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Build Vlog Part 2 - Answering some "Why?" Questions

2014-07-06
hey guys what's up J here I'm back with part 2 of project skunk works actually just finished up Tech Talk a little bit ago watched a movie with the wife and the kid and I can't go any farther with this build until I start tearing things out of the nine hundred d but I don't want the nine hundred D to be down in the mean time so what I'm going to be doing is pulling out the water-cooling stuff and putting in some air cooling stuff and then I'm going to be taking one of these graphics cards up here probably just the 760 in the mean time and sticking that in there and one of the things that I'm regularly asked is how do you get the fluid out of your system well my way is kind of crude I'm not using any valves in this build like I was in red mist but if you take a look down here you can kind of see I've got this long fitting right here with this extension on it I basically just lay this case upside down so all the air will travel to the highest point in the loop which will be that point and then I unscrew the fitting slowly the air will basically be resting right here again the case will be kind of upside down and then I just screw in this hose with this fitting which I then just stick that and in the bottle so it's not the best way of bleeding your system but it does give me at least something that I can do so tonight's plan before you move on to some more the build tomorrow is we're going to pull out the graphics cards we're going to pull out the pumps that are down there you can't really see them and we're going to pull out the radiators so let's go ahead and get started so you can see I had the case laying on its back right now pretty much all of the air has left the reservoir well most of it anyway you can kind of see the long bubble there most of the air is going to be sitting up here however they're still going to be some leakage when I undo this little fitting cap right here so I'm going to go ahead and put some paper towels around here and then we'll open it up and see if we can't get to our fitting attached right there for bleeding and then once it's on there I just stand it back up and everything will basically piss right on out of there all right we go perfect I don't even think we lost a drop of coolant on there see yep now all we do is go ahead and thread this bad boy in there that will be good to go now for the least amount of like leakage you want to go ahead and stick the hose in the hole prior to well you know go ahead and give you guys a little physics lesson here you may or may not realize nothing is actually coming out of here the reason for that is we have a sealed reservoir up top so before anything can come out into the fill or the bottle here you have to allow air in fluid can't actually leave until we allow air in so that's why I actually have that fitting right up there on the top so the moment I release that little cap everything will pretty much come rushing out so that's how I believe my systems and there we go cap out and now my computer is basically taking a leak now we're gonna have to tilt it around a bit to get all the fluid out of there but there you go there's J's a drain lesson how to how to drain your tube yeah all right there it is we're completely bled there's the empty system who's coming apart that's okay because that one's going to be way cooler I think what kind of sucks most about doing these types of system swaps is there's just a very particular order that they have to happen in I have to take things out of this system at a certain order and move them over there in a certain order so it gets a little bit hectic hectic especially when I don't want to be down without the system for very long so what I'm gonna do next if I guys you see the camera here there we go is I'm going to pull up the graphics Bard's pull off the CPU block and get an air cooler on there and pull out the radiators and the pumps the pumps are down in there not sure you can even see those but they're down on the bottom there and we're gonna get those cleaned up because these fans and this I'm gonna use the top four eighty actually it's the newest radiator these fans are really filthy I've got to switch out the fan rings I want to pull out the extension cables and then pretty much I think that might be as far as we get tonight maybe I'll get the graphics card to put in the other motherboard and we'll go from there maybe get the crystal link I guess we'll call it a crystal link but it's just the acrylic tubing between the graphics cards we'll get that ready to go with the Primo chill fittings so let's go and get that done I guess enough talking come on J stop talking do some work would ya well the graphics cards are out and the top 480 radiators out certainly really empty inside this thing I haven't seen it this empty in a long time and the CPU block is off we got our sexy lucho customs cables out I haven't really got a chance to show the basement of this setup here so these are the two alpha cooled e5 pumps right here variable speed pumps and they are running in series at least in this setup they were now I anticipated doing a dual loop setup at some point that's why I got two pumps so now we'll be doing a dual loop obviously in the new build so one pump per loop but yeah this is how I had it set up down there there's the radiator there's the power supply and then there are the pumps right there so all I had to do was bring down this back panel and then I could adjust the speeds if I needed to not too shabby now you guys were probably wondering how I did the series pumps I basically took two alpha cool 90s and then they're hardline nickel-plated fitting right here that you would pretty much use in between GPUs in fact they're the same thing I use in between these GPUs and then they were just sitting between the pumps right there and in fact these can seriously just pull right on out there just pressure fit