when it comes to these CPUs I listen here if you want to buy something for energy consumption and save money then you're going to be looking at something like an APU because you're not going to even have a graphics card in there which is going to save you a ton of energy less tumors and you could a cure cancer at the same time think about it it's huge okay guys I hope this has helped you at least take one invalid argument and just ignore it when you hear it if you see someone using the argument of well AMD uses so much more energy than Intel you're going to pay for it on your energy bill link them to this video and hole fully it will open their eyes if they're not then just take it for the fanboy that they are so guys has been Jayce two cents really hoping to piss off those people who truly think that the energy bill is a valid argument to be an Intel fanboy so there it is see you in my next video