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I promise you guys I was going to do more affordable type of videos this isn't a review but more or less kind of like a flashback in I'm asking myself especially when I'm talking about with all the new Intel stuff and all the new Rises and stuff that's fine for people who have pretty big budgets but what about people that don't have a lot of spend well guess what the entry-level market is still dominated by AMD FX based CPUs so FX still worth it I know let's find out sick and tired of all the RGB grades well don't worry because the EVGA z2 70 class of 5k is full of all the things that matter like Intel octane memory ready you to nvme SSD support 11 phase PWM for stable overclocking and a sleek monochromatic design that is perfect for any bill learn more by visiting EVGA com if you've been following the channel for a while this system might look familiar it's actually the system I built my dad a couple of years back it's featuring an FX 8320 now admittedly you can get better CPUs today but this is an FX 8320 you give 8350 or even 83-70 with your incremental slight improvements over this one here both in terms of efficiency and performance and they're all about the same price right now on Amazon at the time of making this video it's $129 for an 80 350 this one's like 124 and at prices actually come up a little bit because when I first started looking at these when I did my ultra budget gaming stuff last year I could actually get in 8320 for about 90 bucks so they came up a little bit here anyway we've got 16 gigabytes of ballistics ddr3 running I believe 1866 we've got a hyper 212 Evo on there the motherboard isn't asrock 970 fatality we've got a v6 50 from Coolermaster in here for a power and then we are running my Ignite SSD we've got a one terabyte Toshiba Mass Storage in there nothing too crazy but graphics card wise I actually put my 10 70 founders Edition card in there and that's where I found myself being a little bit conflicted as I can what graphics card will be put in there so I put a slower GPU in there like some like a 950 or 960 then it's really going to have a lot less impact on overall performance because the CPU will probably have no problems keeping up with that but what if you have an FX based system like this and you want to bump up your graphics card to give yourself a better gaming experience while you're doing yourself a disservice and it's FX still worth it that's the whole reason why we're here today I do have this overclock to 4.5 gigahertz so I want to go and put that out there I'm trying to improve the IPC a little bit or instructions per clock because that's honestly where FX is going to be lacking but let's do this it's going to start off with some Cinebench here because I've got my rising scores on here from when I first did the rise and testing we can see how it compares so I've got a 1691 in the 1800 X and then all the way up to an 1805 with the overclocked squeeze my needs together on that one side MP so like I had to pee but you know if you squeeze out a part we need to pee that happens ok at 4.5 gigahertz our 8320 is giving us a 712 square head it's actually better than like a 4690k although the IPC's are way better on the 4690k I digress there you go we're getting roughly what less than half of what an 1800 X is but then again we're talking at $500 CPU versus 130 dollar CPU so as what I did I just overclocked our gtx 1070 plus 75 on the core max voltage max power limit max temp allowance plus 400 on the memory because I want to really kind of I want to push this FX CPU that's a little point of this here I've also got fraps up so we can keep an eye on what's happening in the corner and here we are we're going to start off here with GTA 5 and all of our settings look at the default it's very high we're hoping to stay above 60 I mean right that's kind of what we want to see because you drop down to the 50s right there it could be worse this guy owes me money so what happens when you owe me money and you don't pay oh this guy owes me money to come here so maybe you get a card right oh that was bad for your health all right so if we hop on a car here what is FPS like guys we're moving quickly so we can quickly drop down into the 40s right here you know for 40s though it's actually not that bad what do you think Nick oh it's a smooth 40 if that makes sense right it's not jumping all around all over the place I would like a higher FPS than 53 or 48 and if we look at the chart right when I do my GTA 5 testing with the 1070 founders Edition when it first came out we were certainly getting higher and this so we are indeed bottlenecking even a 1070 slightly now what if we take those settings though and we take it off very high if we do that theoretically we're going to be putting more stress on the CPU I mean normal sounds like what you'd want right normal that's what I call it normal I think it's fair to say that if you're running an FX CPU six years after it was made you're probably not into very high range and initially it doesn't really look that much different I mean maybe things are not quite as crisp like over here all right texture settings are a little lower but look at what the average FPS did though came up about 10 yeah so the FPS is still roughly the same okay maybe it's a little higher right it drops down about 50 150 so I figured since we're just hammering the CPU right now with games that had huge worlds to render why do we go ahead and go move on over here to some Ghost Recon wildlands so it defaulted everything to very high and I think that's because of the the GPU that's actually in there because it's got it sees a 1070 it wants to go very high on everything but I don't think it's taking the CPU into a to account at all so we're gonna do is I'm going to take this preset I'm gonna go back down to high okay so we're sitting right around 55 or if I turn oh you see that C went down in the 30s right there this is just and the whole system just shut off uh so what how much irony would there be if this is the second epic system I killed oh my god I don't smell any magic smoke that was me turning the switch Megan oh okay what do you think and keep going at this breaks I owe my sister a new computer this is my sister's computer now before I gave it to ride to clean it off them like I'm as I do the video it also could have been overheating because I loved it a lot what overheat yeah it also could be overheating so here's the thing though like usually if the system overheats like that it'll just turn right back on when you push the power most motherboards today are good enough to know like if you pull too much current and it shut off for that reason