no rings now somebody in tech talk tonight was asking quite furiously how you can attach a reservoir what now drilling well you can see the some of the residue here from where I had the pumps mounted these pumps were actually as you can see just two-sided tape down in there this is 3m Automotive tape you can get it at Home Depot or whatever it's very very strong and I used it to mount the pumps in the bottom of this case because I knew that I was going to be taking these out at some point so that's how I had these mounted there was no drilling down here for the pumps and since they don't move it's not a problem okay now here's something interesting I just noticed took the top rad out took the fans off to clean the radiator and I want you to take a look at the dirt pattern notice how only one-half of the radiator actually has a buildup of dust compared to the other half for some reason the 900 D was choking the front half of the radiator for air and the back half was getting all of the airflow you can kind of see that I'm trying to get a good angle of it but there you go you can see how only part of the radiator the the front half of it was actually getting air and what's interesting about that is that was the side that was closest to the motherboard tray so I can't quite figure out why that flow characteristic seems to exist in the 900 D but this is just another valid argument for positive air pressure and why it's really important in cases so I just figured I would point that out before I went to bed here because I was a little bit surprised by this I was not expecting this very interesting all right so the entire cooling system has been a yanked out and you can see just how dirty my case really is you guys seem to think I have dirt Mike's system I don't know why it is but look at this this is pretty dirty I mean the fans oh that is gross oh I got to clean all these fans so there's the radiator in the pumps and everything I've got the other 480 rad sitting on the sink had to clean that one out because it was pretty bad but I'm going to clean all these fans I'm going to clean up my mess and then I'm gonna put the stock cooler back on this thing it's only going to need to be together for a couple of days and then that's pretty much it for tonight we're going to clean up this mess not too bad of a mess that I got a little bit of a mess and then we'll we'll get some stuff done tomorrow so until then guys I guess well it'll be only for a second for you but for me I'll see you guys tomorrow good morning everybody I worked in till about 3:30 in the morning prepping my system so I can start building I mean as you see yesterday I took out all of the stuff from the 900 E and you guys were curious as to what this looks like when it's not being water-cooled yeah it's pretty freakin empty so definitely not a air-cooling case if you ask me but then again I really feel like it's a water cooling case either considering it really sucks for airflow there's something I want to talk about here in a previous video that I did actually the previous video where I showed the radiator that was damaged what we're looking at right here is the 480 radiator and you guys might notice there's a lot of copper color showing in there I just want to also point out that alpha cool only puts one very thin coat of powder coat on the radiator to keep it as efficient as possible so that's why you see you know you can see kind of black on one side and copper on the other so I just want to point that out that is by design but this is the 480 versus the size of the 560 yeah as you can see it is quite a bit difference now I weighed this bad boy to see how much it weighs and it came in at five pounds as five pounds of solid copper that's a lot of weight to come crashing down on these end tanks so yeah but anyway I just wanted to kind of show you a size comparison there the 480 versus a 560 the thing is a behemoth so let's go ahead and get the new fan rings on there here's the fan rings I painted in the part one there's some of the fans there go ahead and get the fan rings on there one of the things I did last night that wasn't on camera was I cleaned up all of my fans you know they're lots of dust built up in there and then I also had to and I didn't record this but I've got my loot ro customs extensions in there I had to flip all of these I had to unpin all of these from the connector here and flip them to the opposite sides now you may be wondering why well the reason for that while I am really bright the reason for that is loot row customs they know the way that they normally have to bend to kind of get around to the back of a motherboard tray and since that's a 90 degree fitting it's actually reverse of the way that it normally goes well because they have the longer cables on one side than the other to give it that natural curve it was naturally curving the opposite direction so I just reversed all the pins on those and we're good to go so now we're going to go ahead and get the fans ready get it mounted to the rads get the rads in there and just kind of start fitting things to see how I want things to go so this is the old fan ring and this is the new fan ring you can kind of see the difference in color there the top one is a bit more of like a mustard color the bottom one is definitely more of a bright yellow the reason for that if you look at the old motherboard in there you can see that's clearly not a yellow that is definitely more of a mustard color and now that we're on the topic let's go and talk about this guy real quick now you guys are lots of you have been asking well if you like yellow so much why the heck aren't you using the mPower I'm worried that there would be too much yellow but there's also some other reasons is this is a anny ATX board so it comes all the way to the end of the motherboard tray and the mPower also has green and blue LEDs on it where this just has red LEDs so it came down to function of this motherboard the fact that it can handle