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some of the late to the party as usual especially when it comes to Intel's new launches the 79 60 X and 79 80 X II well you know I think it's funny about that naming convention first of all as the X always meant extreme but then they called all of their $2.99 CPUs X but they're not all extreme so they put the e in there so that's extreme edition whatever I digress we're gonna be taking a look at a little bit of that today but this is not a full review of that CPU and I wanna make that first and foremost clear because I've been working on other projects I'm late on that but I want to see what happens here if I install a 79 80 X II into my test bench here which has what looks like is going to be an under sized power supply is currently running one of the gigabyte 800 watt power supplies and when if you couple that with something like a single GTX 1080 which when overclocked can take about 300 watts of its own power leaving about 500 max output capability what happens now when I leave only 500 Watts left to the CPU when we've seen that when you start to overclock it it pulls more than that the new cooler master master set 120 features perky RGB lighting control exclusive hybrid switches with the look and feel of mechanical keys down in professional-grade keyboards and a precision gaming mouse with durable Omron switches and all at an affordable price get your click fixed by following the link down below Intel it's been a really strange year for Intel in fact I don't find this platform to be the most compelling it's obvious it means nothing to gamers right this is not a a gamers platform by any stretch of the imagination this is a content creator slash multitaskers wet dream when it comes to this many threads in fact this is giving us xeon level of performance with the number of cores and number of threads but we can actually overclock it and that seems to be where the problem really is coming from where once you start to overclock this thing the power of draw just goes through the roof the deluxe edition right here although decent I'm not gonna take any chances because I don't want a fire in today's video but we're gonna be using the rampage extreme motherboard because of its for power delivery which is exactly how it was communicated to me this is not the most compelling launch this unit to me I'm actually more interested in the 8th gen CPU stuff because this is actually coming out a little bit later very soon so this is the Z 370 next Nick thinks if it was called the 370z board that I would have been a little bit more excited about this but I'm actually excited about this because we are getting mainstream CPUs that have six cores and twelve threads like 8700 K which is in this box somewhere I think this guy got teeny tiny it is and yet they're six cores and twelve threads in there but I'm concerned because I don't want to have to rewire this thing for the power supply examine if you guys can see it look underneath here like oh nice and tidy these wires are how everything is all zip tied and and run out of it's run out of sight but now I have to redo all of this that's going to be a pain in the foot it's almost like all of the rest in peace' call the fire department AMD jokes have made their way over to Intel there we go the problem was this hole was like the exact same diameter of these little retention this so we got to put that away soon the rampage stuff has always just been nice I'm glad they got away away from all the red in fact if we're gonna talk about power requirements I've heard that the dual eight pin is like pretty much required the rampage board doesn't even have dual eight pins there's an eight pin and a four pin so yeah this might get interesting really quickly this is this is where I kind of wish I had a monoblock for this motherboard I don't think there's gonna be one for a little while I may take some time for them to make them but this is we're keeping the vrm is nice and cool too it's going to be a problem because I mean the videos that have been making their way out regarding this have all said to the power delivery cables get pretty toasty got ice the perfect for alcohol good as new nice and shiny those are the doctor's office so the sockets gonna look identical to every other one see this is the one that says 2.6 so this is indeed the right one you labeled it correctly sir kudos no I'm looking forward to that I'm looking forward to checking out the new Maximus that you're gonna get with the Z 370 pretty sure that that's gonna be a cool motherboard worth taking a look at not to mention the Maximus boards right they had the extreme on the last one which included the built-in water block this started look like an ASA sponsored video it's not them I'll never nurse I'll never get past the point where I care about the way wires look even on things like test benches where they shouldn't care about being all pretty I care did you hear that North Korea is firing no no okay it might be better name I