like it'll warn you when it pops back up and it's doing its post like hey an overcurrent situation was detected they'll usually tell you that but anyway right here in heaven though you can see we're getting some pretty good frames all right we got a 107 106 going here this is 8x MSAA right now CPU is currently at 51 beyond the idle or on the package just one of the irony be if I killed to FX systems in the attempt of showing that they're still worth it Casey says AMD Healy for service time last if his name fingers crossed Mary cut myself before we even started this video I should have told me how things were going to go more blood was needed I'm okay if something goes bad with PSU and like pops the 1070 I'm not okay with it popping at 1080p I even though it's just a Founders card it's still a 1080 TI in the pretty it's pretty the Internet's going to be so triggered right now he said it's only in founders edition okay what are the temps right now well it's loading the game 55 C okay oh gee I hope you guys can see the FPS in the corner though it's it's fluctuating all over the place it's anywhere between 50s and 60s yeah see it's it's hovering at about 59 C right here so far which is well within reason I think I can snipe someone from here my neighbors I'm pretty bad Oh what was that I think I him in the knee but still it counts okay I see if I can do this again is one oh what's that - four - so unlearn there's nine ah let it go like over both buildings would you have killed them Oh it did it again maybe this isn't like my slim 19 skills to see it won't turn back on what we have experienced right here is some sort of a power situation situation so if I turn off the power supply right now and I try and turn it on we're going to drain those caps turn it back on see all right so I just did a little checking online to make sure I wasn't crazy and it looks like the FX 8320 will start to thermal Prada lat 7 DC now we're not hitting 70 C and we're shutting down so I'm starting to think that this might just be something to do with the PSU or something I don't believe there's any sort of short in the system and I built it so that actually doesn't mean much we're going to do some doom right now because here's the thing we just tested two games that clearly bring the FX to its knees and one of them is making the damn thing turn off but what about something like do with the Vulkan API which is very good with lower end hardware that's what it's all designed for especially the x12 OpenGL is alright but Vulcan it's kind of like next-level shit when it comes to being able to run it on lower end hardware so what is it like okay a gtx 1070 in doom ultra settings 1080p look at that FPS within the corner like if you if this is the only game you want to play yeah I think you're fine what do you think I never going to shut off on here get to an area where they spawn these will set up because our Knights I'm just wandering you're wandering go so we've decided it's time for us to test out the power supply so that's what we're doing right now maybe my theory about this being a power supply issue isn't confirmed and if it is guess what I'm going to get a new power supply from coolermaster because that one that I've got has like a five-year warranty on it five years on it and we bought that bought that as you can see only they find us with cable management here at JCCC sense also to having it wired this way to would rule out any possibility of any sort of short in the system I smell big we're anywhere near the temperature limits quite honestly we were keeping an eye on the package we're watching our package very carefully can you hear me in there yeah FPS is roughly the same as it always was I get to go back and try sniping again fpso still in the 50s 63 removing this isn't bad all the motion blur is on said that grandma could you play with this though like what you're seeing so far with turning and stuff way too high huh damn it I hate when you're right you know what I'm much better at something else here are you ready oh really long here really I really can't snipe can I so bad that's scary I thought someone was Hawking in the game we really could honk it's you may drop down to about 51 but only for a moment like the minimum seem to be pretty decent look at that FPS right there and you want me to go to where those bad guys that's where we are right now turn up the bar near the game those without field three so I expect it to obviously do a very good job because this is what this was current game at the time oh yeah look at that BS in the corner we're doing all right well over a hundred oh my god so not using this mouse that's my excuse I was weird the way it turned black oh I got revived they don't do that in battlefield 4 I don't know why it's doing that though like every time I die it turns black dude's got revived again yeah the FPS here is doing fantastic let me pull up a noob noob rifle pro/5 you get revived yep three time yay what was a trade alright so obviously you can play games on FX you can play games on a potato if you're willing to play it only a couple of FPS FX is definitely showing its age though so it's a hard sell for me to say yeah go out and buy an FX system if you absolutely want to get into gaming because I feel like it's very minimum you would want to run one of the eight core CPUs like a 80 328 350 83-70 or whatever and there's nowhere to go there's an upgrade path that's still ddr3 and the IPC on it is terrible instructions per clock are terrible which is why rise them with such a huge improvement now if you absolutely have to go out and buy something today to play games you can't wait any longer you can't wait for the potential uprising 3 coming out at the same price point that B is currently are sitting at when you're going to destroy these in terms of performance then I guess it's definitely still worth it if you already have the system stick with it a little bit longer you can live on this little bit longer until rise and three comes out maybe pricing will improve all across the board as competition is definitely heating up in the space between Intel and AMD but there's that guys the weirdness that you saw blame it on the power supply and the fact that we're on a clone drive from Intel system so I would expect some weirdness to happen but yeah FPS is decent especially in some of the older games and it seemed to handle the 1070 okay of course it was bottleneck a little bit but would you expect would you expect to the six-year-old see yeah anyway guys time to go thanks for watching hope this videos answers from your questions I'm asked this all the time about FX and if it's still worth it here's my response see in the next one