three or four-way SLI if I ever want to get crazy and it doesn't have the ugly LEDs on there so I've not tested the overclocking function of this motherboard I'm really putting all of my chips in EVGA on this one that they got their act together with the BIOS so we're just going to see how that one turns out but I wanted to answer why I'm not using the empower motherboard now the empower motherboard is in that system over there doing a good job of giving me a nice solid test bench but we are going with obviously the EVGA in this bad boy for other obvious reasons well maybe they're not so obvious are you guys win the best kick click tah-dah obviously I've got enough fans for push-pull on the 480 yay some people have asked how the lower radiator mounts into the SMA eight well this bad boy pretty much is just a bracket and you can get this for 564 80 360 240 whatever size you want and that just holds in there with these screws and these screws go through these little holes and thread right in there so yeah pretty easy mounting mechanism just going to set this on top of the radiator and then we take our fans and we set these down in there and then we screw them in like that we pinch it in between the red and the fans pretty nifty gas man and the amazingly beautiful miss G's two cents brought me coffee of course this whole entire channel is brought to you by Starbucks actually I bring them lots and lots of money alright so one thing I want to talk about here which also seems to be very controversial constantly it's people saying why am I going with AF 140s on the radiator on the 560 guys they do not make an SP 114 on LED fan with the removable rings I want the fans to match my SP 120 s over there yes I am using SP one 20s on the 480 on the 560 this is my only option if I want matching fans however with the size of these fans and the fin density of this radiator which you can look look you can see right through it even with the fan there there is not going to be any issues with optimum air flow using an airflow fan on it a fpi radiator so if you guys are going to give me a hard time about using these AF fans on this massive radiator uh you need to realize just stop repeating everything you hear on the internet and not talking with first-hand experience because unfortunately you guys are making yourself look bad every time you bring this up decided to take a quick break and just enjoy some de Michi note 804 review hardware connects love those guys push fans installed on the upper 480 red and one of the stickers came off I might as well just take up all the rest of the stickers these don't show anyway but I'm going to be doing something kind of custom with the labels here I don't like Corsairs logos being all over my build so I'm going to be trying to use some of my 3m carbon fiber sticker paper and make circular cutouts to put on top of these fans so that we can hide that Corsair logo we don't want their logo anywhere on here so yeah we'll just know we'll circle back to that but now I've got the lower high I've got the lower rad in there the 560 and I do like the way that the Rings just sort of kind of ghost through like that it looks really really good I like that so you can see that the yellow is really starting to come together I have no idea what I'm gonna do next honestly I'm just got a mess here and we're going to figure out what's next heat tools ugly carpet oh and there's the ek 480 rad had to use the hardware from that one because all of the hardware that came with my optical rads with copper and unfortunately copper just does not look good with this build so you can see I used the black screws from the ek rad right there just have that ek red left over from red mist in fact that buyer still needs to decide what he wants to do with that rad because it's just sitting here well you know I was just thinking to myself man so far I haven't run into any issues pretty simple build so far and of course I jinxed myself now this may seem hard to believe guys but here is the thickness with push-pull on the next t45 push-pull on an XT 45 does not fit in this case let's see if you can actually see that right there probably not it is actually hitting on the memory modules right there as well as the CPU power let me get the brightness brighter so you can see right there it's hitting on the CPU power and it's hitting on the memory modules so unfortunately we're not going to be able to do push-pull with the fans on the inside now I would have loved to have just said well so you guys may be thinking ok fine put the red up against the top at the fans on the bottom and put the other fans on the top like this exhausting hair well I would do that however I went with the standard thickness top which does not as you can see it does not fit so had I gotten the thicker top piece I would have been able to do push-pull like this but you know what redness didn't have push-pull and it wasn't an issue so I think we'll be okay it's just kind of sad now that I'm at four SP 120 sitting there doing absolutely nothing maybe I'll you know I'll get a thicker top later and put the fans up here oh well that's a little disappointing snag number one no push pull on this bad boy but again low FBI only eight FBI in this radiator so these fans even while slowed down move plenty of air through the rads in fact I didn't do push pull on that thing so I don't technically need it here either I just kind of wanted to do it because I had the fans know I'm sad all right so there's the top red like I said no push pull but man the yellow is really starting to come in on this build this is going to look really fantastic you can see I got the top EPS power going up there the 24 pin and you can see that the wiring is going to be very very very tidy on this build so I gotta decide I'm gonna do the reservoirs now that always seems to be the thing that hangs me up on these builds is how I want to do the reservoirs but I'm pretty sure it's just going to be boring mounted to the back wall