love the edge lighting how many motherboards though because we have that on thread refer also and that's what's gonna give us some of our lighting I'm gonna update the BIOS and then I'll come back with the actual testing okay so we got a couple things set up here ready to go this is my watt meter man this thing is old ugly and baiji anyway I don't right now and you guys are probably not gonna be able to see this very well the contrast is very poor but we sit anywhere between the high 90s to the low 100's about 110 I think I saw 117 for a second at idle but this is just the system at idle all stock speeds I've also got real temp running right here hopefully the glare is not too bad but I've got real temp running right here it's not showing all the cores real temp has not been updated yet to actually be able to work with this CPU but at least it gives us sort of an idea of what the core temperatures are looking like there's also a tiny little readout right here in an OLED display on the motherboard itself that's giving us and don't even bother trying to focus on that nikinoo see if it's gonna give us an idea of what the package temperature is interestingly enough though I downloaded a Seuss's own software which is our tuning utility to try and see what's happening here with with temperatures and stuff and you can see it's not showing like it's not really working very well right max core frequencies zero process of cache frequency zero active core count zero package temperature zero so even though this is a motherboard that supports this particular CPU it doesn't look like this software isn't updated yet so that's why I'm using real temp and we've got our audio used to cheer just anybody around 100 watts 98 104 98 105 100 103 so not too bad and then we also have a GTX 10 atti Strix Edition here that is sitting again at stock speeds so let's go and get our base test out of the way let's go ahead and do I'm gonna do a Cinebench run I'm curious as to what the cinnamon score is and how - scoring compared to everyone else's so we'll just run the CPU test and our load right now is going up to 291 to 88 to 92 87 to 94 to 96 looks like 296 with our max draw from the wall where that's wall power that's everything not just a CPU but that's the whole system right here plugged into this power meter but we got a score of 3364 it seems to be pretty in line with what everyone else is experiencing so going to save that score looks like our max temperature has reached about 40 39 44 or 42 43 and 39 and I looked at the core socket while it was running and it said 44 on the socket so temperature is at least under water here are our pretty good so we're going to try a CPU test here on Blender this is the BMW test that everyone pretty much uses it's kind of the standard and we're just gonna go ahead and click render here all right blenders finishing up we're still sitting right around 280 between 277 to 281 watts on this so yeah it didn't draw more overtime as it got a little warmer in fact package is sitting at 36 C and if we look at real temp our max temps again 42 41 45 45 so you can see we're in the mid to low 40s wish I could see all 16 cores but again can't you get the idea though I'd also rendered that in 2 minutes and 27 seconds so we can compare that when we overclocked this I'm gonna see what happens with some gaming now or at least something like 3d mark which is a GPU stress test I'd I expect the wattage to be higher because I'm running a 1080i custom piece of II is a strict card that's got some overclocking applied so it's gonna go to about 2000 I'm expecting it to probably go up to about 400 watts on the meter if I have to guesstimate between the low load the CPU is gonna see but the high load on the GPU I'm expecting about 400 watts so I guess we'll see if my predictions are right or not and we are at 413 406 414 410 so I'm gonna say about 415 wattage from the wall once again so actually saw 431 Watts peak the amount of power draw from the wall in a test like that but here's a CPU test it's going up to 253 to 45 to 75 so it's definitely all over the place but no more than we were seeing with something like Cinebench or even blender so think we have a pretty good idea of how much the CPU is drawing at stock which is actually not too bad if you think about it remember that's that's a total system power there let's see our graphics core at ten thousand four zero ten thousand forty two and our CPU score ten thousand sixty six it's been a long time since I've actually seen a CPU score exceed a GPU score but hey that works for me alright you know it's time to do now it's time to overclock so I've been talking to a seduced about this because I was concerned about the fact that we have an 8-pin plus a four pin power on this and I've seen a lot of reports people saying dual eight pin is a requirement if you're gonna overclock this otherwise you were going to just set your house ablaze but Asus has assured me that they're BRM design is perfectly fine with the eight pin plus the four