nothing custom but that you can really see I was worried about the yellow in the gunmetal but the more I put in there and the more that the yellow is just sort of accent it looks really good now again that's why I didn't put the end power in there I think it would have been a little bit over powering on the yellow if you know what I'm saying that there was definitely an intended pun in there and here's what it looks like without the cover on the bottom one of the things that kind of sucks though is you can see that as if it goes in focus here hit this manual focus crap you can see that they have this gap right here and that the whole bracket I'm using the lowest holes on here and the reason for that is when I drilled the pass-through and the 90 degree fitting that comes through the floor here for the graphics cards it collides with the radiator if it's up any higher I learned that with red miss I would love for this to be centered but I'm not going to be able to because of the 90 degree fitting on there but it's starting to come together now I don't have a whole lot left to do today I'm gonna get the graphics cards on there and then what's going to be the next step pretty much is gonna yeah obviously get all the water cooling plumbed up and then I'll shoot I guess she'll be pretty much done well it sounds like it's right around the corner but there's actually a lot left to do so actually what I'm going to do next is I'm going to make the pass-through right here it's got this grommet cover if you was just a hard cover there and instead of running the wires down through here like I did for red mist I'm going to just drill a hole in this and run them through there now the way you get a nice perfectly centered hole is you take your you take your punch right here this is just an awl like a punch at spring-loaded one you can see I already put the hole in there but you find Center you take your awl and find the hole oh find the hole sorry in my life push it down spring load pops a hole in there you take your pilot bit you drill a small hole in there and then you take a Unibet and then you make the hole the size you need it to be it just needs to be big enough for the three pin fan connectors to fit through so let's go ahead and get that out of the way alright there's our hole I even countersunk it a little bit so it looks bitter and should be the right sides go ahead and try it out so all three fans are just running through there right now and you know you can be able to really notice that once the reservoirs and stuff are in there so it's a lot easier for me to wire those up that way then running them all the way down to the bottom like I did red mist I learned a lot of things with red mist though since I'm working with the same case and I'm kind of this is almost like red mist 2.0 if you will but yeah so we're starting to wrap wrap it up for the day we'll see what else we get done here and then we'll we'll call it a day okay i've got the two gtx 780 s that are hacked and overclocked and bios over bolted and all that crap in there but i still have to do the connections between them and then all of this has to come back out actually the motherboard tray and and all that because I still have to mark down here where I need to drill the holes and decide exactly where I'm going to be drilling the holes and decide how I'm going to be doing this I'm thinking I'm going to do in and out it's going to be parallel loop it's going to go in pass through go through there and then back out so I think I'm gonna have to go in and out right here on the bottom rather than how I did read myths where I had that one tube that went along the bottom I think I'm going to do it that way but all I'm gonna do for right now let's get the link in the middle ready to go get those acrylic tubes cut to length and then I think that's where we're going to stop for today all right we're wrapping it up here I just want to show you one last tip since people always ask me what I'm doing these pass through fittings like this I go into this floor how do I know where to drill we can say I've already got one hole marked the question people ask is how do you know where to drill because you know it could be slightly off or whatever well this is the method that I use I take my iPhone I turn on the flashlight and I make sure that the top port plug is open and that the where's the focus Jesus vlogging with a DSLR Cal sucks alright so I make sure that it's open all the way through take my flashlight and I shine it in the hole on the top and as you can see down on the floor I get all these different rings of things happening but if you focus the camera better you can see that there's going to be one point where they all pretty much line up perfectly which is right there so you make sure that it lines up perfectly all around same amount of gap there if you have the tube in between it gives us a nice shimmer effect which gives you even better way of telling if it's centered once you find where its center you take your awl or your punch and you will going to be loud cover your ears here's your hole punch and there are your marks to take once again your pilot bit drill the pilot take your unibit drill it and there you go it'll be perfectly lined up with the entire unit so there you go guys that was part 2 of Jays project skunk works I want to get farther today but actually got quite a bit done I spent a few hours on it today but a lot of time just kind of looking at brainstorming as you guys know when I do this build I talk about always planning and prepping and thinking three four or five times about it measuring three four or five times and then doing the work once so that's what I recommend so I'm going on out here guys it is fourth of July we're going to go see some fireworks and stuff tonight and from then we're going to go ahead and see if we can't finish this build up this weekend and as always guys I will see you in the next one
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