pin now I don't have a I don't have the tools or the equipment to verify that but I'm gonna take their word for it and if this goes up in smoke then I'm assuming that they'll stand by their product and replace whatever goes bad and this is not an overclocking tutorial so this is just gonna be a quick and dirty because I want to see what we get here with I'm just curious as to what we can actually choose we're gonna go manual this little OLED display is the best thing that anyone's ever done for motherboards a q-code thing is cool but you have to always have to look up the numbers but now it tells you like on the little display exactly what it's doing so it looks like we might get a good food on 4.5 let's wait for everything finish loading but looks like our Idol has gone up from 90 watts to approximately about 178 Watts so you can see we've gone up significantly just by changing that and we're not even at load so we are almost at load wattage well not almost I mean we're about a hundred watts shy of load at idle now but it's verified we actually so we are four point four seven gigahertz on all 16 cores so all 36 threads are getting that kind of power let's bring up our real temp again idle temp still seemed pretty good if this is if this is accurately reporting remember this needs to be updated but I don't I'm cool with it sitting in the high 20s at idle we're pulling now 561 Watts from the wall so that's double and you hear the fans just immediately ramped up and our temperatures member had they were at the mid 40s mid to low 40s well now it looks like we went to the upper 60s to the upper 70s depending on the court but leave the difference in score though 4427 versus the 3364 so it looks like at least your performance is scaling with the power draw that's scary though like my watt meter is getting kind of what I wonder if I have a pinch it because 4.5 is one of those that like they were like a good chip will hit 4.5 all right blender time okay here we go or popper tripper or Papa true pop eight triple a breaker that's not offensive it's right around 580 watts but look how much faster that's going oh my god there were last time about 220 or two minutes 27 seconds we're pulling right around 585 watts from the wall member this is an 800 watt power supply so actually not as bad as I was thinking we're sitting at 71 see on the package so we have gone up approximately 30 see about 30 see maybe one idea that the water temp increasing look at the condensation inside the reservoir there you see how we're starting to get some fogging so the water temp is definitely increasing but the air coming through the rad actually isn't all that one not quite 600 up there 603 605 607 so it's going good 610 so we saw a peak of 620 watts but an average of right around 585 but we came down from 2 minutes 27 seconds in blender till one minute 44 seconds with just a couple of clicks in the BIOS so average usage right now just while the GPU is doing it saying came up to about 500 watts I'm seeing what I saw 505 515 but now it's down to like 493 495 498 so we came about a hundred watts just in gaming right just under a gaming stress test like this so the CPU test right now is drawing only 400 watts 434 447 right so obviously it's not as stressful as something like blender or Cinebench which is expected but look at our CPU score came out from 10,000 what 100 to twelve thousand five hundred and thirty-four and our graphic score came up a few points as well about a hundred points does that mean our 79 80 X E is bottlenecking they actually recommend it to have a fan blowing oh that's warm yeah before we do this I think we need to plug a fan in and point it at the BRM I forgot to do that Asus was like yeah we recommend if you're gonna overclock you have air flow in the V RMS and I'm water-cooled so clear there's no fans their voltage over em I said to one point two seven five I'm just gonna leave it there we don't really want to leave it there because we don't want it pumping that voltage when it's at idle but for the sake of testing we'll just do that i'ma grab a fan tada it's literally just leaning there if I hope it doesn't ramp up too much and like mess things up alright so so at one point 275 temps are sitting still right around where they were before man is that thing like weekly rate but we saw 85 88 88 beds that's not that's not gonna cut it look at the score look at that 4440 Q that's too warm though right up 91 see right there all right I'm gonna dial VIN I'm gonna dial in the overclocks and we'll come back so I reduced the wattage down to 1.25 and I increase the quartet or the core clock up to 4.7 I'm curious if we'll even boot may I have finally won the lottery four point seven now if you guys are curious as to why four point seven would be a big even four point five is a big deal maybe this is a two point six gigahertz chip I'm sure it's got 4.4 ABX right that's only one or two cores at the most I'm running all cores overclocked right now four point seven bigger Hertz let's see and I reduced the voltage down to one point two five let's see if this if this actually holds up man that ramps up fast still getting hot though eighty eight eighty nine four thousand six hundred and eleven the fact that I've reduced the voltage and increased the clock and it still at least past that like a couple seconds to do this test let's just see how far we can go this is crazy I might have actually won a lottery for once been a long time since I've had like a good overclocking chip like my chips have always just been like middle of the road middle of the river I've Brian but you guys have kind of seen a little bit he's forcing the ICA forcing me he's he is being the devil's advocate on my shoulder st. go for five gigs go for five gigs you can do it go for five gigs burn it down and we actually so we got four point eight which was good we got four point nine at the lesser voltage and cinnamons crashed but the system didn't hard-luck so what I'm gonna do now is I believe it takes approximately four or five seconds for Senate bench to do its test I just want to see if I can get five gigs in Cinebench that's all I care about now for 5.18 way why did it I put 50 as a multiplier why we have five point one don't question it I don't think it's gonna run it can't possibly it can't possibly survive Cinebench Oh No but again it's not a hard look yeah if I can get that down to five where I want it we'll be okay so even playing around this now for the last couple of it about an hour and a half or so trying to get five gigs we couldn't get it I got four point nine to run stable once but I can't get it back so I'm thinking I actually degraded the CPU down slightly in just the amount of testing in that voltage we were sending out at a 264 here's a crash dummy so 4.8 right now we're in a 1.3 2 volts which is highly unreconstructed I kind of tune around 1.2 75 and work it down from there because we're at the limits of water as you could obviously see I want to see what the power draw was in the worst case scenario so we're sitting at 190 Watts right now idle again total system power if I hit run on this we spike up to seven thirty seven seven forty four seven forty fifty three so 7:53 is where we went and we came down slightly on the score again four thousand six hundred sixty-seven so negligible difference but again probably because throttling see all these cores are exceeding 80 that one-city 90 that one-city 97 again if I could see all 16 of them I think we'd see more of them or throttling which is to be expected because that meant that much voltage in this speed is already approaching where we need exotic cooling just because they might have focused heat that's in there remember the die didn't get bigger it's not like thread ripper where they got this huge die it's still in a very small package ladies and so what it'll happen there is you'll get much more focused heat now what about something like a 264 right so a 264 is a stress test and it stressed this stuff like system memory CPU cache or FPU so I'm gonna test just the CPU though so I'm gonna take off the CPU data cache promise to take off the memory we'll just do cache Fu and CPU and see it already detected that there was overheating that's because this was actually running in the background when I did the Cinebench so I'm going to clear all this and I'm just curious once again what our temperatures are going to do under the test as well as our voltage so 779 was where it started 695 658 so it's definitely all over the place but as you can see we are also thermal throttling slightly and look some these cores 105 105 so yeah we have definitely exceeded our cooling so I died of it back down to 4.5 and just to kind of show you once again this is what you get I also pulled the voltage all the way back to 1.25 so hopefully it doesn't crash I also brought the memory back up to 20 666 probably could get 29 33 out of it but whatever 29:19 whatever it is you got yeah as I'm saying but if we compare now we are getting 599 Watts pulled from the wall and you can see our temperatures are much more acceptable our score came down of course 4300 86 so we lost about 300 points just under 300 points but you know you're gonna lose a whole lot more points it can blow up your chip simply because he gave too much voltages and stuff so anyway that's been my two cents about this chip cuz it really was I was really most concerned with power draw temperatures and what overclocking was like on this because we had seen rumors that it could be up to one whole kilowatt or thousand watts pulled from the wall when overclocking this especially on lnto I think the guys that hit six gigahertz were pulling a thousand watts and we saw that by just going from 1.25 to 1.3 to our voltage or our wydad went from roughly 600 watts to 750 just that little bit yeah it's pretty exponential but yeah 4.5 on this chip you could run this everyday and not have any sort of problems with that said I'm gonna go guys thanks for watching as always I'll see you in the next one